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I would go with Parker/MP/Batum/Diaw/Noah.
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EuroBasket: France 66, Spain 88
by Graydon Gordian
It’s been a while. Let’s see if I remember how to do this.
Despite the announcer’s bombastic 1st quarter prognostication that we had “all the makings of a classic,” this afternoon’s contest between Spain and France proved to be nothing of the sort. Spain pulled away by 10 at the end of the first and would maintain a comfortable lead for the remainder of the game. In short, Spain turned France into a jump shooting team by successfully implementing their zone and sagging man defensive schemes. But then again, we all know games, even blowouts, are never as simple as that.
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The good thing is Tony will have some rest.
If France won today, they'd have to play semifinals game and possibly finals game. They lost and now they get to play two games for places 5-8 and assuming they want to qualify themselves for world championships, I don't think Tony will get any more rest than he would if they had won against Spain.
Spain was just too strong. Props to them.
Until we have someone who can guard Gasol, it is a no match.
I wonder if Noah would have helped. I am not too sure about it.
I would not have expected to say that, but this show us how important Fred Weis was for France in 2005. He would not have stopped Pau, but at least he could have offer some resistance and would not have foul out in 20 minutes like Turiaf.
I believe there is one player who could have helped, it is Moïso. He is now a very capable defender in Spain. Too bad he don't want to play for the FNT.
The poor game from Parker is anecdotal IMO. We would have needed a miracle to win this one.
Now, I hope we can regroup and win one of the last two.
France NT deserves all the props. Not for the game against Spain, but for the whole effort. Until three weeks ago France hasn't been qualified yet for Eurobasket.
Your NT is playing together more than month and a half right now. It is miracle that melt-down come so late.
I know that expectations rose from day to day, but hey - what was the goal at the beginning of the August?
Qualification for the World Championship.
WC is almost lock. Even if France finish 8th, there are still four wildcards (three are usually spend on Europe). France is to important to be overseen at 8th place. If we (Slovenia) finish 8th, well than is no chance to get wildcard (Lithuania, Italiy, Germany)
Italy can't get a wild card:
http://turkey2010.fiba.com/pages/eng...962/index.html
If FNT end up 8th, they will get at 99% a wild card but I rather see earning their spot for the WC on the court.In order to be invited, a team must have participated in its 2009 FIBA Zone Qualifying Championship
If Slovenia end 8th, I also think they will get a wild card. There is for sure an economical aspect but giving a wild card to Poland or Great Britain instead of Slovenia would be a shame basketball wise.
i know this sounds weird but the closest comparison i can see to this scenario btw i didtn watch the game is spurs (france) and spain (lakers)
I don't think it is a good comparison since the Spurs have Duncan who can match with Gasol. The French team is more like those teams in the East who have some talent but can't reach the next level because they don't have a talented true bigman (Miami/Washington/... there is a long list going).
The problem of the Spurs was more with the supporting cast and Manu being injured.
Edit:
There is another problem:
It was the first game(s) at this level for Batum, De Colo, Diot, Koffi, Traoré, Mahinmi. Hopefully they will learn from this experience.
Last edited by mathbzh; 09-18-2009 at 04:41 AM.
Parker's performance was disappointing but the outcome wasn't much of a surprise. A team with a star bigman beats a team with a star point guard more times than not. Add in better and more experienced complementary players and the only thing France really had going for it was being the "hotter" team.
But yeah, France seems to have made impressive strides this summer. Their play isn't as stagnant as years past and they seem to be transitioning well to a younger generation.
Now hopefully Parker remains healthy in these last two games and he has enough juice for the upcoming NBA season.
I think that is also a key.France really had going for it was being the "hotter" team.
Somehow, I think France should have play with more confidence (easy to say).
After De Colo won the game against Greece, they should have been more enthusiastic instead of thinking "ooops... !!!". Instead, we have shown that we didn't believe in the win over Spain.
Collet is a good coach, but I believe he was wrong to play on keeping control and a cold head.
Many reasons could explain this loss. Bottom line is Spain is just too much for us. Talent, size, team spirit, experience... they are just a superior team, possibly the best european NT ever.
Against a world class team like Spain, France misses size and talent in the paint (Noah, Moiso) and shooting skills (where is the new Hervé Dubuisson?).
But what really strikes me is that this team doesn't have this necessary "je ne sais quoi" that every great team cultivates over the years. In their eyes, i've never seen what could be seen in the 98' footballers eyes or in the 08' handballers eyes. TP apart, the guys don't seem to have this needed "culture de la gagne"
I was thinking about the 1992 handball team aka "les barjots" (crazy men).
France was nothing in handball and after some major upset won a bronze medal.
In the at ude, they were really the perfect underdog. Maybe France could learn a thing or two from handball coaches.
In 2008, they were just the best team and were sure about their strength.
Sure but both teams (Barjots, Costauds and Experts) had the same "we are a squad on a mission and we're gonna win or die trying" deep in their eyes. Same could be said of the 98', 00' football NT.
I'm not sure the comparison is wise but in the at ude, the BB NT reminds me of Lyon during the knock out stages of the champions league.
Anyway props to Spain they are the only team right now in the world who can rivalize with Team USA. They're simply superior.
But I'm disappointed by Tony's no game, I wonder what the scenario could have been if Tony came strong and agressive at the beginning like he usually does with Spurs.
+ France need also another slasher who can create and score, I believe talented Big men is quite a dream.
Never saw Yugoslavia when they (we) won EC in 1990??? THAT was THE BEST team in Europe in the past, present and in the future! Divac, Rađa, Kukoč, Petrovič, Zdovc....
When Tony comes strong in the first quarter, he freezes the NT, and we play bad. He's got to be patient and involve everyone before he gets on fire. But yesterday against Spain, it was too late, especially considering they did a god job defending him.
how's the weather in france?
Ok let me rephrase it: "possibly the best european NT ever..... along with the early 90' Yugoslavian (then Croatian) team"
That's what I'm talking about, against superior team, they don't have sufficient talent yet. It doesn't work like that. If it isn't Tony then who?
Boris?Batum?De Colo? They're not the scorers to rivalize the Spanish. And yesterday was the perfect example:with Tony isolated they couldn't score. Yesterday the only chance FNT had was Tony going crazy first whatever they're defending well him or not Tony has to take off the game if he's supposed to be an elite player.
Anyway who gives a with FNT it's always the same story they've got the potential with some talented players but never concretize with lack of shooters(killers) and big men.
They're are just outsiders and always will.(unless they find real Big Men)
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