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    either way, I guess Jews are sccrewed
    I didn't say that.

    God made a covenant specifically with the Jews. I don't believe Him to be an Indian Giver.

    Great Post DR.

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    and there you go.

    By no means does anyone have any right to ask someone to disprove that Adam and Eve was the true story written by Jews.
    Go ahead and ask...

    I'm simply stating MH can't claim for certain that Egyptians pre-dated Adam and Eve by any amount of time. What reference point is he using? He can't have it both ways. As in:

    Claim that they were made up.
    And then proceed to say that A or B civilization pre-dated them by x-many years.

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    I am still waiting on someone to explain Scientology(tm).
    Let me give it a shot:

    $ $ $ $

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    Wrong!

    The verse I quoted* states that creation itself stand as a testimony of God's goodness and His existence and that therefore there is no excuse for anyone who refuses to acknowledge the presence of God.

    * Romans 1;19-20- Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
    For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse
    sigh.

    I'll ask you again, for I think the third time.....

    a simple yes or no answer would be really nice....

    Is or isn't belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and announcing Him as Lord and Savior a necessary component of salvation?

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    It matters. A lot. It's time to put down the fairy tales and move on as a scientific community.

    You KNOW the history. Roman Catholic church burned and destroyed all sorts of human history. People were murdered, mass scale, for this ridiculous belief system.

    We still suffer from the problem. Look at Hamas and Israel. All over that land promised by God to 2 different peoples. Each thinks THEY are the chosen ones.

    Look at all of the people who get brainwashed into becoming terrorists and crash into buildings because the afterlife has 72 virgins waiting for them.

    Look at stem cell research and how this country hasn't been able to get into it because of a god. Look at abortion debates.

    It's a real problem. We need to get over it already. People need to learn how to be GOOD BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND not because God says so or you go to .

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    I am still waiting on someone to explain Scientology(tm).
    You give the religion* money and you become happy, or some .

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    My God this thread just keeps going and going.
    That is an ironic choice of words. Good one.

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    sigh.

    I'll ask you again, for I think the third time.....

    a simple yes or no answer would be really nice....

    Is or isn't belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and announcing Him as Lord and Savior a necessary component of salvation?
    For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life - John 3:16
    Sounds like a promise to many, not a condemnation to the rest.

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    Wrong!

    The verse I quoted* states that creation itself stand as a testimony of God's goodness and His existence and that therefore there is no excuse for anyone who refuses to acknowledge the presence of God.

    * Romans 1;19-20- Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
    For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse
    This has been asked before but I'll ask again. What of the child that was raised in the wilderness by a pack of wolves?

    Equation???

    Really?

    Unless you are talking about Kepler's law of planetary motion (with Newton's correction factors).

    Or about stellar motion (as defined by the latest Hubble observations - before it broke down).

    Those were hardly "equations" to anything... Your mathematical bar must be set rather low, if you consider your statements as mathematical expressions to anything.... No wonder you just 'brushed' off the statistical significance of Jesus having embodied 300+ (363?) Messianic prophecies. The odds are staggeringly full-proof. Only the mathematically illiterate would do what you did and consider it 'faith, gospel-talk'. The statistical significance of such a historical match to a prescribed list is mind-blowing.

    Surely your arguments were based on more than just ill-researched lies posted somewhere on the net.
    My mathematical bar is low because there was no need for it to be higher. Simple addition, subtraction, division and mulitiplication can be used to map out significant dates and moments in the mans life. Had the math been complicated I might have dug deeper. It just wasn't.

    WAIT: God made it simple...YES?

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    You give the religion money and you become happy, or some .
    Actually they exercise the ghosts of a long dead alien race that cling to your soul and cause you to be unhappy and other problems.

    No, I am not making that s*** up.

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    Go ahead and ask...

    I'm simply stating MH can't claim for certain that Egyptians pre-dated Adam and Eve by any amount of time. What reference point is he using? He can't have it both ways. As in:

    Claim that they were made up.
    And then proceed to say that A or B civilization pre-dated them by x-many years.
    Actually, "Star Wars" is real. Sure, it was 'written' in the 20th century by George Lucas BUT! it was a real account. "A long time ago...in a galaxy far far away.."

    It was real. It doesn't matter that recorded history says it was written in the 20th century.

    How do you know that it wasn't ancient?

