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I agree with pretty much everything except this. Garland was an All Star the year before Mitc arrived, and his stats took a small hit in year one, and a bigger hit in year two. Playing with Mitc in no way helped him.
with how weak this draft is I wouldn't trade up. With how stacked the 25 draft is, I wouldn't trade any of our 25 picks. Garland's value is down since playing with Mitc hurt his stats, but other teams also trying to trade for him will drive up the price. The only picks I'd be willing to move are #8, the CHA first and a bunch of 2nd rounders. There's no way you get Garland for that and Keldon Johnson tbh. I'm in the "keep the powder dry" camp right now, unless there's a deal out there where you pull of a heist.
Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 06-06-2024 at 05:45 AM.
I agree with pretty much everything except this. Garland was an All Star the year before Mitc arrived, and his stats took a small hit in year one, and a bigger hit in year two. Playing with Mitc in no way helped him.
Who do you think the other suitors for his services would be realistically? I’m sure they exist but I also wonder if they’re matches. I think the biggest contender is Orlando tbh.
Like what are the best packages LAL, ORL, and BYN could build?
The former GM quit over this very deal, because, and stop me if you’ve heard it before, the owner’s failson drove the deal to the deficit of the franchise. It doesn’t matter that the regime is new. The owner would still have to sign off on something like this, a deficit trade, and I doubt he does. It would bring back into the public conversation what a yutz his son is.
That could be. My experience with spoiled en led Kids is that they don't take responsibility for anything. He is probably so oblivious that he doesn't even recognize his culpability.
Trae vs Darius vs Dejounte is an interesting argument - I do agree that from a team-building perspective Dejounte is easily the most natural fit especially with Vassell's declined defense, but it does require a significant amount of buy-in on the defensive end from him. Dejounte's defensive impact cratered on the Hawks and part of it was definitely due to his being miscast starting next to Trae and being unable to use his relative size advantage. However, even in SA his last season, his defensive impact went down with his offensive role increased. You'd have to hope that with a reduced offensive role with Vassell and Wemby in the fold, he can get back to his early spurs years level which would require a decent amount of buy-in on his part.
I’m trying to think of examples where a team re-acquired (via trade) a player they traded away. The only one I can think of is that the Pistons gave us Rodman for Elliott, and then turned around and sent him back for Bill Curly (lol). There were some extenuating cir stances (Rodman holing up in the Palace with a shotgun; Elliott getting chubby, having some injuries in DET) there… but there is an example of a team getting a reduced return to “undo” a trade.
With that said, the Spurs also paid Sean Elliott to get Rodman, and then turnaround and gave him away for freakin’ Will Purdue.
Now we know we can get DJ for less.
Would you do Keldon, Malaki, #8 and Cha pick for Laurin and Clarkson? Or maybe our #4 instead of #8 and we get their #10. Both scenarios work on the trade machine.
Would Utha do it? If not, what do you think would it take to get it done?
Clarkson has 2 years at 14M left, Lauri expires after this season.
Last edited by pookenstein; 06-06-2024 at 03:08 AM.
yeah my bad I meant to say his stats went down by playing with Mitc . You put him on the Spurs and he's gon average 20 PPG again in no time
Danny Ainge is an asshole, so no,they won’t do that this summer. If Lauri doesn’t extend,and it looks like they may lose him at the deadline, his price may drop.
I believe everyone does that trade, except Utah.
What do you think Utha would want to get it done?
Probably the hawks pick or something.
Seems quite low-ball for Lauri if it's keldon and this years pick(s)
Ainge doesn't pick up the phone without three or four solid FRPs.
Price would be lower at the deadline if Lauri doesn't extend.
I'm not sure but I don't believe #8 + CHA pick would be enough of a difference maker for Utah to bite. Ainge would problably expect more valuable picks and/or assets in return.
Heard a version of this trade on a pod. What do folks think:
SAS: #11; Ayo Dosunmu
CHI: #8; #35
I would feel much better drafting a Salun or Williams in that range.
Spurs pick up in interesting 6'5" combo guard. Toss in Blake if needed.
I actually would like that trade. I've been hoping and talking about how Spurs FO should look into trying to trade for Ayo. He played well when he was starting last year and was compared to Jrue.
I've only heard that Ainge will try to re-sign Lauri and start using some of his draft capital to trade for some players to put around him now vs later. On your offer though, no way Ainge gives up that little for those two players or even Lauri by himself.
And to be fair, the original version that was being kicked around was for 4 instead of 8, which i thought was rich. But, if you are saying the comp is Jru, then maybe its not crazy?
Yeah I heard Spurs were interested in him before he re-signed with CHI. He was restricted though. So if CHI wants to shake things up especially with that albatross of a contract for Levine and possibly re-singing Derozen, Ayo may be available and be a nice young talent on a manageable contract. In this draft, I'd definitely be open to giving up the 8th/35th picks to swap for the 11th and Ayo. For the fourth, I guess it depends who the Spurs value in this draft and who is there after the first three are gone.
I'd do that deal right now.... sign me up..
Cavs get:
2024 #4 pick
2024 #8 pick
2025 Spurs own FRP 1-10 protected
Keldon Johnson
Devonte’ Graham
Spurs get:
Darius Garland
2024 #20 pick
No thanks. Rather just get Trae for that or another pick added to that even. Take our pick out of it and let them keep their pick this year and maybe.
Too rich in my view. We only really need to outbid ORL, but they may be hot for Trae or DJ too.
Keldon, Malaki, 8, 35 and maybe CHI pick should do it.
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