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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    Will alternate fuel vehicles "bring costs down"?

    No. They will not. No proponent will ever claim otherwise.

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    Over time, as the efficiency of renewables as an energy source surpasses that of oil, gasoline cars will simply not be economical. Pure, free-market economics.

    It might not quite happen in your lifetime Ray, but it will in mine, and my grandchildren will wonder at the noisy, dirty museum peices that their grampa drove.
    But they sure leave the impression that it will bring cost down and save the world in one fell swoop. Don't they?

    It wont happen in my lifetime. It will be a good twenty or more years before they have anything that will come close to replacing oil.

    Oh, and I really don't think the kids nor their kids will think that way. The may even be surprised that we built machines that had so much room and so many gadgets that they no longer have the luxury of. And could travel such distances without refueling or without all the proper permits. No, I am no kidding. Dead serious. The direction we are going there will be no free market as we know it.

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    It sure would be nice if you expressed such things in an honest manner instead of through propaganda. So, am I right about this assessment. President Bush authorized the EPA to take the action, but he did not prohibit the action himself?

    The way you said implies president Bush prohibited the drilling. That in effect is a lie.

    To suggest president Bush prohibited it through the EPA is to say he is micromanaging it, and directed such actions. Now I ask this. To support the idea that president Bush prohibited the drilling, where is there evidence he directed the EPA to do so?
    (sighs heavily)

    Nope. I said nothing of the sort.

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