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Sometimes I wonder if some of you are just trying to trigger people with your horrible takes or you're actually that clueless about the game of basketball.
He could work here if healthy; I’d love to see how this story turns out.
Sometimes I wonder if some of you are just trying to trigger people with your horrible takes or you're actually that clueless about the game of basketball.
My opinions are my opinions kind sir; we can compare opinions/takes if you likeZach could thrive next to a VM ( most talented players would ) type player and a coach demanding he play under more control/measured ( he played for pop at the Olympics ) Horrible enough Lebowen? A damn clown show in here
He's a massively bad contract at this point and the feeling is, as you say, they'll need to use assets to move him.
Zach Lavine is a 29 year old who has a terrible injury history.My opinions are my opinions kind sir; we can compare opinions/takes if you like
He plays no defense whatsoever, he's not good for anything other than being a streaky scorer.
And he'll make $136M over the next three seasons.
If you want to ruin our future by taking a flyer on Zach Lavine, idk what to tell you.
The absolute key to building a championship roster in this new CBA is finding players on team-friendly deals.
Please go look at this man’s last 5 yrs stats excluding last years injury year and tell me he wouldn’t be our second best player and he can handle the ball….. players get paid for his skill set; no ski mask necessary!
This. He's almost on Beal's level if not already there as a player who will most likely be untradeable unless a team is desperate for getting rid of their own horrible contract(s) players.
For reference and this was written before foot surgery at the end of this year:
LaVine recovered from a torn ACL in 2017 and an arthroscopic procedure on the same left knee in 2022 to be a durable player. He played 77 games last season (stat for 2022, only played 25 games in 2023/2024 season).
But LaVine now has three surgeries on his resume, along with $138 million remaining over the next three seasons of his maximum contract. He also has a 15 percent trade kicker that could be negotiated lower if needed to make a trade work.
Last edited by montgod; 06-07-2024 at 09:55 AM.
Would you prefer Devonte Graham, Keldon , Tre jones vs a healthy Zach? Same money damn near….
The only realistic trade I can see happening with him included is if Nets fail to get anyone relevant and Bulls decide to blow it up and take Simmons' expiring contract for Lavine.
Shooting guard is the only position Spurs shouldn't be looking at.
We got Devin, it's the easiest position to fill and is becoming obsolete in the modern NBA.
If you're under 6'7, noone cares if you can score 30 a night if you can't either defend or playmake really well.
It was the same money in tanking year, so it's irrelevant.
Devonte is done here, he's owed just $2M if Spurs don't pick up his option, which they won't.
And what if we get Lavine? You spend almost 30% of cap space on him. Then what? You play Wesley and Cissoko with him?
If Spurs decided to move Tre and Keldon in a package, they could easily get a late FRP and an expiring contract for them.
Noone's giving you for Lavine, that's how awful his value is.
Yes, I'd rather the first three cause there is still flexibility in moving them, having them available to actually play on a regular basis and still plan for the future w/no constraints. Side note, Devonte Graham is only owed 2m for this yr so there is that.
Healthy and Zach won't ever be put in the same sentence for the rest of his career unfortunately.
77 games out 82 last year is considered healthy….right? Stop with the hyperbole…. I’d take a healthy Zach….period
We got healthy Zach at home and look how that played out.
Let’s see here… a castle, devin, zach, sochan, wemby lineup couldn’t thrive? Not advocating this trade but it could work here…..Okc says hi
Alright, I'm done.
I often notice other users laugh at you and straight up refuse to engage with you because of your horrible takes, I give up.
Your'e either trolling or beyond help when it comes to understanding basketball.
Did you watch the game last night?
Even if you didn't, it doesn't take much basketball knowledge to understand that Sochan and Castle would be two non-shooters teams just ignore outside not just the 3pt line, but the paint.
Don't quote me anymore, idk what else to say.
Let’s not cherry-pick lol! We both know he’d be our second best player…cut it out!
Lavine played 25 games in 2023-2024.
Wright needs to get fired ASAP if the idea of trading for him even crosses his mind a millisecond.
Sigh….. my takes vs yours are here for all to see
Yeah I corrected the blurb I took from the article to show he only played 25 games last year - 2023-2024. And agreed, Wright wouldn't be here long if he did any kind of trade to compromise the outstanding position the Spurs are currently in to try and get a Lavine type player.
Keldon, Branham, 4, and 35 for Garland… final offer.
Spurs draft Devin Carter at 8
Sign Gary Trent Jr
Garland/Tre
Dev/Carter
Gary Trent/Julian/Sidy
Sochan/Mamu
Wemby/Zach/Dom
Fill out the rest of the roster.
Facts?Sigh….. my takes vs yours are here for all to see
Bulls started the season 5-14, with Lavine playing 35mpg and averaging 21ppg.
As soon as he went down, they went on a 4 game winning streak.
10-7 total before he came back.
Then 5-2 with him in the lineup, but those wins were against Hornets (x2), Spurs, Raptors and Rockets.
He played 35mpg and averaged 20ppg in those 7 games.
Aggrivated his injury and got shut down for the season, Bulls finished the season 19-20 without him.
10-16 with Lavine.
29-27 without him.
Out of those 10 wins with Lavine, exactly two were against playoff teams, Pacers and Heat.
Out of those 29 wins without Lavine, 14 were against playoff teams.
Anything else you'd like to know?
Last edited by LeBowen; 06-07-2024 at 11:32 AM.
I heard Sam Vecenie from the Game Theory podcast suggest this trade for Garland as well. Maybe including the 2025 CHI pick as a sweetener in the deal. Either way would 100% be down for that. Upgrading the point guard spot while maintaining the ATL picks is as good as it can get.
Again, not advocating for him here as it just doesn’t make sense for us but if Chicago really does just want to salary dump him and go rebuild mode I actually think there are playoff teams who would take the risk and attempt to eat that albatros of a contract AND offer Chicago a decent young player or lightly protected FRP but it might take adding Caruso to really get anything of substance in return.
Could see the Lakers putting together a package of their usually dog plus an FRP. If the Bulls do decide to blow it up would love if we made a run at Caruso. I feel like these are the type of deals we could be involved in to help facilitate in return for some veteran depth.
I recall Pop actually praising Lavine at the Olympics a few years back saying he wanted Lavine to focus on his defense in his role for team USA and Lavine willingly was locked in.
Tend to agree with Atl Spur that a healthy Lavine (big if) could mold into a solid role player
I’d actually be OK with the contract, especially in a year or two when the new media deal kicks in, if I weren’t convinced that his knee is ed.
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