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    Actually they exercise the ghosts of a long dead alien race that cling to your soul and cause you to be unhappy and other problems.

    No, I am not making that s*** up.
    Sounds like a tax haven for a certain science fiction writer.

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    What I *don't* know about Scientology is what they believe happens to you after you die, or if you are a non-believer.

    In 2000 years will people be having conversations about the historicity of Ron Hubbard?

    I wonder.

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    I've got to hand it to you. After seeing ES.


    Let's take a look at claims made by those who deny the facts :

    Click on words for link.


    Claim #1 - Isis was not a virgin

    First, we have to understand how the ancient egyptians lived. They worshipped over 2,000 Gods. They had different versions/accounts/stories for the same Gods in different areas around Egypt. They did not have -1- canonical religion like you are familiar with. When you read an account of Horus' birth, just remember you are reading one account. There are several different stories.

    ALL of the Horus birth stories involve a miraculous birth.

    1) In one account, Isis is impregnated by "a flash of lightning" and in another account "begotten by a ray of light from heaven". She gives birth to Horus/Apis. Apis is an Egyptian Bull God that is another form of Osiris, they are associated as one and the same. He is most famous for being worshipped by the Israelites as a "Golden Calf" after they leave Egypt and while Moses is on Mt. Sinai.

    So. Isis gives birth to Apis (Osiris/Horus) "begotten by a ray of light from heaven". Virgin birth.

    There are more accounts, however, but they all involve some sort of miraculous birth. The one I have given however, is a virgin birth.

    There is even many accounts of Virgin Queens and Mothers, such as Mut-Em-Usa, the VIRGIN QUEEN OF EGYPT.

    You have heard of the QUEEN OF SHEEBA. She was famous for her chas y aka VIRGINITY. She ruled Ethiopia, which would be part of Egypt, around 960 BC.

    Virgin women of importance is nothing new to the Egyptians.


    Claim #2 - Isis-Meri does not exist so it didn't influence "Mary"

    Isis is one of the original Mother Goddess. She too, had many forms. She was worshipped for THOUSANDS of years and was only surpassed by the Virgin Mary.

    Isis is not her ONLY name obviously, since the egyptians worshipped many forms of Isis, the Mother Goddess.
    'Goddess of Many Names' / 'Queen of the Gods'

    She is also known as Aset, Ast, Est, Meri-En-Sakar, and many others.

    One of Isis' forms was the Goddess of Nature and Harvest - MERI-EN-SAKAR. They are all forms of ISIS, the Mother.

    Isis ultimately absorbed and represented hundreds of different goddesses, all forms of the Mother, ISIS. Her worship survived until around the 6th century CE.


    Claim #3 - The 'Mother of God' Mary in Christianity did not copy/borrow/steal from Isis the Mother of God

    To quote from this source :

    "When Christianity was spreading across the Empire, it's clear that it deliberately took images from the pagan world in which it lived and into which it spread and used those images. Old holy wells and shrines were turned into Christian shrines. In Egypt a shrine of Isis was deliberately and self-consciously re-created as a shrine of Mary."



    The connections are so similar, sometimes scholars can't even tell if they are looking at Mary or Isis.



    Claim #4 - December 25 was not celebrated by Ancient Egyptians as the birth of Horus/Osiris

    This is an Ancient Egyptian Calendar

    "Birth of Heru (Horus) the child of Aset (Isis) ; Going forth of Wadjet singing in Heliopolis;Day of Elevating the Great Netjert (Goddess) in all Her names & manifestations"


    Jesus' birth day is NEVER mentioned in the Bible, however it too is celebrated on Dec. 25th once again, to coincide with this ancient worship of the Sun. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Horus, Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.


    Claim #5 - Horus' birth is not heralded by a Star in the East as Jesus was

    The Star in the East is known as Sirius. Sirius is the brightest star in the sky, almost twice as bright as the next brightest star. Sirius was an important star for the ancient egyptians. They based their calendar around Siirus. They called it "the going up of the goddess Sothis". Sothis/Sirius has always been identified with Isis.

    Ok. So, the Star in The East/Isis heralds the birth of the Sun/Son of God Horus.


    Claim #6 - Isis/Horus/Osiris are not the original "holy trinity"

    Isis is the Mother of God, the Great Mother Goddess.
    Horus is the Son of Osiris/ Son of God
    Osiris is the Father, "Judge of the Dead in the Afterlife"

    Yeah. Apparently, Osiris was judging the dead well before Jehovah.

