Is there a God?

[Blake]

I hope it one day leads you to pray because Jesus promises that anyone who seeks Him will find Him.

really. so in the year 1500, a native in an African tribe was able to find Jesus and share with his fellow tribesman about the wonders of Jesus and his resurrection.

I guess the same goes for Native Americans in the 1700s......oh wait I forgot.......John Smith and the Mormons say that Jesus appeared to them........nevermind.

[Kermit]

I typed all of that with my own hand and I looked for the sources myself.

It's amazing what mentally handicapped people can do nowadays. Kudos sir.

[MiamiHeat]

Sooo, since your statement "science was always seen as the enemy of the church" is patently false, should I treat everything as such as well?

Sooo, since your bull rant was ignorant of the harm religion has caused, still causes, and will cause in the future, should I treat everything else as bull as well?

[Blake]

For your consideration:

Acts 17:24-27-

"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.
And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.

From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. "

not one mention of each man needing to say the prayer of believing in the resurrection of Jesus.

[MiamiHeat]

It's amazing what mentally handicapped people can do nowadays. Kudos sir.

LOL good one

[Phenomanul]

What do you think of this text?


Romans 1:19-20
Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse."

Sorry angel_luv, I didn't realize you had directed this question to me.

This is actually one of my favorite verses, because it speaks volumes about GOD's nature and His fingerprints throughout creation.

Nevertheless, I feel it only addresses the issue about disbelief in GOD Himself - as a higher power. It doesn't address the issue about those who never knew about Christ's redemptive act, information needed for them to make a concious choice about their eternal destination. Perhaps GOD will give them a second chance during his Millenial reign... Again, I don't know.

For the record I believe that infants without cogniscence of right or wrong go to heaven upon death. There is sufficient context in the scriptures to support that belief.

[BacktoBasics]

I just want you guys to know that I've had a lot of fun in here.

:grouphug:

[to21]

This thread is just as pointless as the Quattro thread.....

Jus sayn', in case no one has.




Yes, even tho I posted in it.

[BacktoBasics]

Sorry angel_luv, I didn't realize you had directed this question to me.

This is actually one of my favorite verses, because it speaks volumes about GOD's nature and His fingerprints throughout creation.

Nevertheless, I feel it only addresses the issue about disbelief in GOD Himself - as a higher power. It doesn't address the issue about those who never knew about Christ's redemptive act, information needed for them to make a concious choice about their eternal destination. Perhaps GOD will give them a second chance during his Millenial reign... Again, I don't know.

For the record I believe that infants without cogniscence of right or wrong go to heaven upon death. There is sufficient context in the scriptures to support that belief.

but wolfboy burns in because he couldn't conclude a god from seeing billions of suns in the sky

[BacktoBasics]

This thread is just as pointless as the Quattro thread.....

Jus sayn', in case no one has.

We know. WE ALL KNOW

[angel_luv]

So he gets into heaven? Even without knowing or worshipping?

The beauty of creation is an unmistakeable memo, drawing our attention towards the God who created the whole earth, including each of us.

What you do with that knowledge- whether you choose to embrace God and His son, Jesus or reject them, is what determines whether or not you are saved.

Jesus said to come to Hiim with the faith of a child.
Perhaps your desire to be intellectual is what is blocking your ability to grasp and receive salvation.

[MiamiHeat]

Sorry angel_luv, I didn't realize you had directed this question to me.

This is actually one of my favorite verses, because it speaks volumes about GOD's nature and His fingerprints throughout creation.

Nevertheless, I feel it only addresses the issue about disbelief in GOD Himself - as a higher power. It doesn't address the issue about those who never knew about Christ's redemptive act, information needed for them to make a concious choice about their eternal destination. Perhaps GOD will give them a second chance during his Millenial reign... Again, I don't know.

For the record I believe that infants without cogniscence of right or wrong go to heaven upon death. There is sufficient context in the scriptures to support that belief.

Bull . My God did not say those things. This is what God really said :

"I am Osiris Onnophris who is found perfect before the Gods. I hath said: These are the elements of my Body perfected through suffering, glorified through trial. The scent of the dying Rose is as the repressed sigh of my Suffering. And the flame-red Fire as the energy of mine undaunted Will. And the Cup of Wine is the pouring out of the blood of my heart, sacrificed unto Regeneration, unto the newer life. And the bread and salt are as the foundations of my body, which I destroy in order that they may be renewed.

