NBA Trade Deadline 2020

[MannyIsGod]

This is exactly why I have become a casual fan and I am turned of from this team. Cannot take more Bryn Forbes is Steph Curry from Pop, or we like what we have, we don't make moves by the trade deadline etc. Sorry to say. I still follow the Spurs from afar and I hope changes are in the horizon but I am turned off and have been turned off from the past couple of years. Still care enough to watch a highlight here and there, or a game here and there, but not like I used to. Damn that is an awful FO. I hope they can turn this around this summer bc they aren't doing anything midseason.

You know you're a fairwether spoiled ass fan when THIS is what turns you off from a team that has won 5 rings in the past 20 years. Holy imagine if this team were actually bad for a decade like almost every other team int the NBA has.

No one has to be a good fan, but man some of you are soft AF.

[gambit1990]

from now through the 2026 nba draft... okc currently has 15 (!!!) 1st round (!!!) picks. absolutely fūcking wild.

[DPG21920]

No one stays on top forever man. I'm not going to worry about them being lapped until they miss the playoffs for several years in a row with nothing to show for it. They're a long way from that.

It’s not about missing the playoffs. It’s about the position the team is in. SA is by far in the worst shape now of any team in the division. Not really close either.

And I agreed with about no one staying on top. But you either become the Lakers of the past 6 years or you move forward.

[slick'81]

from now through the 2026 nba draft... okc currently has 15 (!!!) 1st round (!!!) picks. absolutely fūcking wild.

Presti magic

[MannyIsGod]

It’s not about missing the playoffs. It’s about the position the team is in. SA is by far in the worst shape now of any team in the division. Not really close either.

I mean, OK, but that can change overnight. The Mavs got lucky with Luka. The Pelicans got lucky with Zion. Houston has been in a good position but has to show for it. Memphis has definitely made good moves, but its not like they're proven.

I don't disagree the Spurs are in the worst position but I also don't think that means all that much at this moment. The Spurs were eventually going to be on the bottom. It was inevitable. Now that its here, the only thing you can hope for is to get a star in the draft sometime soon because we're not LA.

I mean props to Dallas for getting the Knicks and Hawks to be their usual stupid selves but lets see if it actually means anthing in a few years because for every team thatt is supposed to be in a great position most of the time it doesn't lead to .

[sasaint]

It’s not about missing the playoffs. It’s about the position the team is in. SA is by far in the worst shape now of any team in the division. Not really close either.

And I agreed with about no one staying on top. But you either become the Lakers of the past 6 years or you move forward.

I think you can see the direction in which the Spurs are headed under the current regime.

[Atl Spur]

I’ll just wait.......Crowe will be eaten��. I’m on record; no hiding homies! Worst position=comical

[MannyIsGod]

It’s not about missing the playoffs. It’s about the position the team is in. SA is by far in the worst shape now of any team in the division. Not really close either.

And I agreed with about no one staying on top. But you either become the Lakers of the past 6 years or you move forward.

Also, if Lonnie or Luka take steps in the next few years to be great, then flips right away. Is it likely? I mean of course not, but was it likely that Kawhi was going to become the best player in the league? No.

The Spurs aren't locked in to suck for an extended period of time. But they are going to be bad for at least a year or two.

[SAGirl]

You know you're a fairwether spoiled ass fan when THIS is what turns you off from a team that has won 5 rings in the past 20 years. Holy imagine if this team were actually bad for a decade like almost every other team int the NBA has.

No one has to be a good fan, but man some of you are soft AF.

You are a ty poster dude. Only like to call people spoiled who don't swallow trash.

[DPG21920]

I mean, OK, but that can change overnight. The Mavs got lucky with Luka. The Pelicans got lucky with Zion. Houston has been in a good position but has to show for it. Memphis has definitely made good moves, but its not like they're proven.

I don't disagree the Spurs are in the worst position but I also don't think that means all that much at this moment. The Spurs were eventually going to be on the bottom. It was inevitable. Now that its here, the only thing you can hope for is to get a star in the draft sometime soon because we're not LA.

