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the deal is Barnes, Vassell, Sochan, #14 and maybe some second rounders. Third team could be involved. KD is doing the same thing Fox did: He's telling teams he only wants to play in San Antonio
This is it right here. I’m not interested in including Sochan or going any deeper into our roster unless it’s 10th man on or additional 2nds.
the deal is Barnes, Vassell, Sochan, #14 and maybe some second rounders. Third team could be involved. KD is doing the same thing Fox did: He's telling teams he only wants to play in San Antonio
If that's indeed the deal, we'll need another wing.
KD/Keldon/Champ isn't good enough.
Both Jeremy and #14 is an overpay for my liking.
I'd rather not include Sochan, but if that's the deal the Spurs would still be 9.5 million under the cap. They could just go and trade Branham for a 14 million dollar contract and absorb it. Or Keldon for a 27 million dollar contract, which is the exact salary that John Collins makes if he opts in. I already know Brian Wright is out here playing 4D-chess.
Just found this scenario interesting:
Suns Receive: Markkanen, Spurs 14th Pick
Jazz Receive: Vassell, KJ, Sochan, Barnes, Spurs 2nd Pick
Spurs Receive: Durant, John Collins, Jazz 5th Pick
Losing the 2nd pick hurts, no doubt. But, adding the pick of the litter of Edgecomb, Knueppel, Maluach, Jackucionis, Coward, Sorber, Tre Johnson, Fears, etc. isn't so bad.
A SL of Fox, Castle, Wemby, Durant & Collins is formidable. Rounding out the roster with a backup center, and a forward or two would be pretty sweet. CP3 might stick around as a backup for that ride. Interesting scenario.
My dream scenario is getting a late 1st round back and get a chance at drafting Fleming.
Adding KD would have ring chasers knocking at Spurs door, maybe Capela or Adams and even John Collins.
I posted this scenario a couple days ago, because Ainge might want to get in on the deal. I also think the Spurs would want additional future picks in return for trading down. They are trying to fleece teams.
Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 06-11-2025 at 05:21 PM.
Opinion or source? I'm skeptical of Sochan's inclusion because he's their only POA defender against wing-forward sized primary options.
I still think they'll have to add a second 1st to Vassell, Barnes and 14, even if it goes to a third team (probably the Nets) to get the Suns a starting C.
I'm hearing stuff. I don't know how credible it is, but I'm hearing it from multiple people and I heard all of it before NBACentral, Shams, etc. were reporting it.
I view Sochan as the only guy who's able to lock up SGA. But it seems like the Spurs want to shed that salary and not give him an extension. They not sending a second pick, they might send a swap or a gang of second rounders.
Or do the whole trade down scenario in a 3-team trade and include it in a KD deal. If Sochan is gone they might target another forward. Bailey is expected to fall to #5. Essengue could be a target if they ship out Sochan. Like I said in the other thread I made: I expect major roster turnover. They are trying to revamp the whole thing.
Spurs are not doing a massive roster turnover per my sources. My sources are Peter John Holt, RC Buford, Brian Wright and Mitch Johnson. All 4 said the same thing.
Pretty quickly how things change. One moment, the Spurs are considered overwhelming betting favorites to land KD, the next Shams is implying the Rockets are the front runner
that, I'm not trading Dylan Harper for ing John Collins. You gotta stop day drinking.
Windhorst doesn't know anything. He is just stanning for ESPN. At the beginning of the week he was trying to convince people the Knicks were a serious player.
Barnes is really the only role player I would hate to lose. Trade whoever else you want to trade from the friendship crew away. None of them are serious pieces on a contending Squad.
Shams has legit sources but he still works for ESPN. They are going to create their own narrative to keep people listening to them.Pretty quickly how things change. One moment, the Spurs are considered overwhelming betting favorites to land KD, the next Shams is implying the Rockets are the front runner
Good info, thanks for posting it.
I'm as much a Sochan stan as anyone here, but if the Spurs don't want to extend him they might as well try and use him as a positive asset in a trade.
I still think Sochan, even if he never shoots threes, can be part of a functional offense, and his defense on guys like SGA would be wasted if he comes off the bench. I would rather the Spurs trade Sochan or let him walk rather than give him a multi-year contract as a bench player.
“This trade is a done deal, and he’s going to the Spurs” is a terrible storyline. Therefore, they make up to try to gin up some drama and controversy. Same with pick #2. It was pretty clear after the lottery that SA wasn’t interested in trading it, but ESPN gotta make up some to generate some clicks.
Eventually you watch enough draft/trade/FA seasons, you can tell the from the shinola.
People are somehow not watching the NBA finals and seeing the MVP about to lead his team to a le a few years after being traded for Paul George. That's exactly what could happen with Harper.
There‘s a reason the betting odds favor the Spurs by miles since yesterday…
The more I read here, the less I want a KD deal.
If we give up more than Vassell, Barnes + #14 I will be disappointed. I think Sochan is a special player. Sure, if our guards or him can't develop in terms of 3pt shooting, it will be a problem, but his connectivity and defense are special (it's easy to imagine him on the curent Thunder roster).
I'm also still somewhat high on Vassell. While I'm ok with losing him, I can very well see him becoming a borderline All Star if put into the right position (think D.White).
Thus said, if I have the choice between a lineup that still has Barnes, Fleming/Sorber (#14) and whatever big wing we can get for Vassell (I'm not a John Collins fan, but well, ok)...or having nothing of that but KD...I'm a little bit on the former side with only the Wemby idol status of KD selling me the later.
apparently, KD would ask for 120 millions over two years for the extension. That's crazy
I’m on board with this.
If we are giving up 3 players it would be nice if one was Champagnie or even better Branham. Malaki is a guy who could benefit from a change of scenery and actual playing time.
apparently, KD would ask for 120 millions over two years for the extension. That's crazy
Why would we give up our only legit wing size shooter who's not a negative on defense and earns just $3M for two more seasons?
I’m on board with Vassell/Sochan/KJ is too many rotation wings to give up although if it meant keeping the 14 pick could be worth entertaining. Maybe a 3rd team could route us a front court player that provides more of what we need re shooting and or rebounding and rim protection in that type of scenario. SRPs need to be in the offering too since we have way too many.
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