For I am Osiris Triumphant. Even Osiris Onnophris the Justified One. I am He who is clothed with the body of flesh yet in whom flames the spirit of the eternal Gods. I am the Lord of Life."

[Phenomanul]

but wolfboy burns in because he couldn't conclude a god from seeing billions of suns in the sky

Reading comprehension is really not your strong suit, is it?

[MiamiHeat]

Reading comprehension is really not your strong suit, is it?

Don't need reading comprehension. The Eternal Osiris-Re has made it very clear for me to understand. With His great wisdom.

Who are you to doubt Him?

[Blake]

Sorry angel_luv, I didn't realize you had directed this question to me.

This is actually one of my favorite verses, because it speaks volumes about GOD's nature and His fingerprints throughout creation.

Nevertheless, I feel it only addresses the issue about disbelief in GOD Himself - as a higher power. It doesn't address the issue about those who never knew about Christ's redemptive act, information needed for them to make a concious choice about their eternal destination. Perhaps GOD will give them a second chance during his Millenial reign... Again, I don't know.

For the record I believe that infants without cogniscence of right or wrong go to heaven upon death. There is sufficient context in the scriptures to support that belief.

I think there has been sufficient cause for concern over the years for the salvation of primitives.......otherwise the job of missionary would be basically pointless.

[angel_luv]

not one mention of each man needing to say the prayer of believing in the resurrection of Jesus.

The book of Romans was written as one complete letter.

In consideration of post length I didn't post the entire thing for you but here is a link to it:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...s;&version=31;

Click the appropriate arrows at the bottom of the page to proceed to the following chapters.

[DarkReign]

Sooo, since your bull rant was ignorant of the harm religion has caused, still causes, and will cause in the future, should I treat everything else as bull as well?

Hmm, that wasnt very logical at all.

You said, "science was always seen as an enemy of the Church". Which is patently false. That isnt a debate, sorry.

You however then lend only an opinion phrased similarly to my wording in response?

You obviously have no intention of having an honest debate, do you?

[Blake]

Perhaps your desire to be intellectual is what is blocking your ability to grasp and receive salvation.

no my desire for truth is what is still blocking my desire to fall head over heels back into Christianity.

[Blake]

The book of Romans was written as one complete letter.

In consideration of post length I didn't post the entire thing for you but here is a link to it:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...s;&version=31;

Click the appropriate arrows at the bottom of the page to proceed to the following chapters.

no thanks. Honestly, I've probably read the Bible more than you.

I's rather have your opinion.

[angel_luv]

I think there has been sufficient cause for concern over the years for the salvation of primitives.......otherwise the job of missionary would be basically pointless.

Jesus did say to go into the whole world and preach the Gospel.

For me witnessing goes beyond a directive I am obeying, it is a privilige to be able to tell as many people as I can about Jesus.
I embrace the opportunity.

[MiamiHeat]

Hmm, that wasnt very logical at all.

You said, "science was always seen as an enemy of the Church". Which is patently false. That isnt a debate, sorry.

You however then lend only an opinion phrased similarly to my wording in response?

You obviously have no intention of having an honest debate, do you?

the summarization of your idiotic bull rant : "religion is harmless, who cares guyz, come on letz get along!"

THAT is 'patently false'

THAT isn't a debate.

[BacktoBasics]

Reading comprehension is really not your strong suit, is it?

I admit every time I look for a modern day answer and am met with a bible quote I see this

"Words 34:16 words words dodging worse citing other words words words that were pieced together hundreds of years after hearing other unfounded words words words words"


So picky and choosy. Babies get into heaven because thats how you interpreted it. Wolfboy might get into heaven others do not. So on and so forth just so long as it fits somewhere.

[MiamiHeat]

Jesus did say to go into the whole world and preach the Gospel.

For me witnessing goes beyond a directive I am obeying, it is a privilige to be able to tell as many people as I can about Jesus.
I embrace the opportunity.

this kind of brainwashed is the prize of all men

if only we can brainwash her to give us all a blowjob

[Blake]

Reading comprehension is really not your strong suit, is it?

so is believing in Jesus resurrection necessary for salvation? Yes or no?

I fail to see how his question shows a lack of reading comprehension.

[BacktoBasics]

Don't need reading comprehension. The Eternal Osiris-Re has made it very clear for me to understand. With His great wisdom.

Who are you to doubt Him?

I giggle every time you do this. We should serious start a fresh church and take donations in the name of Osiris