The Gasol Trade

[thispego]

this has got the be the most ridiculous post ive seen in any website.

so op you want to put an asterisk if the lakers win because we "stole" gasol? ITS CALLED GOOD GMs. you of all people should know (if you are not only a die hard spurs fan but a basketball fan). SA got manu in the 2nd round, parker in the late 1st round, and landed perhaps the greatest PF in nba history in the ONE season the spurs sucked. oh and talk about asterisk, how many games were played in that 1999 season when you won your first championship? 50? so who deserves the asterisk.

take nothing away from the spurs, i for one AM an objective laker fan and is even more a basketball fan. the lakers have to TAKE the throne from the Spurs to win because the spurs are the champs but stop crying cause we have a good gm

Yeah you have the most amazing GM in the world turning Kwame brown into a 20 and 10, 7foot spaniard

[Mr. Body]

^ so i guess all trade for draft picks are useless.

i guess manu and parker's stats overseas were useless too?

nuff said

You're being an idiot. There's such thing as relative value. You wouldn't trade $200,000 for a Ford Escort claiming to be happy because it's "a car"; not when others are offering Bentleys.

The trade was horribly lopsided and objectively evidence of collusion. Outsider observers were correct in asserting there was, at base, very bad business practices going on with the Memphis side, but given the league's irrational support for the Lakers franchise and Jerry West's existence with the Memphis organization, it's all but proveable something untoward was going on there. It's not like Memphis was getting any sort of replacement for Gasol -- what's the position most at need now? PF and C -- and it's not like they weren't getting much stronger offers from Chicago and elsewhere.

Collusion.

If there are such as basketball gods, LAL should get smacked out of the playoffs on karma alone, but unfortunately Stern and Such have stronger powers. Maybe.

[Mr.Franchize]

From an NBA fans standpoint, Id say it was a robbery trade but that it was a legal one. Salaries matched and the trade was fair. Yeah it's bull Jerry West helped out with accepting fillers/picks/critters for a player like Gasol but it still was legal.

jerry west was not the gm for memphis during the trade genius. and grizzlies got gasols younger brother and future star javaris crit en i feel that in a few years when those player get to their potential people will stop calling this a robbery.

[DazedAndConfused]

If both Gasol and Critter turn out to be huge busts and MEM isn't able to acquire a good free agent with their capspace than I guess we can say this trade was robbery. Until that time, everyone should shut their mouth.

[Mr. Body]

jerry west was not the gm for memphis during the trade genius. and grizzlies got gasols younger brother and future star javaris crit en i feel that in a few years when those player get to their potential people will stop calling this a robbery.

No he wasn't the GM. But where was he the GM? Where does he still have ties? The Lakers didn't make the ing trade with the Idaho Stampede, did they? West wasn't a Celtics star, was he?

Yes, Marc Gasol, who may someday platoon deep on the bench for a rotting Memphis team, may someday in some manner put up 3 ppg in the NBA, maybe. Clearly he's worth a current All-Star. And I on Crittendon's potential. Give me a ing break. This trade was the best Memphis could get? Nope.

Lakers fans are morons.

[Mr. Body]

Until that time, everyone should shut their mouth.

Go build your own basketball board, you ing tool.

[thispego]

If both Gasol and Critter turn out to be huge busts and MEM isn't able to acquire a good free agent with their capspace than I guess we can say this trade was robbery. Until that time, everyone should shut their mouth.

lets call it what it is until it isnt, ok?

[WCFBaby]

Damn, are spurs fans still showing their collective gayness about the Gasol trade? Let it go already. You all sound like bitter es!

[Mr. Body]

If both Gasol and Critter turn out to be huge busts and MEM isn't able to acquire a good free agent with their capspace than I guess we can say this trade was robbery. Until that time, everyone should shut their mouth.

Let's call the Iraq War the biggest success in the history of human successes and Bush the greatest leader of all times until some arbitrary future date when it's clear to DazedAndConfused what's clear to the rest of the freakin' world. That way we can spare this poor child's feelings.

[thispego]

Damn, are spurs fans still showing their collective gayness about the Gasol trade? Let it go already. You all sound like bitter es!

we're fine with it. just want to make sure lakers fans know their franchise cheated.

[Mr. Body]

we're fine with it. just want to make sure lakers fans know their franchise cheated.

This.

Basically it's kind of a shrug. It's American culture nowadays. It's Paris Hilton and Britney Spears on the television instead of real news, it's collusive trades to get the Lakers back on top. What's sad is Lakers fans try really hard to defend it, like Paris fans try really hard to explain what value she has. As long as there's real basketball to be played, and that much isn't ruined, we'll be happy. This starry-eyed lack of substance will always be around.

