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The stuff you listed was stolen too so, it's not all I've been saying.
Here's the original commitment...
You decide what he meant.
The stuff you listed was stolen too so, it's not all I've been saying.
One has nothing to do with the other.
He'll talk to the leaders of other nations like Reagan spoke to the leaders of the Soviet Union.
Were you against that?
Wow. These Obama cultists ARE tenacious. I block them, and yet there they are, on my screen!
I've never thought much of the allegations that he's a closet Moslem. I don't even care if he smokes, really. I'm more concerned about his foreign policy (one of negotiation with Islamic radicals, who don't deserve to be at our table, and won't keep the terms of any treaty anyway) and his domestic agenda (raise taxes to keep everything fair, abortions for everyone, etc.). Those things are the deal-breakers for me.
Quit whining.
You don't have to read my posts.
That's not what he said.
During the debate when asked if he would "be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea?" Obama answers, "I would."
Reagan would have never said anything that stupid. Nor would have the Democrats he invoked; FDR, Truman, or JFK.
You just said we already negotiate with all of them, as we do with groups we branded terrorists like the Sunni insurgents in Iraq, whom we are now paying off.
It's all semantics. We'll negotiate when it's in our interests.
Tell me, is Bush going to stop importing oil from Venezuela now that Chavez' ties to FARC have been substantiated?
i don't think you're stupid. i think you're a manipulater that lies to his flock. lying to people in gods name. god hates that .
Obama Draws Line On Negotiations, Won't Talk To Hamas
Barack Obama - who has said repeatedly that America must meet with its enemies, including the tyrants who lead Iran, North Korea and Cuba - drew the line yesterday in refusing to talk with Hamas.
"They're not heads of state. They don't recognize Israel," Obama told reporters. "You can't negotiate with somebody who doesn't recognize the right of a country to exist."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...t_n_89766.html
And if Edgar and Charlie are so -bent on containing/attacking Iran, why aren't they invading Lebanon, at least bombing them, to suppress the Iran-proxy Hezbollah and to help the pro-Western Lebanese govt?
hmm, no oil in Lebanon?
just as there is...
no oil in Myannar/Burma,
no oil in Zimbabwe,
no oil in Sudan, oops!!, dubya is setup and operating in/around the oil in East Africa.
Are you now admitting he's a flip-flopper?
Do you have a quote of his saying he would meet with Hamas with no preconditions? I haven't seen one.
No, but he let people believe he would?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he wanting to do like president Carter, meet with them with no conditions, thinking he could bring them to peace? He refused to take the position of not meeting with them for sometime until the topic became hot, didn't he? Didn't he also want to speak with everyone over there?
I didn't follow this well. I don't know. I thought that was the case however. I do know he said he would meet with nation leaders without preconditions. I know. Hamas is a group, but they have become a nations controlling group. They currently holds a majority of seats in the Palestinian Authority.
Obama said that if he wins the White House, he would break from the standard practice of refusing to talk to U.S. foes that refuse to meet preconditions. He has said he would be open to meeting with the leaders of countries such as Iran. Hamas is the leading political party in Palestine.
Funny.... I guess he doesn't consider other nations like Iran as states because many of them refuse to acknowledge Israel too."It is not a state and until Hamas clearly recognizes Israel, renounces terrorism and abides by, or believes that the Palestinians should abide by previous agreements ... I don't think conversations with them would be fruitful,"
I think Obama is incapable of thinking clearly on such actions.
No need to go any further then. You have failed to show he has flip flopped on Hamas.
In don't care. That wasn't my purpose. I asked if Bouton's was "admitting he's a flip-flopper?"
Not exactly the same thing. I understand your confusion. If I wanted to call Obama a flip-flopper, I would have had examples first. I can come up with some, but It doesn't matter. I don't want to get into that until September or October.
So where did boutons say Obama would talk to Hamas unconditionally?
Did I say he did? NO! I was asking.
Why are you being an ass?
It's implied when one asks a question like that. It reads like a rhetorical question plain and simple.Why are you asking boutons if he's admitting Obama is a flip-flopper? The only way you could reasonably do that is if you had seen an instance where boutons claimed Obama would meet Hamas without preconditions. Considering we have been talking specifically about Hamas and that boutons posted Obama's stance on meeting with Hamas, differentiating it from what he had previously said about actual nations -- you have all the information you need.Why are you being an ass?
You know, sometimes you are pretty smart. Sometimes you are just a stupid ass. You are now being a combination. Just a smart-ass. I'm done with you. If you want to just argue, find someone else.
It just seemed to be an odd question to ask since everything is right there in the thread.
Maybe so, but I have to wonder...
With you defending Bouton's so much...
So you admit to flip-flopping about being done with me.Maybe so, but I have to wonder...
With you defending Bouton's so much...
Wow. Obamaniacs parsing words! And I thought they were beyond the politics of the past!
Wow. Board Republicans failing to understand the English language! I didn't think they were beyond their stupidity of the past!
LOL...
You got me there. What can I say, I couldn't help myself.
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