A glimpse into government health care

[RandomGuy]

Don't ask me for a link either. I'm not looking it up. I am shocked that people get into this single payer idea without looking at the bad aspects themselves. It works this way. Patients who get cancer do not get treated right away. Too many end up on waiting lists to be seen. By the time they get seen and treated, many who could have survived now become terminally ill because of the progression of cancer from a controllable cancer, to uncontrollable.

There are other situations that do occur. I'm not an expert here, I just know things like this happen regularly.

Translation:

"I have no data for my opinion other than what I pulled out of my ass"

Gotcha.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Wild Cobra]

Real translation, I don't have that much time to spend.

I don't know about you, but I have a life.

If you want government health care, then move to a socialistic country. no to having it here where we need to maintain the free market.

The reasons are complicated, and Random, you must be one of those grown up kids living in your parents basement to have all the time you do to find holes in peoples arguments.

Too many times, I have given clear answers, then you go off on tangents arguing against things I didn't cover.

You have too much time and consistently fail to address pointed questions and answers, yet expect other to do that for you. When I do have the time to argue with you again, I will likely pass since you just don't get the truth when clearly pointed out. If you do, you twist it how ever you can, not admitting fault.

Seriously, I have no desire to do the research it takes to make my points, as you will still not believe it.

[RandomGuy]

Real translation, I don't have that much time to spend.

I don't know about you, but I have a life.

If you want government health care, then move to a socialistic country. no to having it here where we need to maintain the free market.

The reasons are complicated, and Random, you must be one of those grown up kids living in your parents basement to have all the time you do to find holes in peoples arguments.

Too many times, I have given clear answers, then you go off on tangents arguing against things I didn't cover.

You have too much time and consistently fail to address pointed questions and answers, yet expect other to do that for you. When I do have the time to argue with you again, I will likely pass since you just don't get the truth when clearly pointed out. If you do, you twist it how ever you can, not admitting fault.

Seriously, I have no desire to do the research it takes to make my points, as you will still not believe it.

That is always your excuse when confronted with a reality that doesn't fit into your opinion. "I don't have time." You have time to have an opinion, but never to actually see if that opinion is a good one supported by things like facts. I am glad you aren't in charge of anything, but you would fit right in somewhere in the Bush administration.

I would give any data you could present a fair hearing. Given the fact you are a hack, and generally dishonest, I would give that a good skeptical eye, though.

I don't go off on tangents, and I fully understand what you say. But if you want to salvage some bit of your ego and lie to yourself that you have somehow proven any of your dogma as "fact", who I am I to interfere in your delusion?

[Wild Cobra]

That is always your excuse when confronted with a reality that doesn't fit into your opinion. "I don't have time." You have time to have an opinion, but never to actually see if that opinion is a good one supported by things like facts.

When I have supplied good facts, you ignore them.

It is summer you know. Maybe you spend your free time indoors, but I like to spend most of my free time outdoors. I really don't have the time to find good reliable data unless I wish to spend much more time on the computer. Winter time, I will spend more time here. Untill this last week, Oregon has refused to participate in global warming.

I would give any data you could present a fair hearing. Given the fact you are a hack, and generally dishonest, I would give that a good skeptical eye, though.

Bull . You always find ways to argue against things I don't even say, ignoring my points entirely rather often.

I don't go off on tangents, and I fully understand what you say.

Right. Ozone is smog and NO and NO2 are the same.

[RandomGuy]

You always find ways to argue against things I don't even say, ignoring my points entirely rather often.

Link? Post?

I call bull on this one. Put up an example of this.

If I do it all the time, it should be easy for you.

[RandomGuy]

Right. Ozone is smog and NO and NO2 are the same.

I have never said ozone is smog and NO and NO2 are the same.

Ozone and smog are not the same, but are similar enough in usage to be fairly interchangible for most casual purposes.

Since you are a hack and not interested in fair dialogue, you nitpicked on that endlessly to make your weak-ass case. Don't blame me for distorting your words and hypocritically turn around in the same sentence and do the same to what I say.

[Wild Cobra]

I have never said ozone is smog and NO and NO2 are the same.

Ozone and smog are not the same, but are similar enough in usage to be fairly interchangible for most casual purposes.

Since you are a hack and not interested in fair dialogue, you nitpicked on that endlessly to make your weak-ass case. Don't blame me for distorting your words and hypocritically turn around in the same sentence and do the same to what I say.

Again, you miss my point.

[RandomGuy]

Again, you miss my point.

Your point was that I don't understand what you say, and you distorted what *I* said to somehow prove that.

As I have said before, stop flattering yourself by thinking you are so smart that I can't figure out what you are trying to say.

[Wild Cobra]

Ozone and smog are not the same, but are similar enough in usage to be fairly interchangible for most casual purposes.

You really believe that?

Ozone is a component of smog. Smog has several othetr components. The level of ozone in smog can range from zero man made (rather minimul natural) to harmful levels.

To say they are interchangeable in a casual sense is rather ignorant of the subject. I continued to try to separate the two. You still hold them to close. That is your mistake. Not mine.

To explain again about my PROVING the article has fallacies. When this occurs in any material, all points the author make are suspect. The accuracy needs to then be tested before relying on the author. The author then makes his case against the Bush administration by using the words of two liberal pundits as fact. There is also no balance of using two pundits for the administration. I was also challenging the accuracy of these two spokes people for the two activist groups. Something still never resolved. I hay they are full of . The author obviously didn't care about the accuracy of the article. You go on to find a few accurate items that I never disagreed with, trying to make me disagree?

Give me a break. You ignored the fact I was also challenging that aspect of the liberal activists words. The author obviously doesn't give a of getting the facts right. Why should we trust the two activists words he used?

[Sec24Row7]

The only problem I have with Socialized Medicine is that I am going to have to pay for your ty health care... as well as my and my employees good health care...

Right now I pay for my good health care and my employees good health care...


I don't know who the you are...