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    Easy for you to say when you dont have it
    It'd be easy if I did.

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    Then I will assume you are either one of the 47% who pay no taxes, or you make so much money, it doesn't change your quality of life.

    I make just enough money, that I'm not 'rich' but I pay out bigtime in taxes. Everytime the demonrats want to get the rich, they get me too. I am sick and tired of paying about $20,000 in taxes every year and being told I don't pay enough.

    Go yourself.
    I pay taxes and would I like to keep more of it? Yeah, but I also know taxes are there for our National Security and many other issues. I live off my take home pay. If I were rich and I'd still live off my take home pay knowing damn well that I'm in a higher tax bracket but I'd be rich enough that I wouldn't whine about it.

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    I pay taxes and would I like to keep more of it? Yeah, but I also know taxes are there for our National Security and many other issues. I live off my take home pay. If I were rich and I'd still live off my take home pay knowing damn well that I'm in a higher tax bracket but I'd be rich enough that I wouldn't whine about it.
    I wouldn't whine either if I though our government needed more money. It doesn't. Federal expenditures are way too high in the social spending area.

    If you want more money spent somwhere, make a donation. Don't ask the rest of us to help pay for what you believe in.

    When the "Bush Tax Cuts" expire, how much more do you expect to pay? I haven't figured it out yet, but I don't like the idea. Then the democrats want to raise taxes on top of that...
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    Class warfare is alive and well!

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    Sorry about the typo. I went to a prestigious high school that my "rich" parents payed very good money for me to attend. There are actually a good amount of ceo's, doctors, lawyers, professional athletes, etc... that all attended this prestigious hgh school as well. I know a professional athlete that makes roughly $4 million a year and pays more than that $300,000 figure you threw out. That is only 10% of their earnings for a person making $3,000,000. Isn't the highest tax bracket around 38%?

    It sounds as if you do not have a problem with people working hard and making their money. The ceo's I know of major construction companies that are making big big bucks have all worked very hard to do so. If they are investing their money, good for them. There is nothing wrong with that. If more people invested rather than spent what they got right away, we wouldn't be dealing with the current mortgage crisis.

    As far as I go, no I am not rich yet, but I plan to work hard so I can enjoy all the luxuries my parents and their parents have. I really don't reach a point in your whole discussion. Do you have a problem with people working hard and making a large amount of money? Do you feel the rich should be taxed more than they are? I see a lot of words but no point.

    Please answer those questions for me, before I go to my parents new condo on the Florida panhandle this weekend.

    Is that all you got out of that post? Money and status?

    People like you getting rich is what creates my apathy, golden boy.

    Since you couldnt figure it out, I dont care who is taxed what, but if youre rich and beyond that critical mass point, I dont think one should be ing.

    But everyone finds a reason to cry...or brag. Whatever floats their ego-inflated raft.

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    Which is JUST what the people want RIGHT NOW. What a coincidence!

    You want someone who might actually change things for the better, vote Ron Paul. He is attacking this ed up system with common sense.

    Obama says people want to hear. Ron Paul says people NEED to hear.
    INDEED GOOD SIR.

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    What's Obama's position today. He seems to change them
    quite often. You know like Israel and his church and
    lapel pins.....

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    What's Obama's position today. He seems to change them
    quite often. You know like Israel and his church and
    lapel pins.....
    McCain changes his positions too...depending on his audience.

    Nice try though.

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    is that you in your picture flipping off the camera? If so, you are a giant .

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    is that you in your picture flipping off the camera? If so, you are a giant .
    Wut.

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    Is that you in your avatar flipping of the camera? Also "wut" is spelled what. The fact that you spelled what "wut" and that you have a pitcure of yourself flipping off a camera makes you an even bigger .

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    Is that you in your avatar flipping of the camera? Also "wut" is spelled what. The fact that you spelled what "wut" and that you have a pitcure of yourself flipping off a camera makes you an even bigger .
    Wat.

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    When I look at your picture, I see you flipping me off now and I laugh at what a bag you are. Leave the politics to the big boys you little immature boy.

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    When I look at your picture, I see you flipping me off now and I laugh at what a bag you are. Leave the politics to the big boys you little immature boy.
    Did you check with your penis before making this post? Pretty ironic being called immature by someone calling me a out of the blue.

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    What is Obama's position today. Anyone heard.

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    Did you check with your penis before making this post? Pretty ironic being called immature by someone calling me a out of the blue.
    Wow a penis joke. You just keep getting cooler and cooler. I did not call you a out of the blue. I read some of your idiotic posts and saw your cool avatar with you flipping off the camera which is hilarious and never been done before. It also has taken you 2 days to come up with a comeback remark and that was it? Like I said before leave the political talk to the big boys. Go flip off another camera and talk about how drunk you are.

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    This is funny and all, but what has this to do with Obama and his positions?

    Do they even matter?

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    This is funny and all, but what has this to do with Obama and his positions?

    Do they even matter?
    It started out discussing obama's positions on issues or lack there of. It digressed into a discussion on rich people. Then I had to make fun of mannyisgod for his bag avatar picture. I wouldnt mind getting back to Democrats telling me some of Obamas stances that they agree with. They couldnt really do this the first time I asked.

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    I understand that Mrs. Obama loves it when Barry changes his position. But that is only a rumor and I didn't hear it from Rush. Don't want to blame him for something the dimms started like the whitey thing.

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    has obama decided to stay black?

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    This is funny and all, but what has this to do with Obama and his positions?

    Do they even matter?
    I'm not sure his positions matter at all. St. Barry is not really the sum of his positions on the issues. He's a movement, a brand, a feeling. I'm sure the majority of his True Followers will vote for him not knowing much about his positions at all. (Contrasted with McCain voters, who will vote for him often in spite of his known positions!)

    But like any election centered around a cult of personality, it will end up as a yea-or-nay vote on the object of the devotion.

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    Wow a penis joke. You just keep getting cooler and cooler. I did not call you a out of the blue. I read some of your idiotic posts and saw your cool avatar with you flipping off the camera which is hilarious and never been done before. It also has taken you 2 days to come up with a comeback remark and that was it? Like I said before leave the political talk to the big boys. Go flip off another camera and talk about how drunk you are.
    Wut?

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    I see the thread below about Obama's accomplishments or reasons he should get your vote. I read the first page and didn't see one listed.

    The only things I do know about his actual positions are:

    - He voted against banning partial birth abortion

    - He is for universal healthcare

    - He has mentioned having everyone pay for mortgages that people can't pay off by themselves.

    - He wants to cut and run in Iraq

    - Some people say he has mentioned reparations for slavery, but I cant see this being true.

    It seems he talks about Hope and Change and never talks about what he would do to solve the issues. I could tell you most of Mccain's stances on issues, but hardly any of Obamas.
    You want to talk politics? Lets.

    Your OP in this thread is beyond foolish. You admit your own ignorance on the subject you want to discuss in what I can only assume is some lame attempt to show that "HEY LOOK OBAMA SUPPORTERS DON'T KNOW ABOUT HIM EXCEPT HIS PRETTY SPEECHES!". Its refreshing to see such a novel and smart approach come to this political forum.

    I'm sure you've gone to an Obama rally and I'm sure your last paragraph isn't another statement based on ignorance. I'm sure your familiar what the so called "stump" and how presidential campaigns are run.

    Thsi thread was bull from the get go. If leaving politics to the big boys means leaving it to idiots like you who can't be bothered to rid themselves of ignorance and instead think they're being clever in trying to expose that same ignorance in others then by all means, have at it.

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