    They are the original Holy Trinity.

    Osiris' worship was still widespread until around 388 CE, when Theodosius (the last roman emperor) declared Nicene Christianity the official state religion and began punishing all other religious practices.


    OOps. guess Extra Stout's ass is 'kicked up and down this thread'

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    sigh.

    I'll ask you again, for I think the third time.....

    a simple yes or no answer would be really nice....

    Is or isn't belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and announcing Him as Lord and Savior a necessary component of salvation?
    I'm sorry for anyway in which I was unclear.

    Yes, you must.

    Romans 10:8-10
    But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.

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    It matters. A lot. It's time to put down the fairy tales and move on as a scientific community.
    ??????

    The vast majority of Scientific advances throughout history have come from Believers.

    I promise you I will go to bed with one tonight who is doing a of a lot more to advance science (one of the authors of this - yes that is NATURE!) than your forum inhabiting self.

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    Sounds like a tax haven for a certain science fiction writer.
    Except for the fact that he is dead. Unless you are a Scientologist, then they just think he is hiding or something, but for the rest of us, we know where he is buried.

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    I am still waiting on someone to explain Scientology(tm).
    This is beyond me. It just goes to show you how easy it is to create a religion. these thumpers on here scream about how its impossible to create a myth in such a short period of time.

    Look no further. It has quite a following.

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    What I *don't* know about Scientology is what they believe happens to you after you die, or if you are a non-believer.

    In 2000 years will people be having conversations about the historicity of Ron Hubbard?

    I wonder.
    Tom Cruise 2,000 years from now :

    Listen, scientology is the one true religion. It says so right here in our sacred text.

    PROVE. ME. WRONG.

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    Let's take a look at claims made by those who deny the facts :

    Click on words for link.


    Claim #1 - Isis was not a virgin

    First, we have to understand how the ancient egyptians lived. They worshipped over 2,000 Gods. They had different versions/accounts/stories for the same Gods in different areas around Egypt. They did not have -1- canonical religion like you are familiar with. When you read an account of Horus' birth, just remember you are reading one account. There are several different stories.

    ALL of the Horus birth stories involve a miraculous birth.

    1) In one account, Isis is impregnated by "a flash of lightning" and in another account "begotten by a ray of light from heaven". She gives birth to Horus/Apis. Apis is an Egyptian Bull God that is another form of Osiris, they are associated as one and the same. He is most famous for being worshipped by the Israelites as a "Golden Calf" after they leave Egypt and while Moses is on Mt. Sinai.

    So. Isis gives birth to Apis (Osiris/Horus) "begotten by a ray of light from heaven". Virgin birth.

    There are more accounts, however, but they all involve some sort of miraculous birth. The one I have given however, is a virgin birth.

    There is even many accounts of Virgin Queens and Mothers, such as Mut-Em-Usa, the VIRGIN QUEEN OF EGYPT.

    You have heard of the QUEEN OF SHEEBA. She was famous for her chas y aka VIRGINITY. She ruled Ethiopia, which would be part of Egypt, around 960 BC.

    Virgin women of importance is nothing new to the Egyptians.


    Claim #2 - Isis-Meri does not exist so it didn't influence "Mary"

    Isis is one of the original Mother Goddess. She too, had many forms. She was worshipped for THOUSANDS of years and was only surpassed by the Virgin Mary.

    Isis is not her ONLY name obviously, since the egyptians worshipped many forms of Isis, the Mother Goddess.
    'Goddess of Many Names' / 'Queen of the Gods'

    She is also known as Aset, Ast, Est, Meri-En-Sakar, and many others.

    One of Isis' forms was the Goddess of Nature and Harvest - MERI-EN-SAKAR. They are all forms of ISIS, the Mother.

    Isis ultimately absorbed and represented hundreds of different goddesses, all forms of the Mother, ISIS. Her worship survived until around the 6th century CE.


    Claim #3 - The 'Mother of God' Mary in Christianity did not copy/borrow/steal from Isis the Mother of God

    To quote from this source :

    "When Christianity was spreading across the Empire, it's clear that it deliberately took images from the pagan world in which it lived and into which it spread and used those images. Old holy wells and shrines were turned into Christian shrines. In Egypt a shrine of Isis was deliberately and self-consciously re-created as a shrine of Mary."