[WCFBaby]

we're fine with it. just want to make sure lakers fans know their franchise cheated.

LMAO!!!! "cheated" LMAO!!! Please provide details and proof of the cheating. Please....please....please!!!

[Mr. Body]

LMAO!!!! "cheated" LMAO!!! Please provide details and proof of the cheating. Please....please....please!!!

Oh Jesus. Can't you ing read?

[thispego]

LMAO!!!! "cheated" LMAO!!! Please provide details and proof of the cheating. Please....please....please!!!

http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/080201gasol_trade.html

[SnakeBoy]

You Sir, are a whiney little .

I hate having to agree with a Laker fan!

[JamStone]

Wilt Chamberlain for Darrall Imhoff, Jerry Chambers, and Archie Clark.

Kareem Abdul Jabbar for Elmore Smith, Brian Winters, Junior Bridgeman, and Dave Meyers.

Artis Gilmore for Dave Corzine and Mark Olberding.


Lopsided trades for big men happen sometimes. Why is it necessary to about it just because it made another team better?

Should non Spurs fans about David Robinson getting hurt in the 1996-97 season and the Spurs tanking to get the best chance at Tim Duncan? Should the Spurs feel guilty about getting Duncan when they already had David Robinson?

, if a team can be lucky enough to make a great deal or lucky enough to get a HOF caliber center when they already have an a HOF caliber center on the roster, there is nothing to feel guilty about nor ashamed of.

The Gasol trade was lopsided, highway robbery. I don't see the point of trying to make Lakers fans feel guilty about it. If it happened to your favorite team, you'd be happy about it too.

[SRJ]

Our bench is full of players we drafted(Farmar,Sasha,Walton,Turiaf)/signed in free agency (Vlad) or traded for (Ariza). That is one of the biggest strengths to this team is their bench which they have built over the last couple of seasons

And for all of that, Kobe complained and complained and complained.

[JamStone]

His complaints got him Pau Gasol, didn't it?

[turiaf for president]

You're being an idiot. There's such thing as relative value. You wouldn't trade $200,000 for a Ford Escort claiming to be happy because it's "a car"; not when others are offering Bentleys.

The trade was horribly lopsided and objectively evidence of collusion. Outsider observers were correct in asserting there was, at base, very bad business practices going on with the Memphis side, but given the league's irrational support for the Lakers franchise and Jerry West's existence with the Memphis organization, it's all but proveable something untoward was going on there. It's not like Memphis was getting any sort of replacement for Gasol -- what's the position most at need now? PF and C -- and it's not like they weren't getting much stronger offers from Chicago and elsewhere.

Collusion.

If there are such as basketball gods, LAL should get smacked out of the playoffs on karma alone, but unfortunately Stern and Such have stronger powers. Maybe.

that was in response to the comment that draft picks are useless and the euro stats are meaningless.

collusion? yea stern wants the the big markets to be soo good that the knicks have been bottom feeders for the past 5 years.

collusion LOL. oh btw jerry west stepped down as the gm of the grizzles and now resides in la again so he had no part in this trade

[turiaf for president]

Yeah you have the most amazing GM in the world turning Kwame brown into a 20 and 10, 7foot spaniard

thanks?

get your head outta ure ass man. stop crying

[ClingingMars]

that was in response to the comment that draft picks are useless and the euro stats are meaningless.

so many draft picks in the NBA are busts that low ones essentially are meaningless.

- Mars

[turiaf for president]

we're talking trading a possible HOF center for draft picks.

- Mars

gasol HOF? now ure stretching it. no way in hes making the HOF.

trades like that have happened all the time in the nba.

nets got carter for draft picks and an old mourning

barkley went to the suns for hornicek

bulls got the draft rights to pippen for polynice

oh but wait theres collusion in the nba

[turiaf for president]

so many draft picks in the NBA are busts that low ones essentially are meaningless.

- Mars

i disagree. finley was a late 1st round pick. so was parker. manu was a 2nd round pick. so was rashard lewis, carlos boozer, gilbert arenas, etc.

i agree there are busts but if you have good gms (spurs included) you find the right players for your team

[SRJ]

His complaints got him Pau Gasol, didn't it?

Good for him. Meanwhile, we have other top players around the league who aren't drama queens despite the clear lack of talent on the roster.

If the roster isn't good enough, you can piss and moan in the press every offseason or you can be a professional about it. Kobe chose the former option.

[2Cleva]

Their are pimps and hoes in the world. Which side are you on?

LA hustled Memphis for their own needs. I see nothing wrong with that. Of course there are haters who can't stand that. If you don't have haters in your life, you must not be doing all the right things.