Donald G.W.B. Trump officially attacks Iran

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TSA never cops to a bum take, but he remembers every slight

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Michael Rubin thinks Erdogan in 2026 is Nasser in 1966 -- a burgeoning existential threat to Israel

There are a number of ways this war could spiral out of control, one of them would be Israel attacking Turkey or the reverse

Behind-the-scenes, Turkey not only seeks to enhance Syria’s capability to attack Israel but has also replaced Iran as a lifeline to Hezbollah, according to defense and intelligence professionals from multiple countries in the region.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2026/04/...ack-on-turkey/

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Trump, setting up his next market manipulating public announcement, casually threatens to kill millions of Iranian civilians

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indirectly, the whole world has been affected by Trump/Bibi's harebrained war of choice and will be for years to come

The World Food Programme estimates that if the blockage continues until mid-year, an extra 45m lives will be at risk, on top of the more than 300m people who already struggle to feed themselves

https://www.economist.com/internatio...z-stays-closed

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this level of approval for the war is a likely ceiling

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that's been the trend so far

(Reuters) - European allies fear an inexperienced U.S. negotiating team is pushing for a swift, headline‑grabbing framework deal with Iran that could entrench rather than resolve deeper problems, diplomats with past experience dealing with Tehran said.

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"aides kept the president out of the room"

https://www.wsj.com/politics/nationa...-fear-59814dca

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sending two real-estate scammers and JD Vance to parley with Iran is a mismatch not necessarily in the US's favor

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also, whatever deal that eventually gets signed can be blown up on a whim by a vexed dementia patient

They worry Washington, eager to claim a diplomatic win for President Donald Trump, could lock in a superficial agreement on Iran’s nuclear programme and sanctions relief, then struggle through months or years of technically complex follow‑on talks.-Reuters

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which is noticed by Iran

: “In light of Trump's statements about holding negotiations and inconsistency with what is actually happening between Iran and the U.S., we believe we’re facing a deception by the enemy and we’re on the verge of a new round of escalation.”-Al Jazeera

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[Blake]

Trump, setting up his next market manipulating public announcement, casually threatens to kill millions of Iranian civilians

So does Trump want the Strait open or closed? I don't think he knows.

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deciding whether Trump or Iran is the bigger liar isn't easy, they both lie their asses off

Iran rejected taking part in the second round of talks with the United States, the state-run Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) reported on Sunday.

“Iran stated that its absence from the second round of talks stems from what it called Washington’s excessive demands, unrealistic expectations, constant shifts in stance, repeated contradictions, and the ongoing naval blockade, which it considers a breach of the ceasefire,” the IRNA said.

The IRNA also accused the US of playing a “blame game,” lying about Iran’s participation in a second round of talks in order to put pressure on the country.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/ir...article-893538

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So does Trump want the Strait open or closed? I don't think he knows.

it's time to take the car keys away from pepaw

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Trump's war of choice has already rekt the UAE

UAE CENBANK GOV. BALAMA RAISED IDEA OF CURRENCY-SWAP LINE WITH BESSENT & TREASURY, FEDERAL OFFICIALS IN MEETINGS IN WASHINGTON LAST WEEK- WSJ

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/econ...ne/ar-AA21gBXO

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like mass starvation, a worldwide depression and social chaos

the chance of Trump starting WWIII because he can't surrender to Iran without losing face and/or Iran won't let him at this point -- is well north of zero

The silver lining is that a maximally catastrophic outcome could take out nearly every hole regime in the Middle East.

Unfortunately, lots of horrific things are likely to happen if you simultaneously collapse every hole regime in the Middle East and destroy the infrastructure and economy.

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(I blame this on Iran too, they're misplaying their poker hand badly -- intransigeance on both sides is a danger to the whole world)

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the GCC's attempts to bribe and ingratiate Trump didn't pay off

Trapped between their chief ally and their neighbor, (the Gulf states) are now forced to rethink their security strategies.

The war has caused a state of “strategic shock” for Qatar and its neighbors, said Rashid Al-Mohanadi, the vice president of the Center for International Policy Research, a think tank in Qatar.

“There was an assumption that such a big move in the region, like starting a war with Iran, would at least happen in consultation with the Gulf,” he said. “We thought we had a better working relationship with the United States.”
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In recent years, the government sought to cultivate close ties with President Trump, donating a Boeing 747 jetliner to him. A Qatari government-owned real estate firm sealed a deal last year with Mr. Trump’s family business, the Trump Organization, to construct a Trump-branded golf course in Qatar.

And when Mr. Trump visited Qatar last May, he signed an agreement with officials there “to generate an economic exchange worth at least $1.2 trillion,” the White House announced.
Despite all of that, Qatar was able to exert little control over a war that directly involved it.

The uncomfortable realization that Israel appears to have more influence over Mr. Trump’s decisions than Gulf leaders do has reverberated through Gulf royal courts, analysts said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/19/w...an-us-war.html

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DON'T TELL THEM I AM UNDER PRESSURE

[Blake]

DON'T TELL THEM I AM UNDER PRESSURE

Lol "relatively quickly"

So he's saying we could be there for years?

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Lol "relatively quickly"

So he's saying we could be there for years?

if Hormuz is closed another 3 months, a worldwide recession is possible

[Blake]

Doomberg predicting $40 oil by end of summer

Where's Snakes today? Not next week. Today.

[Blake]

Oil prices are rebounding today, after the US Navy seized an Iranian cargo ship Sunday, knocking hopes of a peace deal between Washington and Tehran during talks expected this week.

Brent crude, the global oil benchmark, has risen 6.3% to $96 a barrel. WTI, the US benchmark, is up 7% at $88.3 a barrel.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/20/world...s-trump-israel

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Trump is largely responsible for the strategic mess he's in now

[Blake]

Trump is largely responsible for the strategic mess he's in now

What a stupid piece of .