    The connections are so similar, sometimes scholars can't even tell if they are looking at Mary or Isis.



    Claim #4 - December 25 was not celebrated by Ancient Egyptians as the birth of Horus/Osiris

    This is an Ancient Egyptian Calendar

    "Birth of Heru (Horus) the child of Aset (Isis) ; Going forth of Wadjet singing in Heliopolis;Day of Elevating the Great Netjert (Goddess) in all Her names & manifestations"


    Jesus' birth day is NEVER mentioned in the Bible, however it too is celebrated on Dec. 25th once again, to coincide with this ancient worship of the Sun. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Horus, Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.


    Claim #5 - Horus' birth is not heralded by a Star in the East as Jesus was

    The Star in the East is known as Sirius. Sirius is the brightest star in the sky, almost twice as bright as the next brightest star. Sirius was an important star for the ancient egyptians. They based their calendar around Siirus. They called it "the going up of the goddess Sothis". Sothis/Sirius has always been identified with Isis.

    Ok. So, the Star in The East/Isis heralds the birth of the Sun/Son of God Horus.


    Claim #6 - Isis/Horus/Osiris are not the original "holy trinity"

    Isis is the Mother of God, the Great Mother Goddess.
    Horus is the Son of Osiris/ Son of God
    Osiris is the Father, "Judge of the Dead in the Afterlife"

    Yeah. Apparently, Osiris was judging the dead well before Jehovah.

    They are the original Holy Trinity.

    Osiris' worship was still widespread until around 388 CE, when Theodosius (the last roman emperor) declared Nicene Christianity the official state religion and began punishing all other religious practices.


    OOps. guess Extra Stout's ass is 'kicked up and down this thread'

    Here you go. I know Wikipedia as well. Great site.

    Milton Teagle Simmons (born July 12, 1948),[1] known professionally as Richard Simmons, is an American fitness personality who promotes weight-loss programs, most famously through a line of aerobics videos and television programs.

    Contents [hide]
    1 Early life
    2 Fitness career
    2.1 Media appearances
    2.2 Fitness work in recent years
    2.3 Fitness plans and marketing
    3 Personal life
    3.1 Personality
    3.2 Hurricane Katrina response
    4 Popular culture
    5 Print and media
    5.1 Books
    5.2 Audio
    5.2.1 Audio cassette
    5.2.2 Compact discs
    5.2.3 Vinyl record
    5.3 Visual media
    5.3.1 DVDs
    5.4 Video cassette
    6 References
    7 Notes
    8 External links



    Early life
    Richard Simmons was born in New Orleans, Louisiana.[1] Simmons was raised in the French Quarter of New Orleans, Louisiana, and attended Cor Jesu High School (now Brother Martin High School[1]). He suffered from obesity throughout his adolescence and by the time he graduated from high school, he weighed 268 pounds.

    His first job, in New Orleans, was selling pralines. Simmons also briefly considered becoming a priest.[2] After starting college at the University of Southwestern Louisiana, he transferred to Florida State University. While enrolled there, he studied as an exchange student in Florence, Italy. He graduated with a BA in Art. After graduation, Simmons moved to New York City where he worked in advertising, as a waiter, and for cosmetics companies Revlon and Coty Cosmetics.


    Fitness career
    Upon moving to Los Angeles in the 1970s, Simmons worked as the Maître d' at a restaurant in Beverly Hills. He developed an interest in fitness, but was dissatisfied with the unhealthy fad diet methods[clarification needed] and established gyms and exercise studios of the day which favored the already fit customer. It was his interest in fitness that helped him lose 123 lb (56 kg).

    Simmons later opened his own exercise studio, originally called The Anatomy Asylum, where emphasis was placed on healthy eating in proper portions and enjoyable exercise. The business originally included a salad bar restaurant called "Ruf e," (the name a pun on the word Roughage), though it was eventually removed as the focus of the Asylum shifted solely to exercise[citation needed]. Now called Slimmons, the establishment continues operations in Beverly Hills, and Simmons teaches motivational classes and aerobics throughout the week[citation needed].


    Media appearances
    With his health club a success, Simmons began to draw media attention, beginning with an appearance on the television show Real People where he was shown at work. He introduced customers whom he had helped to lose weight. He later made guest appearances on the celebrity game shows Win, Lose or Draw and Nickelodeon's Figure It Out.

