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    The problem lies not with NBA rookie salary cap, but with the location where Splitter was drafted. If he goes in the top ten, then the salary is compe ive. If he goes in the second round, the salary can be compe ive, depending what a team is willing to offer. The late first round draft and stash is currently a lousy strategy. You can do it in the second round, but not late in the first round. If you can get a guy to come over immediately, fine. But otherwise, treating the Euroleague like a glorified D-league clearly isn't going to fly with good prospects. It used to be that they built their value to go to the NBA, now they are building their value to the Euro teams.

    Scola didn't come because the Spurs were too ing cheap to pay him. In some ways, this is a similar deal -- they thought they could get frontline help on the cheap with a rookie contract for a guy who they knew was better than what they could pay him. It seemed like a brilliant business decision at the time -- get Mahinmi and Splitter for less than the cost of Scola. But they severely underestimated the market forces at work. In hindsight, you can't blame them but they got blindsided and made a bad business decision.
    Therein lies the problem. If they are considered a top prospect, you have take them in the 1st. You have good points, but I still think there's a problem when you have to draft in the 2nd round so you can pay the player correctly. Oh well, no need to dwell on something the NBA and NBA fans don't care about. Either draft them top 10 or in the second.

    I think that's why Splitter fell to San Antonio. I believe most teams felt that he wasn't a top 10, and the teams after that probably felt he wouldn't come over on that scale. I wonder how far he would've fallen if San Antonio didn't choose him?

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    A couple of new things about Splitter :
    -His salary won't e as high as reported. The report saying that he will earn 8 times more than in NBA is bull . His salary should be in the €1.2M - €1.4M range.
    - Tau has announced that their budget will be lower next year than this year. It will go from €14M to €12.5M-€13M.

    It makes me even more puzzled about Splitter decision not to follow "the biggest dream in his life" to stay in Europe for not that much more money and for a second tier team. If you add to that Buford weird declaration "we're excited", I'm fully lost and I really hope we will know one day what has really happened.

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    wow, sounds like he makes even less than Javtokas.

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    1) 1.2 to 1.4 M before or after taxes?
    That makes a big difference.

    2) Getting year in year out in the final 4 of the Euroleague can hardly be described as a second tier. Tau would consistently beat half a dozen NBA teams in 7 games series.

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    2) Getting year in year out in the final 4 of the Euroleague can hardly be described as a second tier. Tau would consistently beat half a dozen NBA teams in 7 games series.
    Not even close. Tau would be hard pressed to beat a single NBA team in a series. Christ, Planicic is one of their starters.

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    no euros picked in the first round unless there is a contractual agreement if picked in the first round u will play for the team that year. if u back out a substantial fine will be imposed on the player. all euro projects/not sure/iffy/needs time to grow players in second round. problem solved.

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    then there will be a "my bad" re-draft

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    no euros picked in the first round unless there is a contractual agreement if picked in the first round u will play for the team that year. if u back out a substantial fine will be imposed on the player. all euro projects/not sure/iffy/needs time to grow players in second round. problem solved.
    Not a bad idea. However David Stern has his nose so far up the ass of the international markets that I doubt he would want to impose any restrictions that would upset the development of international coalitions in these areas and with these clubs. Clubs that he hopes, one day, to somehow absorb into grand plan to form an NBA International League.

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    ROFL

    That is the lamest spin job I've ever seen out of the Spurs FO.
    That's probalby the only thing he can say at this point - it's not entirely their fault, TAU has been owning the Spurs for quite a while, they winning made things easier for splitter to stay and the problem with currency is a big one.

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    Not a bad idea. However David Stern has his nose so far up the ass of the international markets that I doubt he would want to impose any restrictions that would upset the development of international coalitions in these areas and with these clubs. Clubs that he hopes, one day, to somehow absorb into grand plan to form an NBA International League.
    The League of Extraordinary European Men????

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    Not even close. Tau would be hard pressed to beat a single NBA team in a series. Christ, Planicic is one of their starters.
    And Splitter did not even start.

    NYK, Twolves, Grizzlies, Seattle, Miami and Charlotte the first that come to mind.

    Splitter would be starting with all those teams.

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    Overall, I judge Buford's statement appropriate.
    In two years time, Splitter will be a much better player and will decide.

    The key thing is they keep the rights on him.

    Re-sign Thomas, try Mahinmi and you will get another 52-56 wins season.

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    Not a bad idea. However David Stern has his nose so far up the ass of the international markets that I doubt he would want to impose any restrictions that would upset the development of international coalitions in these areas and with these clubs. Clubs that he hopes, one day, to somehow absorb into grand plan to form an NBA International League.
    i doubt that would happen/i hate stern as much as i do bud selig....anyway we lucked out with manu/parker....i think our time is up with the ero luck. we need us born athletes that can help now

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    no euros picked in the first round unless there is a contractual agreement if picked in the first round u will play for the team that year. if u back out a substantial fine will be imposed on the player. all euro projects/not sure/iffy/needs time to grow players in second round. problem solved.
    we could still hold their rights or maybe they are not allowed to get back in the draft for 2 or 4 years after backing out on the team that drafted them. making it a now or never type deal if they ever want to play in the nba.

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    i doubt that would happen/i hate stern as much as i do bud selig....anyway we lucked out with manu/parker....i think our time is up with the ero luck. we need us born athletes that can help now
    Couldn't agree more.

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