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    v^2= 2ad=2*9.8*.7*11=150=v^2, find the square root of 150, and bada bing, you get 12 meters per second
    Actually V^2 = u^2 + 2 a d

    Where v = velocity
    u = initial velocity
    a = force of gravity
    d = distance *(assuming that two floors completely collapsed)

    so.......V^2 = 0 + 2 (9.8)(7.6m)
    v^2 = 148.96
    so.........v = 12.204 m/sec

    ...but close enough....

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    So since the top floors collapsing never encounter resistance the velocity should never exceed 12 m/sec....


    ...now lets calculate the resistance force...

    ..since the building always supported the top floors before the collapse the (mg) remains constant so

    Resistance force = The Sum of (mg) + 123 (the number of people supported/floor x the number of floors remaining x 84 kg/person + safety factor

    So the resistance force given a mass of 68,000 lbs and g = 9.8 is 669.700 newtons - any safety factor

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    So since the top floors collapsing never encounter resistance the velocity should never exceed 12 m/sec....


    ...now lets calculate the resistance force...

    ..since the building always supported the top floors before the collapse the (mg) remains constant so

    Resistance force = The Sum of (mg) + 123 (the number of people supported/floor x the number of floors x 84 kg/person + safety factor

    So the resistance force given a mass of 68,000 lbs and g = 9.8 is 669.700 newtons - any safety factor

    WTF are you trying to calculate?

    And what's up with the metric units. This is America, !

    By the way, if a falling body doesn't encounter any resistance, it will continue to accelerate, i.e. it's speed will continue to increase over time.

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    By the way, if a falling body doesn't encounter any resistance, it will continue to accelerate, i.e. it's speed will continue to increase over time.
    Stay out of this savage, unless you've had over cal3...

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    Stay out of this savage, unless you've had over cal3...

    Hey dumbass, I'm a licensed mechanical engineer, so take your cal3 and stick it up your ass.

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    If you were a engineer you would know why I'm using meters...duH!

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    If you were a engineer you would know why I'm using meters...duH!

    Well, you can use English units, i.e. feet, DUH!

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    Hey dumbass, I'm a licensed mechanical engineer, so take your cal3 and stick it up your ass.
    Can you help us design a steel framed structure that can survive earthquakes, tropical storms, blizzards, hailstorms, floods, hurricanes, space junk, tidal waves, typoons, cyclones, tornados, and stuka dive bombers, but will suffer global collapse from an office fire?


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    Can you help us design a steel framed structure that can survive earthquakes, tropical storms, blizzards, hailstorms, floods, hurricanes, space junk, tidal waves, typoons, cyclones, tornados, and stuka dive bombers, but will suffer global collapse from an office fire?


    Sure, but I probably can't design one that can handle being struck by a 255,000 lb object moving at several hundred mph and carrying over 11,000 gallons of jet fuel.

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    Hey dumbass, I'm a licensed mechanical engineer, so take your cal3 and stick it up your ass.
    come on brah, give some credentials

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    Sure, but I probably can't design one that can handle being struck by a 255,000 lb object moving at several hundred mph and carrying over 11,000 gallons of jet fuel.
    WTC 7 wasn't hit by an airplane. Not sure the relevance of your fantasy.

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    WTC 7 wasn't hit by an airplane. Not sure the relevance of your fantasy.
    It wasn't imploded either so, I'm not sure of the relevance of your fantasy...that's gone on for too ing long now.

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    It wasn't imploded either so, I'm not sure of the relevance of your fantasy...that's gone on for too ing long now.
    Expert scientists, engineers, demolition specialists, and architects have already determined that it was imploded.

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    Expert scientists, engineers, demolition specialists, and architects have already determined that it was imploded.
    More experts, scientists, engineers, demolition specialists, and architects with intimate knowledge of the site have not made that determination.

    Name an expert, scientist, engineer, demolition specialist, or architect connected with the World Trade Center collapse investigation that has made that determination.

    Then, produce the scientific paper where they prove it out.

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    So since the top floors collapsing never encounter resistance the velocity should never exceed 12 m/sec....
    Why not?

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    Expert scientists, engineers, demolition specialists, and architects have already determined that it was imploded.
    There was no reason at all to implode that building.

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    Because after the collapsing part hits the part still standing you've got to factor in resistance force...that's the problem with RG's numbers....he confuses mass with force.....for instance, if you throw a rock from a building its mass never changes, it has equal mass at the top, in the middle, and at the bottom, so what does change?

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    Well, you can use English units, i.e. feet, DUH!

    No, it's because Force is measured in newton-meters, but I'm sure if you're really a engineer you already knew that...

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    Because after the collapsing part hits the part still standing you've got to factor in resistance force...that's the problem with RG's numbers....he confuses mass with force.....for instance, if you throw a rock from a building its mass never changes, it has equal mass at the top, in the middle, and at the bottom, so what does change?
    But you were talking specifically about velocity. Are you saying if you throw a rock from a building its velocity never changes on the way down?

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    The thing I never understand is that dan admits that he doesn't know and never knew how much weight each building was designed to support and consequentially exactly how much resistance the lower floors of each building would provide during a collapse. How can anyone make an equation without knowing that?

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    But you were talking specifically about velocity. Are you saying if you throw a rock from a building its velocity never changes on the way down?
    No...no...no....I said that the fastest Velocity the collapsing building would have was when it encountered no resistance...

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    The thing I never understand is that dan admits that he doesn't know and never knew how much weight each building was designed to support and consequentially exactly how much resistance the lower floors of each building would provide during a collapse. How can anyone make an equation without knowing that?
    ..because I'm using constants for mass and not factoring in any safety margin...

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