    Positive viewer reaction landed Simmons a recurring role as himself on the American soap opera General Hospital [3], over a four-year period.[4] This in turn led to further media notoriety, as well as personal appearances in shopping malls, where he taught exercise classes. In the early 1980s, Simmons hosted two shows; Slim Cookin, and an Emmy Award winning talk show, The Richard Simmons Show, in which he focused on personal health, fitness, exercise, and healthy cooking.

    Simmons has appeared as himself on numerous TV shows, including Whose Line Is It Anyway?, CHiPs, Saturday Night Live, and on an episode of Arrested Development, "Bringing Up Buster". In 1999, he hosted a short lived TV show called DreamMaker. Eight years later he filmed a pledge drive special for PBS, called Love Yourself And Win,.

    Simmons has been featured in TV advertisements for Sprint, Yoplait, Herbal Essence Shampoos, and toward the end of 2007, he appeared in a "This is SportsCenter" commercial on ESPN as the show's "conditioning coach." In Canada, Simmons appeared in an advertisement for Simmons' mattresses. The mattress company hired the exercise celebrity because of the similarity in name, and for his appeal to the company's target audience of women over 35[citation needed]. Beyond this, there is no further business partnership between the two.

    Richard Simmons currently hosts a radio show on Sirius Stars, Sirius Satellite Radio channel 102, called Lighten Up with Richard Simmons.


    Fitness work in recent years
    Simmons has begun a campaign to get physical education incorporated into the No Child Left Behind Act[citation needed]. He met with U.S. Representative George Miller, the chairman of the House education committee, in the hope of winning support for a plan to have elementary schools provide 150 minutes of PE each week. In November 16, 2006, Simmons appeared on the Today Show to announce his "Ask America" crusade to get PE incorporated in public schools as a required course. Simmons asked viewers complete surveys, which he would use to pe ion policy makers in Washington DC[citation needed].


    Fitness plans and marketing
    Marketing fitness plans has also brought notoriety to Simmons' message of healthy living. Live It, his first marketed weight loss plan was explained in his first book Never Say Diet. He has since written several more books and produced weight loss plans including the Deal A Meal and FoodMover plans, both of which were advertised in infomercial campaigns. On Carnival Cruise Lines, he hosts the Cruise to Lose program.

    A fitness training program was developed to teach The Simmons Method to fitness instructors. Training is provided at Hoot Camp, which is held in Beverly Hills, and is approved by the Aerobics and Fitness Association of America (AFAA). The program allows AFAA-certified instructors to earn continuing education[clarification needed]. Hoot Camp has also been held in Saint Joseph, Missouri. Simmons also travels the United States teaching his program, and he has been known to spend time on the phone with students of his programs[citation needed].

    In 2006, Simmons collaborated with Salton to produce a food steamer called "Steam Heat".


    Personal life

    Personality
    Simmons is notable for his high-energy, motivational demeanor, an attribute he often uses to help encourage people to lose weight. His trademark attire is candy-striped Dolfin shorts and tank tops decorated with Swarovski crystals. Simmons is also known for his flamboyancy.

    Simmons has always been known for his "personal touch," interacting at a personal level with the people using his products. This began when he started personally answering fan mail he received while a cast member of General Hospital. As a self-described devout Catholic, Simmons still personally answers emails and letters, and makes hundreds of phone calls each week to those who seek his help. [5] He also talks to people on the air during his radio show, and holds weekly live chats in the "clubhouse" area of his website. His appearances also include a "meet and greet" time, so that people can speak to him one on one.

    Simmons claims to have few friends saying, "I don't have a lot to offer one person. I have a lot to offer to a lot of people." Aside from his three Dalmatians and two maids, Simmons lives alone in the Hollywood Hills. [6]


    Hurricane Katrina response
    In September 2005 Simmons appeared on Entertainment Tonight to discuss the effects of Hurricane Katrina on his family in his hometown of New Orleans and his involvement in aiding those affected by the hurricane. On August 29, 2006 Simmons appeared on Your World with Neil Cavuto while making a return visit to New Orleans one year after the flooding, a visit he repeated on March 2, 2007, now talking about his recent trip to Washington D.C. to promote and raise awareness about The Strengthening Physical Education Act of 2007 (bill HR 1224).


