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    Court sprints inherently favor smaller players and are not absolute measures of speed with the ball, filling a lane, etc. Obviously, fractions of a second can matter in a game. So can inches. That tenth of a second is often covered by the other player's longer reach.

    Bottom line: Patty doesn't pass the eye test for elite speed. Anyone claiming that has some serious homeritis.
    Bottom line is that Patty doesn't pass your confirmation bias induced eye test for speed, but he passes everyone else's.
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    Do Mormons have their own eye tests?

    I know they have special underpants.
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    Do Mormons have their own eye tests?

    I know they have special underpants.
    Funny that you mention that. Reading Doc: The Rape of the Town of Lovell right now. It goes over the garments that the women wear.
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    Funny that you mention that. Reading Doc: The Rape of the Town of Lovell right now. It goes over the garments that the women wear.
    Damn, that is a sad and infuriating story.
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    Bottom line is that Patty doesn't pass your confirmation bias induced eye test for speed, but he passes everyone else's.
    Don't forget he also wants us to ignore all the actual numbers that QUANTIFY the speed difference between the two. His eye tests doesn't only trump a superior number of contrary eye-tests. His eye-test trumps the actual numbers, too.
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    Court sprints inherently favor smaller players and are not absolute measures of speed with the ball, filling a lane, etc. Obviously, fractions of a second can matter in a game. So can inches. That tenth of a second is often covered by the other player's longer reach.

    Bottom line: Patty doesn't pass the eye test for elite speed. Anyone claiming that has some serious homeritis.
    There has been plenty to prove Patty's speed put forth. Nothing to prove Jimmer's speed. Nothing is ever absolute. Could Jimmer be the fastest man on the planet, and Patty the slowest. Possible, but all the evidence points to the opposite: Patty is regarded for his speed. Jimmer is not. Where measurables are available, Patty is faster, Jimmer is not. It's not absolute. But, it's still pretty obvious to anyone that is unbias.

    And, poor Jimmer, being discriminated against because he is so tall. Not fair asking him to win a sprint against a six foot guy when he is six three...that doesn't show him in his fast light. Jimmer is fast in alternate ways, where getting from point a to point b quicker than the other person isn't taken into consideration. He is tall fast. He is fill up the lane fast. Not so much movement fast, and as soon as the NBA stops using stopwatches, only then will Jimmer's true speed be recognized, and Patty's speed ignored for the red herring it was.
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    Do Mormons have their own eye tests?

    I know they have special underpants.
    Ask a Mormon and then don't get back to me.
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    Bottom line is that Patty doesn't pass your confirmation bias induced eye test for speed, but he passes everyone else's.
    Yes, he doesn't pass my 'biased' eye test and he passes many others' 'biased' eye test. I don't get your point? If anything, my bias is less significant. I've been a Patty fan since college, and I'm not going to hype his speed. Are you claiming that Patty has "elite speed?" Cos that's the argument at hand.
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    Ask a Mormon and then don't get back to me.
    I am asking a Mormon.
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    Damn, that is a sad and infuriating story.
    You've peaked my interest. Give us a review.
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    I am asking a Mormon.
    Yea, I'd ask how that's going except for the part "and then don't get back to me."
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    I am asking a Mormon.
    So what's your question?
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    Don't forget he also wants us to ignore all the actual numbers that QUANTIFY the speed difference between the two. His eye tests doesn't only trump a superior number of contrary eye-tests. His eye-test trumps the actual numbers, too.
    1. Don't know how many times I have to say that my analysis of Patty's alleged elite speed has nothing to do with Jimmer.
    2. So, the 30 is an absolute measure of speed? Go ahead and list a scale for us then, so we can all be as crisply informed as you are.
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    Yea, I'd ask how that's going except for the part "and then don't get back to me."
    So you're saying you aren't Mormon?

    So what's your question?
    Do Mormons have special eye tests and other tests when discussing the merits of Mormon athletes as opposed to non-Mormon athletes.
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    Went from bachelor to married with 3 kids in a span of 3 years.

    I'm tired . . .

    Glad to see THC still holdin' down the fort.
    Bet you are. Mine is 16 so I have a whole new set of worries. Thankfully she's a good girl and not a head like I was at 16.
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    So you're saying you aren't Mormon?

    Do Mormons have special eye tests and other tests when discussing the merits of Mormon athletes as opposed to non-Mormon athletes.
    I don't divulge such personal details online. I've repeatedly told you this.
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    I don't divulge such personal details online. I've repeatedly told you this.
    You won't divulge that you aren't something?

    OK, you're Mormon then. If you're not going to deny it, it's what you are.
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    Over 1350 posts and 14 pages about a short Austin Daye.
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    You won't divulge that you aren't something?

    OK, you're Mormon then. If you're not going to deny it, it's what you are.
    Your cheap come-ons and faulty logic aren't going to prove anything besides your idiocy and trollery.
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    Your cheap come-ons and faulty logic aren't going to prove anything besides your idiocy and trollery.
    It's OK that you're Mormon, dude.

    Don't get all worked up about it.
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    Do Mormons have special eye tests and other tests when discussing the merits of Mormon athletes as opposed to non-Mormon athletes.
    Nope

    Now quit disrespecting a Spurs fan.

    Low life like you deserve to live in a trailer park. Please, tell me how it feels to live in a trailer park?

    It's absolutely okay if you don't want to admit you live a trailer park. Nothing wrong with that.
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    Over 1350 posts and 14 pages about a short Austin Daye.
    Actually most of posts aren't even about Jimmer.
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    1. Don't know how many times I have to say that my analysis of Patty's alleged elite speed has nothing to do with Jimmer.
    2. So, the 30 is an absolute measure of speed? Go ahead and list a scale for us then, so we can all be as crisply informed as you are.
    Well, Jimmer vs Patty is how it got started. The only reason you're trying to leave Jimmer out of it now is because Jimmer doesn't compare favorably on any speed metric. And the only reason you're trying to knock Patty's speed is to save Jimmer's viability. If you just want to have some argument about whether Patty has elite speed or not, that's already been sufficiently proven by other posters. Afterward, you made the attempt to say some of Patty's numbers should be disregarded because he is short, and has a natural advantage? But, if you're arguing about whether his speed is elite- outside of any other players (ahem <cough> Jimmer) why would we disregard any measurement that proves his elite speed because of height? We're looking at his elite speed in a vacuum, which proved you wrong, so you want to throw in height.

    I don't need to give a scale for you. These things are pretty well established already. You just have to come to accept them. Patty is fast. He is among the fastest in the NBA. He is in elite company in that regard, as has already been shown.

    Why are you trying to introduce ability to fill a lane, wingspan, and height, to a discussion that you are now arguing is supposed to be simply and narrowly defined to be about the elite speed of Patty Mills?!
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    It's OK that you're Mormon, dude.

    Don't get all worked up about it.
    You can say it's okay or not okay. It doesn't matter to me. It's your issue; not mine.
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    You can say it's okay or not okay. It doesn't matter to me. It's your issue; not mine.
    Your being a Mormon is your issue.

    I'm not a Mormon so being a Mormon isn't my issue.
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