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    ROFL cheap bas s

    Dallas should look to get him back. They need a backup PG (and a starting PG for half the games when Kyrie is out), and he played some of his best ball there.

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    When does Collins become tradeable? Would be great to package him and Graham this summer (I think Graham's contract becomes guaranteed on 7/1) tbh.

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    Quietly, Bulls did nothing, not even Caruso or a very good Drummond. DdR has maybe suggested he's staying.

    Anyway, to keep an eye on considering our pick from them starts next year. Doesn't look like a tear down certainly.

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    When does Collins become tradeable? Would be great to package him and Graham this summer (I think Graham's contract becomes guaranteed on 7/1) tbh.
    This offseason, but the Spurs would have to pay a good first to get rid of him (2 years @ about 35M... ouch). Better to wait until the '25 offseason when he becomes expiring, it'll be cheaper and that's the earliest the cap space will be needed IMO.

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    Can't believe we didn't move Graham.

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    This offseason, but the Spurs would have to pay a good first to get rid of him (2 years @ about 35M... ouch). Better to wait until the '25 offseason when he becomes expiring, it'll be cheaper and that's the earliest the cap space will be needed IMO.
    The only problem with waiting until the '25 offseason is that it means we'll have to suffer a full year of him playing meaningful minutes.

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    It was always better to trade for him in the off-season and continue our tankathon for the rest of the year.

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    I highly doubt spurs have to give up a first to trade Collins. I bet 2 2nds would get it done.

    Im guessing Morris and Graham both get waived

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    The only problem with waiting until the '25 offseason is that it means we'll have to suffer a full year of him playing meaningful minutes.
    Yeah, well... I think that ship has sailed, the FO screwed up with the kind of contract they gave him, nobody will take that without additional incentive.
    Another possibility is that he's flipped exactly a year from now (by the '25 trade deadline) for an expiring contract. That shouldn't be as expensive since it's only one year (though at a high price).

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    I highly doubt spurs have to give up a first to trade Collins. I bet 2 2nds would get it done.

    Im guessing Morris and Graham both get waived
    It's a horrendous contract, better players than him are making half his money, and his contract runs 2 more years. Not even a first would likely be enough if you try to trade them by this offseason.

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    It's a horrendous contract, better players than him are making half his money, and his contract runs 2 more years. Not even a first would likely be enough if you try to trade them by this offseason.
    I’ll take that bet

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    I’ll take that bet
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    It's a horrendous contract, better players than him are making half his money, and his contract runs 2 more years. Not even a first would likely be enough if you try to trade them by this offseason.
    I’d love to get in on that bet also…. His contract will serve its purpose Devonte graham made 12.5 mil this year and we crying over Zach? Come on bruh

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    This offseason, but the Spurs would have to pay a good first to get rid of him (2 years @ about 35M... ouch). Better to wait until the '25 offseason when he becomes expiring, it'll be cheaper and that's the earliest the cap space will be needed IMO.
    Packaging him with Graham who is only partially guaranteed before 7/1 makes Zollins' contract easier to swallow hence my question on exact timing when his contract becomes tradeable.

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    Dallas should look to get him back. They need a backup PG (and a starting PG for half the games when Kyrie is out), and he played some of his best ball there.

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    I highly doubt spurs have to give up a first to trade Collins. I bet 2 2nds would get it done.

    Im guessing Morris and Graham both get waived
    Graham's contract has value. Him being waived/bought out would be dumb AF but I wouldn't be surprised tbh.

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    YES!!!! We did nothing.

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    Graham's contract has value. Him being waived/bought out would be dumb AF but I wouldn't be surprised tbh.
    We will see, it’s possible. I was more thinking it was just doing right by him, but if SA has plans for a bigger trade in off season his contract may be useful then.

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    We will see, it’s possible. I was more thinking it was just doing right by him, but if SA has plans for a bigger trade in off season his contract may be useful then.
    If they wanted to do right by him then they should have traded him or bought him out earlier this season instead of killing any value outside of his contract by refusing to play him when they had a huge need at PG for the 1st half of the year.

    Buying him out now instead of trying to trade him again in the offseason (when other pieces become tradeable) would be super dumb

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    Buying out Graham so he can land with a playoff team would likely pan out about the same way waiving Stanley Johnson did.

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    We must really like Cedi; he’s a cool bench piece.

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    They likely won't be trading Collins. Given their patience level, they will wait for him to improve to how well he was playing last year. Granted, he was playing well iirc at the end of the season when everyone was tanking, so to me another reason not to trust end of season stats. But whatever. It's a two year deal.

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    Weird nobody took Grahama contract to clear their books for next season

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