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  1. #1276
    Injured Reserve Vashner's Avatar
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    Yea.. the good thing is people are out of there... it will be rebuilt already anyway..

  2. #1277
    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    Where are you finding that? I keep looking at weather.com and it hasn't seemed to change in 3 days.
    Sapphire, these are mathematical models of the atmosphere we are looking at. The Hurricane Center uses several models to try to predict what hurricanes are going to do. What you see on weather.com is the current NHC prediction.

    Some of us geeks like to dig deeper and look at some of the info the NHC is using. It makes pretty pictures, but it's also subject to a lot of errors. That's why NHC uses many models...they knock them off each other.

  3. #1278
    Basketball Expertise spurster's Avatar
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    Some of the lanes had to be maintained as inbound up until a certain point for emergency services.

    I don't believe its possible to have an orderly evacuation of two million people. It's not defeatism, it's just reality. How do you set up a rapid response unit that can appear on a moment's notice to evacuate millions of people?
    Didn't you say a few posts ago that the people had lots of time to leave early?

    Yes, it's defeatism. We can orderly have 50,000 to 100,000 people leave a stadium in a relatively small area. Surely, we can do a couple million over a big city.

  4. #1279
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    The next rounds of evacuations will run more smoothly. If you look at the New Orleans evacutation during Ivan, and the evacuation during Katrina, they are 2 different worlds. The Evac during Ivan was very much like this one.

  5. #1280
    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    Where da fvck you been, man?

  6. #1281
    Seriously???? Ishta's Avatar
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    Updates?

  7. #1282
    Injured Reserve Vashner's Avatar
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    LOL what's up with the BAMM?? hahah

  8. #1283
    Multimedia Spurs
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    Beaumont/P. Arthur look ed and flooded, winds + 10 inches rain, NO is stepping back into . models drifting east

  9. #1284
    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    LOL what's up with the BAMM?? hahah
    BAMM has been hooking hard and early like that for a while...

  10. #1285
    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    Satellite views are really ugly...the eye has visually collapsed...

    Latest VORTEX...about 35 minutes ago...

    000
    URNT12 KNHC 231730Z
    VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
    A. 23/1700Z
    B. 27 DEG 38 MIN N
    92 DEG 08 MIN W
    C. NA
    D. NA
    E. NA
    F. 180 DEG 124 KT
    G. 089 DEG 18 NM
    H. 931 MB
    I. 16 C/ 2200 M
    J. 20 C/ 2653 M
    K. 15 C/ NA
    L. OPEN SE
    M. C30
    N. 12345/NA
    O. 1/1 NM
    P. NOAA2 WX18A RITA OB 05
    MAX FL WIND 124 KT E QUAD 1654Z
    FIX AT 8,700 FT PRESSURE AL UDE

  11. #1286
    Seriously???? Ishta's Avatar
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    Satellite views are really ugly...the eye has visually collapsed...

    Latest VORTEX...about 35 minutes ago...

    000
    URNT12 KNHC 231730Z
    VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
    A. 23/1700Z
    B. 27 DEG 38 MIN N
    92 DEG 08 MIN W
    C. NA
    D. NA
    E. NA
    F. 180 DEG 124 KT
    G. 089 DEG 18 NM
    H. 931 MB
    I. 16 C/ 2200 M
    J. 20 C/ 2653 M
    K. 15 C/ NA
    L. OPEN SE
    M. C30
    N. 12345/NA
    O. 1/1 NM
    P. NOAA2 WX18A RITA OB 05
    MAX FL WIND 124 KT E QUAD 1654Z
    FIX AT 8,700 FT PRESSURE AL UDE
    What exactly does that mean?

  12. #1287
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    It's data from a recon flight...

    NOAA P3


    Air Force Reserve C130J (older) and C130 H (newer with glass pit and
    pull down HUD display like fighters have)
    Last edited by Vashner; 09-23-2005 at 12:51 PM.

  13. #1288
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    It's data from a recon flight...
    OK we got that part, but what does it mean???

  14. #1289
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    Just look at Boutons last post he summarized it...

  15. #1290
    Free Throw Coach Aggie Hoopsfan's Avatar
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    Downgraded to cat3. Eye wall has collapsed, upper level surface sheer on the west side of the storm is weakening it.

  16. #1291
    Injured Reserve Vashner's Avatar
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    But it's just starting to heat up today.. it got get stronger again..