    Popular culture
    Simmons has become well known throughout North American culture, to the point that he has been referenced in many culture-based shows, be they animation, live-action or talk shows:

    A deleted scene in The Simpsons' episode "Burns' Heir" featured a robotic Richard Simmons used by Montgomery Burns as security. Simmons was planned to voice the character, but refused to portray a robotic version of himself, so Dan Castellaneta took the role instead. The scene was cut when it did not get a response from test audiences. The scene was instead shown in the later episode "The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular."
    In Family Guy episode "Death Is a ", a drunken Peter Griffin proves his immortality by taunting scary looking bikers with the questions "Hey, aren't you Richard Simmons?" and "Aren't you Richard Simmons' best friend, Richard Simmons?".
    Simmons was a frequent guest on The Howard Stern Show in the 1990s. He refused to appear after Stern insulted him one too many times. Simmons finally reappeared on Stern's show on November 16, 2006.[7]
    Simmons was also a frequent guest on Late Night with David Letterman (NBC) and The Late Show with David Letterman (CBS).[8] On November 22, 2000, they had a falling out after an incident that occurred on that night's show. Simmons (while dressed as a turkey) was sprayed in the face by Letterman with a fire extinguisher after Simmons grabbed Letterman as if to hug or kiss him, causing Simmons to have a severe asthma attack.[9] Simmons did not appear on the Letterman show for six years, finally returning on November 29, 2006. During that appearance, Letterman once again set Simmons up for a prank. While Richard Simmons was demonstrating a steamer branded with his name, Letterman insisted on placing a tray under the steamer which Simmons did not believe belonged there. When Simmons turned the steamer on, something in the tray exploded and started burning. Though initially scared, Simmons took the incident in fairly good nature, even joking that he "felt like Michael Jackson" (referring to a mishap where Jackson's hair was set on fire by a malfunctioning light.)[10]
    An animated version of Simmons appeared in a Johnny Bravo episode as a man who used to bully Johnny when they were kids.[11]
    In an episode of Rocko's Modern Life Rocko and Heffer went to a gym where a workout assistant resembled Richard Simmons. In fact, Richard Simmons voiced this character, evident in the credits. And that character returned in a TV commercial in the show in a commercial that said, "Sweatin in your undies." This second appearance did not feature a voice with the character.
    In the episode Waking Nightmare of The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, a Richard Simmons is sent to wake up Mandy.
    In Legally Blonde: the Musical, the character of Elle Woods has a line referring to Simmons, saying "I'm not exactly trailer trash here, Richard Simmons is our neighbor!"
    He is shot to death in the short Bring Me the Head of Charlie Brown.
    Simmons (or an impersonator, it is unclear which) appears on the Bob Rivers album More Twisted Christmas on two songs: "It's the Most Fattening Time of the Year" and on the "Buttcracker Suite."
    Simmons has been a guest on the US version of Whose Line is it Anyway?. He has also been impersonated on the show. One notable impersonation was during a game of Weird Newscasters, when Wayne Brady was to do the sports news in the style of Simmons.
    Simmons has appeared multiple times on The Glenn Beck Program on CNN Headline News.
    An episode of the anime Hoshi no Kirby features an exercise instructor Demon Beast that resembles Richard Simmons.

    Print and media

    Books
    Never Say Diet ISBN 0-517-40284-X
    Never Say Diet Cookbook
    The Better Body Book
    Reach for Fitness: A Special Book of Exercises for the Physically Challenged Warner Books 1986 ISBN 0-446-51302-4
    Deal-A-Meal Cookbook
    Richard Simmons' Never Give Up: Inspirations, Reflections, Stories of Hope Warner Books, 1984 ISBN 0-446-60085-7
    Farewell to Fat Atlantic Books 2002 ISBN 1-57719-102-1
    Sweetie Pie
    Still Hungry After All These Years: My Story Gt Pub Corp 1999 ISBN 1-57719-356-3
    The FoodMover Cookbook
    Cookin' on Broadway
    Steam Away the Pounds

    Audio

    Audio cassette
    Project Me (six tape set)
    Sweatin' and Sharin'
    Colors of Your Life (single tape)
    Colors of Your Life (six tape set)
    Take a Walk
    Take a Hike
    Take a Classical Walk
    Walk Across America
    Walkin' on Broadway
    Walk Around the World
    Never Give Up (book on tape, read by Simmons)