I mean props to Dallas for getting the Knicks and Hawks to be their usual stupid selves but lets see if it actually means anthing in a few years because for every team thatt is supposed to be in a great position most of the time it doesn't lead to .

Is it really luck when a pretty clear formula has emerged? They have put themselves in a position to be lucky. Some was by doing what SA should do (MEM trading Gasol and Conely) some of it was just natural falling off (Mavs) and some was identical to SA but executed better (trading AD for young talent - even if I thought Ingram sucked).

There are no guarantees but there are paths that give you better shots than others. Luck, skill or whatever (SA got lucky too to land Duncan), SA is very far behind and have been quite frankly awful the past 3 years or so in terms of team building and free agency and trades.

[BackHome]

Sigh, times like these, I wish Belichick was running the Spurs. Dude is cold and heartless but won’t hesitate to give up anyone if it means making the team compe ive.

Totally agree this is why they are always good they don’t give out trophies �� for being pet players.

[DPG21920]

I mean, OK, but that can change overnight. The Mavs got lucky with Luka. The Pelicans got lucky with Zion. Houston has been in a good position but has to show for it. Memphis has definitely made good moves, but its not like they're proven.

I don't disagree the Spurs are in the worst position but I also don't think that means all that much at this moment. The Spurs were eventually going to be on the bottom. It was inevitable. Now that its here, the only thing you can hope for is to get a star in the draft sometime soon because we're not LA.

I mean props to Dallas for getting the Knicks and Hawks to be their usual stupid selves but lets see if it actually means anthing in a few years because for every team thatt is supposed to be in a great position most of the time it doesn't lead to .

Depends on your definition of leading to something? les, ok, but that’s not fair in my eyes. That’s the goal, but its hard. The only reasonable expectation is building a firm playoff team that has a ceiling if things break right to make a run. But a team that wins more than they lose and makes progress and is a firm solid playoff team.

[DPG21920]

I think you can see the direction in which the Spurs are headed under the current regime.

I really can’t - that’s the issue. Im hoping that changes now.

[DPG21920]

Also, if Lonnie or Luka take steps in the next few years to be great, then flips right away. Is it likely? I mean of course not, but was it likely that Kawhi was going to become the best player in the league? No.

The Spurs aren't locked in to suck for an extended period of time. But they are going to be bad for at least a year or two.

And I dont care about being bad. NO will have a losing record, but they aren’t bad. SA is just bad with no future at the moment. If they keep LMA and DeRozan? Even worse.

[DPG21920]

I’ll just wait.......Crowe will be eaten��. I’m on record; no hiding homies! Worst position=comical

Huh? Please justify as of right now how SA is not in the worst position.

[MannyIsGod]

You are a ty poster dude. Only like to call people spoiled who don't swallow trash.

Yon't even know what trash is TBH. Soft.

[sasaint]

I really can’t - that’s the issue. Im hoping that changes now.

Sure, dude, the direction is 6 years of LA - at least.

[MannyIsGod]

Depends on your definition of leading to something? les, ok, but that’s not fair in my eyes. That’s the goal, but its hard. The only reasonable expectation is building a firm playoff team that has a ceiling if things break right to make a run. But a team that wins more than they lose and makes progress and is a firm solid playoff team.

I think having flexible expectations is fair. For instance, if I was a Pelicans fan I'd be way happier than I was a Rockets fan even if the Rockets are by all accounts the better team right now.

The Spurs aren't that far off as you're making it seem though. People would be WAY happier with this team if they were playing their youth 30+ minute a game instead of Forbes, LMA, Derozan even if they had a worse record than they do now. So I'd argue that the reason you feel this way is not because the're actually so far off but rather because Pop has made this an incredibly miserable year by handling it really badly.

[MultiTroll]

I mean, OK, but that can change overnight. The Mavs got lucky with Luka. The Pelicans got lucky with Zion. Houston has been in a good position but has to show for it. Memphis has definitely made good moves, but its not like they're proven.

I don't disagree the Spurs are in the worst position but I also don't think that means all that much at this moment. The Spurs were eventually going to be on the bottom. It was inevitable. Now that its here, the only thing you can hope for is to get a star in the draft sometime soon because we're not LA.

