2025 NBA Offseason Thread

[Mr. Body]

Shout out to the hamster tonight. Solid work.

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xhamster? Oh, right

[dn0774]

Adding Porzingis/NAW/Kennard + got very good value with Asa Newell in the draft + got NOP’s 2026 FRP which could be juicy. They’re not a top 3 team in the league or anything but their outlook is totally different now vs. a few weeks ago when we were all salivating at the idea of having their picks the next couple of years. The fact they’re in the East obviously helps too.

Oh, I love their off season as whole (obviously the fleecing of the Pelicans being the main course), my comment is regarding the NAW signing in a vacuum. Posters going nuts about it, shocked at the amount being so "low" etc. I just don't see the crazy value there, NAW's advanced stats don't indicate that he is ready for a role promotion or anything which mean they are paying a guy firmly in backup territory a good chunk of change.

Kennard is a disgustingly elite shooter who everyone loves the idea of having on their roster. The problem? He gets absolutely hunted with great success and often gets played off the floor because of it. Maybe with a Trae and Kennard lineup teams will get confused on which guy to target, though. Porzingis is basically a coin flip, he will either play 20 games or 60 games, still an expiring so that is good.

I'm mostly interested in if Dyson Daniels can take another nice step (he is only 22 which seems crazy) and what year 2 Risacher adds, if they hit the Hawks are a dark horse in the East it pains me to say.

[KobesAchilles]

So the Hawks got NAW for 4 years 62 million and we got a worse player in Vassell for more than double the price. Please Mitch talk some sense into BWrigjt and tell him not to extend Sochan

[Degoat]

So my question, we need shooting and I would love to add Yabusele… However, question where is that shooter going to find any playing time? And are we wanting Yabusele over resigning Mamu?

[vy65]

[CGD]

Barnes and Vassell are the only above average 3 pt shooters we have in the entire roster. You would be surprised how little we would improve by replacing them. The quickest and easiest way to improve is to erase from the rotation the only player that doesn't add anything of value at any side of the floor (aka: Keldon), with someone that improves our biggest weakness (e.i: shooting).

Sure and you can keep both. I just don’t think you can also start both. Both should be coming off the bench in a world where these spurs were a little mature.

Bottom line: Barnes is not the solution at PF; Bryant isn’t ready; and this is a big year for Sochan to prove he is, but obviously that’s tenuous too.

[spursistan]

LAL taking body blows. Good for our playoff chances.

1. OKC
2. HOU
3. DEN
4. MIN

5. GSW
6. DAL

7. LAL
8. LAC
9. SAS
10. MEM

11. PHX
12. POR
13. SAC
14. NOLA
15. UTA

Yeah Lakers looking like the biggest losers of this Free Agency so far..Spurs need another move or two to get to that 5th/6th tier hopefuls.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah Lakers looking like the biggest losers of this Free Agency so far..Spurs need another move or two to get to that 5th/6th tier hopefuls.

LAL will get Ayton, but that roster sucks and LeBron is already looking to get out.

[mystargtr34]

Lakers getting Ayton with the full MLE so they prob didn’t go after any of the other Centers because you can’t get them with the BAE.

Losing DFS hurts though.

Ayton - Lebron - LaRavia - Reeves - Luka

That’s a first round exit again. They need to trade either Lebron or Reeves and picks for upgrades.

[DAF86]

Sure and you can keep both. I just don’t think you can also start both. Both should be coming off the bench in a world where these spurs were a little mature.

Bottom line: Barnes is not the solution at PF; Bryant isn’t ready; and this is a big year for Sochan to prove he is, but obviously that’s tenuous too.

If by "replacing" Vassell and Barnes you meant "sending them to the bench", I agree. The one that really needs to be replaced out of the rotation is Keldon, though.

[vy65]

That 5-10 range is really interesting because almost all those teams are susceptible to injuries/are dealing with injuries already (DAL). But doing a Vassell for John Collins deal would probably get them into the top 6. But that isn’t likely.