  17. #1292
    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    Just look at Boutons last post he summarized it...
    who's last post?

  18. #1293
    Seriously???? Ishta's Avatar
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    OK we got that part, but what does it mean???
    That's what I was thinking!!

  19. #1294
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    un ingbelievable. I have a very close friend who has relatives that live directly between Beaumont and Orange right in the flood plain between the Sabine and Neches river...She and everyone else in her family have been been begging them to leave for days...we are talking extended family...aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews etc.

    Their reason for not leaving? They have a lot of deer meat in their freezers and they "have" to stay there to keep the generator running...I knew there were a lot of backwoods hicks in Vidor but this one takes the cake...If this thing stalls it will be one big lake from Beaumont to Orange if the storm surge doesn't get them first..

  20. #1295
    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    What exactly does that mean?
    000
    URNT12 KNHC 231730Z
    VORTEX DATA MESSAGE ...... header information
    A. 23/1700Z ..................... timestamp for this report (1700Z=12 Noon CDT)
    B. 27 DEG 38 MIN N ............ lat/long for storm center
    92 DEG 08 MIN W
    C. NA
    D. NA
    E. NA
    F. 180 DEG 124 KT ............. Strongest winds were from the south at 124KTS
    G. 089 DEG 18 NM .............. Winds in F were measured at this bearing and distance from center
    H. 931 MB ........................ Barometric pressure in eye
    I. 16 C/ 2200 M ................. Temp (at what al ude) outside eye
    J. 20 C/ 2653 M ................. Temp (at what al ude) inside eye. Large differences (like 10 or more degrees) show strong storms.
    K. 15 C/ NA ...................... Dewpoint inside eye. Low dewpoint = dry air = strong storm
    L. OPEN SE ....................... Eye is open to the SE
    M. C30 ............................. Eye is circular, radius 30 NM
    N. 12345/NA
    O. 1/1 NM
    P. NOAA2 WX18A RITA OB 05
    MAX FL WIND 124 KT E QUAD 1654Z
    FIX AT 8,700 FT PRESSURE AL UDE

    edit: didn't explain M properly...cranial flatulence...
    Last edited by travis2; 09-23-2005 at 01:17 PM.

  21. #1296
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    000
    URNT12 KNHC 231730Z
    VORTEX DATA MESSAGE ...... header information
    A. 23/1700Z ..................... timestamp for this report (1700Z=12 Noon CDT)
    B. 27 DEG 38 MIN N ............ lat/long for storm center
    92 DEG 08 MIN W
    C. NA
    D. NA
    E. NA
    F. 180 DEG 124 KT ............. Strongest winds were from the south at 124KTS
    G. 089 DEG 18 NM .............. Winds in F were measured at this bearing and distance from center
    H. 931 MB ........................ Barometric pressure in eye
    I. 16 C/ 2200 M ................. Temp (at what al ude) outside eye
    J. 20 C/ 2653 M ................. Temp (at what al ude) inside eye. Large differences (like 10 or more degrees) show strong storms.
    K. 15 C/ NA ...................... Dewpoint inside eye. Low dewpoint = dry air = strong storm
    L. OPEN SE ....................... Eye is open to the SE
    M. C30 ............................. Eye is closed, radius 30 NM
    N. 12345/NA
    O. 1/1 NM
    P. NOAA2 WX18A RITA OB 05
    MAX FL WIND 124 KT E QUAD 1654Z
    FIX AT 8,700 FT PRESSURE AL UDE
    What a nice guy!

  22. #1297
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    A. 23/1700Z ..................... timestamp for this report (1700Z=12 Noon CDT)
    uhhh Travis...CST is Zulu minus 6...

    *edit* never mind...you did the daylight savings time correction...duhhh

  23. #1298
    Free Throw Coach Aggie Hoopsfan's Avatar
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    Well, there is something to be said about Darwinism, and staying behind in an area that will be under 15 feet of water to take care of your farking deer meat definitely qualifies.

  24. #1299
    Injured Reserve Vashner's Avatar
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    lol it's only good with bacon..

  25. #1300
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    Didn't you say a few posts ago that the people had lots of time to leave early?
    Yes, as in a couple of days.

    Yes, it's defeatism. We can orderly have 50,000 to 100,000 people leave a stadium in a relatively small area. Surely, we can do a couple million over a big city.
    That's out of a central confined area over a short distance.

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