I mean props to Dallas for getting the Knicks and Hawks to be their usual stupid selves but lets see if it actually means anthing in a few years because for every team thatt is supposed to be in a great position most of the time it doesn't lead to .

You're making some sense here Manwell.
Doncic was a #1 pick tho. The way Greggor is running things the Spurs are stuck in 14th pick range. Another GNob or Parker miracle seems unlikely to say the least in 2020+.

It's a given the Spurs are not going to get better until Greggor is no longer coach. Preferably no longer has any say in personnel period. Cause if he stops coaching but is still in a dictator position to force his pets to play then nothing will change.

[dbestpro]

Yon't even know what trash is TBH. Soft.

So you are saying the Spurs as they are right now are soft and trash and are not worth cheering for.

[MannyIsGod]

And I dont care about being bad. NO will have a losing record, but they aren’t bad. SA is just bad with no future at the moment. If they keep LMA and DeRozan? Even worse.

See this is nonsense though. The Spurs have lots of prospective youth and no bad long term deals. The direction is absolutely clear. Pop was trying to win this year due to the streak. But they've maintained flexibility and haven't signed any huge long term contracts so they very obviously understand that a change in direction is coming. I don't even see how this is debatable. They would have extended DeRozan otherwise.

[elbamba]

I am okay with the Spurs losing if they would give their young players more playing time. Few teams would sit their rookies like the Spurs in favor of Forbes, Marco, and Gay and PF.

[MannyIsGod]

So you are saying the Spurs as they are right now are soft and trash and are not worth cheering for.

I'm saying that if you've been a fan of the Spurs through the good times and bail on them now because of their current state, you're a pretty ty fan. If you're ok with that like the previous poster, then by all means jump off the band wagon or be a casual fan or whatever else you want to call yourself. I'll just call you Soft and Spoiled. Same really.

Sports aren't the end all be all so whatever is fine. But doesn't change the fact that there are some soft ass spoiled ass fans here.

[objective]

Lol. This Spurs organization is not that Spurs organization. It's like the Spurs fan base had gotten senile along with Popovich. The Spurs were a great franchise. It isn't anymore.

This team sucks, has no plan, and is run by some obviously incompetent people.

Can't disagree.

If it was the Knicks doing these moves, everyone would say, "Same old dumb disfunctional Knicks."

Having a 4 year contract break then having to pay much more per year for a 2 year deal

Giving up a franchise superstar and a starting 2 and $5 million and not even getting Anunoby back (compared to Presti holding out for SGA)

Trading away a player to free up the MLE then getting burned

Benching their only off-season acquisition forever before a single preseason game

Going into a season without a designated head coach in cases of ejection and just doing it by a whole group

Telling everyone that they're in win-now and compete mode with DDR and Gay and signing 32? Year old Carroll but refusing to draft NBA ready players in favor of a giant project

If it was the Knicks it would surprise nobody

[DPG21920]

I think having flexible expectations is fair. For instance, if I was a Pelicans fan I'd be way happier than I was a Rockets fan even if the Rockets are by all accounts the better team right now.

The Spurs aren't that far off as you're making it seem though. People would be WAY happier with this team if they were playing their youth 30+ minute a game instead of Forbes, LMA, Derozan even if they had a worse record than they do now. So I'd argue that the reason you feel this way is not because the're actually so far off but rather because Pop has made this an incredibly miserable year by handling it really badly.

Somewhat true, but SA very clearly has no Luka, no Ja Morant/JJJ or no Zion. You can only get that by getting legit draft picks (most of the time). You do that by playing and developing the youth you already have along with amassing assets smartly when you can (trading LMA and DeRozan)

I think you and I are on the same page with regards to direction I am just making a point about where SA is at and why - the past 3 years have been pretty poor if we are being honest. Confidence should be shaken some even if the Kawhi thing was not their fault. But the decisions about the team preceding that (Pau and Mills) and after that (DeRozan, Rudy/Carroll and standing pat) are really tough to justify and has led to SA being firmly behind with a lot of work to do.