[Mr. Body]

How y'all gonna like Keldon and Vassell playing for the Lake show?

[vy65]

Lakers getting Ayton with the full MLE so they prob didn’t go after any of the other Centers because you can’t get them with the BAE.

Losing DFS hurts though.

Ayton - Lebron - LaRavia - Reeves - Luka

That’s a first round exit again. They need to trade either Lebron or Reeves and picks for upgrades.

LeBron is gonna lose to Father Time one of these days too …

[Tyrone Jenkins]

That's not what the metrics indicate.

The only stat Champ is better at is 3P (made and %). And he's a LOT better. Keldon shot 31%. Champ shot 37.

But, the rest is about the same or Keldon is better (to include pts per game, 2P% and off reb). Keldon averaged 12.7 ppg. Champ averaged 9.7. I'm not interested in a bunch of DVOA or other so-called advanced stats. I go to the games - Keldon is better to me.

Champ might play a bit better defense but it's not that much better. Keldon makes $17.5. Champ makes $3.

I would GLADLY take Champ over Keldon but that's the problem - so would everyone else...

[LakerHater]

Rox really helpin KD, puttin pieces around'em!!

[dn0774]

There are high iq players and low iq players, Keldon is unfortunately a no iq player. For a team trying to enter the playoff picture, Keldon just hurts the team too much to ever be a net positive, especially as a vet. I can handle dealing with growing and learning from a young guy (ie Castle as a rook). But for a guy going into his 7th season to still have zero feel for the game and who just plays entirely on impulse? It ain't going to magically get better, we have to move on and cut our losses.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
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Free agent sharpshooter Gary Trent Jr. has agreed to a two-year, $7.5 million deal to return to the Milwaukee Bucks, plus a player option, sources tell ESPN. Bucks made strong efforts to retain Trent and negotiated deal with Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul and agent Lucas Newton.

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939877334510707180

[SpursFan86]

Jeff McDonald confirming Spurs have “strong interest” in Yabusele. Have a good feeling we get him tbh.

[DAF86]

The only stat Champ is better at is 3P (made and %). And he's a LOT better. Keldon shot 31%. Champ shot 37.

But, the rest is about the same or Keldon is better (to include pts per game, 2P% and off reb). Keldon averaged 12.7 ppg. Champ averaged 9.7. I'm not interested in a bunch of DVOA or other so-called advanced stats. I go to the games - Keldon is better to me.

Champ might play a bit better defense but it's not that much better. Keldon makes $17.5. Champ makes $3.

I would GLADLY take Champ over Keldon but that's the problem - so would everyone else...

Well, that explains why you think Keldon is better, tbh.

[Leetonidas]

Shams said we'd see a lot of big deals tonight. Still waiting on a "big" deal unless we're counting MPJ trade

[mystargtr34]

Gary Trent career .555 TS% and .381% from 3. 17.5 PPG per 36. Salary $3.5M

Devin Vassell career .555 TS% and .369% from 3. 18.3 PPG per 36. Salary $27M.

DAMN

[DPG21920]

Maybe we can see a Keldon for Duncan Robinson S&T

[mystargtr34]

Power of Friendship: PRICELESS

[ace3g]

Jake Fischer JakeLFischer
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An emerging option for the Pistons, sources say, is Detroit trading for Kings guard Malik Monk. Sounds like there’s a chance this deal, if agreed to, could turn into a sign-and-trade that brings Dennis Schroder to Sacramento.

https://x.com/JakeLFischer/status/1939879449505169601

[mystargtr34]

Maybe we can see a Keldon for Duncan Robinson S&T

Could see that. The only way I could see a team being interested in Keldon is one that values culture and wants to up their free throw attempt rate because that’s the only thing Keldon does well, get to the line.

Miami was 27th in FTA last season.

I’m clutching at straws here.

I don’t think DR is signing for more than $10-12M pa though. He only declined his $20M option because only $9.9M was garuanteed.