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    We all take Mills for granted, but the reality is, he's just turned 27 and has still room for improving, particularly if he can make those Tony Parker layups.
    Not I. Luxury tax or no luxury tax, I thought the Spurs were insane to consider getting rid of Mills, who is making a very affordable $3M (If the reports are true).
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    Not I. Luxury tax or no luxury tax, I thought the Spurs were insane to consider getting rid of Mills, who is making a very affordable $3M (If the reports are true).
    He definitely could have received more from other teams after that great championship performance. But it's just typical Spurs players, pay cut to stay in the team.
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    I wasn't making a Jimmer vs. Mills speed comparison. But 3.10 to 3.21 is not that big a difference if we're going there.
    It's pretty big if you spend time looking at speed times for combines.

    Not a reach at all. Shorter guys traditionally do much better at running lines for a reason.
    And they tend to do better on turns and whatnot. Mills is just faster than Jimmer. And it matters.
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    It's pretty big if you spend time looking at speed times for combines.



    And they tend to do better on turns and whatnot. Mills is just faster than Jimmer. And it matters.
    I agree with that, it does matter that Mills is faster and works harder than Jimmer.

    Can Jimmer shoot better than Patty?
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    The only other reason I can think of signing him this early is also for trade purposes. Maybe the Spurs thought they could also use his salary along with Reggie Williams in a trade if needed? Isn't the minimum time you can trade someone after signing him 3 months? or would the Spurs not do that to someone they just signed?
    It's the latest between 3 months and December 15th for a player like Fredette. Signing him in July or mid September is the same trade-wise.

    It's just that 3 weeks into the offseason, Spurs decided that Fredette was their guy for that perimeter shooter spot they were looking to fill. Anderson's and Simmons' good summer league has likely influenced Spurs search for that shooter but I'm sure Fredette wasn't the only one fine with "you will have to compete with these 2 players for a spot in the rotation".
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    It's pretty big if you spend time looking at speed times for combines.



    And they tend to do better on turns and whatnot. Mills is just faster than Jimmer. And it matters.
    TBH, I've never watched Jimmer and Patty and considered either one fast. Jimmer had one of the better verticals at his combine (better than Kawhi). I've never considered him a leaper.

    And it's not like Mills is dribbling circles around anyone or shooting out like a bullet on fast breaks. Any alleged speed he has is negligible due to his lack of handles.
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    It's the latest between 3 months and December 15th for a player like Fredette. Signing him in July or mid September is the same trade-wise.

    It's just that 3 weeks into the offseason, Spurs decided that Fredette was their guy for that perimeter shooter spot they were looking to fill. Anderson's and Simmons' good summer league has likely influenced Spurs search for that shooter but I'm sure Fredette wasn't the only one fine with "you will have to compete with these 2 players for a spot in the rotation".
    The widely held belief at this point is that Anderson, Simmons, Fredette all have secured spots. Reggie Williams had his chance and didn't impress. He is likely out the door b/c his contract is not partially guaranteed. And the other guys are auditioning for other teams or are otherwise d-league bound.
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    I agree with that, it does matter that Mills is faster and works harder than Jimmer.

    Can Jimmer shoot better than Patty?
    Jimmer does the work in the off season (as does Patty).

    Mills has been a very consistent and high quality shooter for the Spurs since he came onto the scene. There was some drop-off coming off the shoulder injury; but he had it going by the playoffs. I have no complaints about Patty's shooting. Still, it's a fair question as to whether Jimmer can shoot even better. In fact, that'll be something fun to keep our eyes on. I wouldn't bet on either outcome. Too many variables. But it'll be fun to see.
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    The widely held belief at this point is that Anderson, Simmons, Fredette all have secured spots. Reggie Williams had his chance and didn't impress. He is likely out the door b/c his contract is not partially guaranteed. And the other guys are auditioning for other teams or are otherwise d-league bound.
    I'm not talking about spots on the 15 players roster. I'm talking about a spot in the 10 players regular rotation.
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    I'm not talking about spots on the 15 players roster. I'm talking about a spot in the 10 players regular rotation.
    Ah....

    I feel like the guys 10-15 are going to get their chances to show what they can do. It'll be interesting to see where they're all at 30 games in and going into the playoffs.
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    Ah.... I feel like the guys 10-15 are going to get their chances to show what they can do. It'll be interesting to see where they're all at 30 games in and going into the playoffs.
    Excellent point. When Bruno said that twice earlier, it seemed implausible and trivial.
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    Excellent point. When Bruno said that twice earlier, it seemed implausible and trivial.
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    I would have to agree with this. But, it also applies to your "Patty mills isn't fast." And, when thoroughly trounced by the board, the "...I don't think of him as fast..." And, when shown signifcant speed measurements: "...that isn't very significant to me..." And, the deflecting, "...Jimmer was one of the best leapers at the combine..." Too bad he doesn't leap horizontally, as that would have been relevant to the speed discussion, instead of just being a red herring, deflection, move of the goal posts...