    Compact discs
    Richard Picks the Hits, Volume 1
    Richard Picks the Hits, Volume 2
    Country Cardio
    Oh Happy Day
    Fitness Fiesta
    Wicked Workout
    Big Screen Burn
    Shimmy Into Shape
    In the Mood to Lose
    Classical Chillout

    Vinyl record
    Reach (Elektra Records, 1983)

    Visual media

    DVDs
    Richard Simmons and the Silver Foxes
    Disco Sweat
    60's Blast Off
    80's Blast Off
    SuperSweatin': Party Off the Pounds
    SuperTonin': Totally Tonin
    SuperTonin': Totally Tonin' with Toning Rings
    Sit Tight
    Sweatin'to the Oldies
    Sweatin' to the Oldies 2
    Sweatin' to the Oldies 3
    Sweatin' to the Oldies 4
    Love Yourself and Win

    Video cassette
    Everyday with Richard Simmons
    The Stomach Formula
    Get Started
    Reach for Fitness
    Richard Simmons and the Silver Foxes
    Sweatin' to the Oldies
    Sweatin' to the Oldies 2
    Sweatin' to the Oldies 3
    Sweat and Shout (also sold as Sweatin to the Oldies 4)
    Day By Day (Volumes 1-12)
    Pump and Sweat
    Step and Sweat
    Tone and Sweat
    Disco Sweat
    Stretchin' to the Classics
    Dance Your Pants Off!
    Tonin' Uptown
    Tonin' Downtown
    Groovin' In The House
    The Ab Formula
    No Ifs Ands or Butts
    Love to Stretch
    Blast Off
    Broadway Sweat
    Tone Up On Broadway
    Broadway Blast Off
    Platinum Sweat
    Sit Tight
    Latin Blast Off (also marketed as Sudar Mucho)
    Mega Mix Blast Off
    Mega Mix 2 Blast Off
    Disco Blast Off
    60's Blast Off
    80's Blast Off
    Blast and Tone

    References
    Richard Simmons 2006 Interview on Sidewalks Entertainment
    Richard Simmons discusses his physical education campaign with education blogger Kevin Carey
    Richard Simmons audio interview on physical education at Education Week
    Interview with Richard Simmons
    Richard Simmons Pushes to Get Kids Active in School interview with USA Today.
    Fitness Guru Takes Message to Congress on NPR.

    Notes
    ^ a b c d "Richard Simmons". IMDb. Retrieved on 2008-03-07.
    ^ Chandler, Rick (January 19, 2007). "Church of Richard Simmons: Fitness advocate leads workout at Stateline". Tahoe Daily Tribune. Retrieved on 2007-02-09.
    ^ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0799873/
    ^ http://www.richardsimmons.com/j/inde...d=15&Itemid=80
    ^ Pang, Kevin (2008-06-04). ""The many secrets of Richard Simmons"". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved on 2008-06-04.
    ^ Pang, Kevin (2008-06-04). ""The many secrets of Richard Simmons"". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved on 2008-06-04.
    ^ McShane, Larry (2007-02-07). "Stars cross paths at Sirius studios", North Jersey Media Group. Retrieved on 10 February 2007.
    ^ Richard Simmons (I)
    ^ McIntee, Michael Z. (December 26, 2006). "Show #2661". CBS Late Show with David Letterman. Retrieved on 2007-02-09.
    ^ Richard Simmons Steamer: richard simmons exploding steamer hilarious david letterman clip
    ^ Johnny Bravo: Get Shovelized! / T Is For Trouble - TV.com

    External links
    The official Richard Simmons website
    Richard Simmons is a Diet and Fitness Coach at AOL Coaches
    Richard Simmons at the Internet Movie Database
    Richard Simmons at NNDB
    Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Simmons"
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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Go ahead and ask...

    I'm simply stating MH can't claim for certain that Egyptians pre-dated Adam and Eve by any amount of time. What reference point is he using?
    , even if you see something with your own eyes, you can't claim anything for 100% certain.

    He's referring to works that suggest that the stories written about Jesus supernatural works are stories and ideas that have already circulated beforehand in other writings from other cultures.

    I've seen some pretty good rebuttal posts by I Love Me Some Me in regards to some of the Egyptian stuff that MH has posted, but at the end of the day, nobody has proven anything one way or the other.