    That comment toward you was deserving of your picture, now you look at that picture and swallow the pill, Patty does have elite speed. He's faster than Jimmer. It doesn't make Jimmer useless, but continuing to argue it when several people point out facts disproving your assertion doesn't help your case. And, saying "Well, I never thought of him as fast", or "he doesn't seem fast to me", etc... Just makes you look like you don't have very good observational skills, reasoning ability, or even a capability of learning when being taught something new, which diminishes the credibility of anything else you say.
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    Jimmer will probably surpass Tim in Points for SA. If he does not make 4 threes a game Spurs probably need to fire pop. Jimmer should get about 47-48 minutes a game. If he gets the minutes he should, then he will lead the league in steals and assists.

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    I would have to agree with this. But, it also applies to your "Patty mills isn't fast." And, when thoroughly trounced by the board, the "...I don't think of him as fast..." And, when shown signifcant speed measurements: "...that isn't very significant to me..." And, the deflecting, "...Jimmer was one of the best leapers at the combine..." Too bad he doesn't leap horizontally, as that would have been relevant to the speed discussion, instead of just being a red herring, deflection, move of the goal posts...

    That comment toward you was deserving of your picture, now you look at that picture and swallow the pill, Patty does have elite speed. He's faster than Jimmer. It doesn't make Jimmer useless, but continuing to argue it when several people point out facts disproving your assertion doesn't help your case. And, saying "Well, I never thought of him as fast", or "he doesn't seem fast to me", etc... Just makes you look like you don't have very good observational skills, reasoning ability, or even a capability of learning when being taught something new, which diminishes the credibility of anything else you say.
    Difference between blatant trolling and having an opinion you disgree with (that's the point of the picture).

    And I explained my reasons very well. A time in a combine doesn't make one fast on the court (or as fast as the homers are trying to purport). You know who was fast? Spud Webb. He got the ball and went free throw line to free throw line just like that. That is not Patty Mills. That is not even close to Patty Mills.

    And I was not "deflecting" with the Jimmer stat. For f's sake, do you know what a deflection even is? I was making a point to show that combine stats come with limitations. That's an argument, not a deflection.

    This isn't about Jimmer either. I'm completely dismissing the collective homer notion that Patty has elite speed.
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    Wow 45 pages for this bum. Lmao yous guys are funny
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    Difference between blatant trolling and having an opinion you disgree with (that's the point of the picture).

    And I explained my reasons very well. A time in a combine doesn't make one fast on the court (or as fast as the homers are trying to purport). You know who was fast? Spud Webb. He got the ball and went free throw line to free throw line just like that. That is not Patty Mills. That is not even close to Patty Mills.

    And I was not "deflecting" with the Jimmer stat. For f's sake, do you know what a deflection even is? I was making a point to show that combine stats come with limitations. That's an argument, not a deflection.

    This isn't about Jimmer either. I'm completely dismissing the collective homer notion that Patty has elite speed.
    It's obvious that you haven't watched Patty Mills much at all. I've seen him since he was under 20 and he does have elite speed. Doesn't matter what you say to try and keep disapproving that, I guess you can't see much of anything when your head is stuck up Jimmer's ass.
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    It's obvious that you haven't watched Patty Mills much at all. I've seen him since he was under 20 and he does have elite speed. Doesn't matter what you say to try and keep disapproving that, I guess you can't see much of anything when your head is stuck up Jimmer's ass.
    I've followed Patty since college. People confuse general quickness with elite speed. That's sad, tbh.
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    Why the f does this have 45 pages????
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    I've followed Patty since college. People confuse general quickness with elite speed. That's sad, tbh.
    The court sprints don't measure quickness, they measure flat speed, and yes 1/10th of a second is significant. On a fast break, that 1/10th can mean the difference between getting your layup up off the glass, and having it swatted off the glass right out of your hand.
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    You could also say: dedicating the time to perpetuate a thread about Jimmer, in excess of 40 pages, is the difference between having and not having a life.

    Every tick of the clock matters.
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    You could also say: dedicating the time to perpetuate a thread about Jimmer, in excess of 40 pages, is the difference between having and not having a life.

    Every tick of the clock matters.
    Sup breh. How's life treating you?
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    Sup breh. How's life treating you?
    Went from bachelor to married with 3 kids in a span of 3 years.

    I'm tired . . .

    Glad to see THC still holdin' down the fort.
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    The court sprints don't measure quickness, they measure flat speed, and yes 1/10th of a second is significant. On a fast break, that 1/10th can mean the difference between getting your layup up off the glass, and having it swatted off the glass right out of your hand.
    Court sprints inherently favor smaller players and are not absolute measures of speed with the ball, filling a lane, etc. Obviously, fractions of a second can matter in a game. So can inches. That tenth of a second is often covered by the other player's longer reach.

    Bottom line: Patty doesn't pass the eye test for elite speed. Anyone claiming that has some serious homeritis.
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