    It's the ol' "prove Jesus exists" line followed by the "oh yeah? well prove he doesn't" arguments that have been blown up to full scale round and round page after page.

    Nobody has anything but faith based on some old writings that have been picked through and sorted out by men, some of who had financial agendas. End of story.

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    This thread has lost its luster, it was cooler some pages ago.

    Look, athiests (myself included) need to get over how religious people view the world. Youre just going to have to accept that there are A LOT of people in this world who believe in imaginary men in the sky. Who through omnipotence, created every facet of every argument you could ever fathom to claim his nonexistence.

    That there faith is so true and so real, we should teach alternatives to testable, provable science in public schools.

    I aim this entire post at athiests because, honestly, these sorts of thread/topics are not perpetuated by the religious. They only respond to open criticism, as any self respecting human should.

    Its fine, really. I mean, lets really take stock in what the debate is here.

    In what way do the religious/athiest negatively affect my life? Right?

    Athiests
    Public schools and what their children are taught as fact or at least, arguable.
    Political importance assigned to a belief you do not hold.
    etc.

    Religious
    Lack of religious doctrine in juxtaposition to the scientific theories you hold as objectional.
    Lack of morality in societal life (entertainment, interaction, appearance...basically a catch all)
    etc

    Ultimately ladies and gentlemen, this entire argument has the same equivalence to most people's response to something they dont like on televsion.

    Change the ing channel.

    Dont get me wrong, some (I would hope most) in this thread are just doing some verbal/intellectual sparring for the pure sport of it. Thats your business, so disregard if this applies to you (usually, this is me).

    But for those who actually consider this an important topic and worth the attempt to change minds and influence people need to wake the up and change the channel.

    First and foremost, if you have an opinion then that opinion will be given and repeated to your children. They will question their teachers on the important "taught in schools" issue and rightfully so. Now, if that debate between teacher/student causes controversy, thats a seperate issue entirely.

    The lack of morality, which is an argument I rarely hear from the religious, its more just an opinion with no actionable method to address.

    So really, what are you arguing about?

    Change the ing channel. Some people's favorite color is blue, you prefer red. Deal with the difference, even if his preference for blue seems to tread on your sight lines from time to time.

    Ultimately, it doesnt matter who is right, or even close.

    If there is a God, and my salvation depends solely upon believing the words of other humans....then it was a setup to begin with. No God, low or high, would expect one human to trust another about anything, especially something as important as His existence. We are skeptical by nature because humans lie every 6 sentences. Yet He would expect me to ignore that truth about something as profound as this?!

    No....God may be many things to many people, but one trait I would not associate with the Creator of Everything is illogic. He would totally understand, sorry if that offends some of you, especially the charlatans.
    Well done. I don't want religion in the public school system. That is for private schools. I don't push my religion on anyone but as you stated I will defend it when pushed. I've had more than my share of attacks on Catholicism and I just shrug it off and go on because it never effects my personal faith at all. If you choose not to believe and think it is all imaginary and fake then so be it. Move on!!!!

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    I promise you I will go to bed with one tonight who is doing a of a lot more to advance science (one of the authors of this - yes that is NATURE!) than your forum inhabiting self.
    she's one of the 'very few' scientists who believe in god. so your whole family is nuts, i get it.

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    Ultimately ladies and gentlemen, this entire argument has the same equivalence to most people's response to something they dont like on televsion.

    Change the ing channel.

    But for those who actually consider this an important topic and worth the attempt to change minds and influence people need to wake the up and change the channel.
    Sagely sooth, DR.


    solely upon believing the words of other humans[/b]....then it was a setup to begin with. No God, low or high, would expect one human to trust another about anything, especially something as important as His existence. We are skeptical by nature because humans lie every 6 sentences. Yet He would expect me to ignore that truth about something as profound as this?!
    Kierkegaard addresses this.( See "Fork", about 80% down; see also the cartoon at the bottom) It's a volitional leap in the dark, from the hard ground of absurdity. It's not for everyone, to be sure.

    If not, change the ing channel.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 01-07-2009 at 03:37 PM.

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    What I *don't* know about Scientology is what they believe happens to you after you die, or if you are a non-believer.

    In 2000 years will people be having conversations about the historicity of Ron Hubbard?

    I wonder.
    No, some dude will have an old copy of Dianetics on Antiques Roadshow.

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