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    An emerging option for the Pistons, sources say, is Detroit trading for Kings guard Malik Monk. Sounds like there’s a chance this deal, if agreed to, could turn into a sign-and-trade that brings Dennis Schroder to Sacramento.

    https://x.com/JakeLFischer/status/1939879449505169601
    Maybe Sacramento is still a team to hunt in trades... giving up Monk to acquire Schroder? C'mon man.

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    Darn, I wanted to get Trent Jr. if he came cheap, and that is about the price I thought the Spurs could get him with (the remainder of the MLE), and then Yabusele with the BAE. We've got a similar player in Devin Vassell, but looking at Trent's 3 point percentage in the playoffs at .421 is what had me interested. Not a huge sample size of 16 games, but that is still pretty good.

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    Really think Duncan Robinson would fit in nicely with the second unit

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    Disagree. Keldon is by far better than Champagnie - just not for the $.

    I'm good w/ Keldon or Vassel being trade bait for a 3-D PF (even one who's a clear backup). The obvious problem w/ both Keldon and Vassel is they play the most common position in the NBA and neither is worth their salary. Let's consider that we're "stuck" with both. Who can we trade to get our missing pieces...

    Champagnie and Sochan.
    Strongly disagree. Champ is a way better shooter and a way better defender. Keldon is Branham level bad defensively and he gets in the way of Victor offensively without creating for anyone but himself. Keldon is a trash level player but who will thankfully be off the books when Wemby is up for his supermax.

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    Really think Duncan Robinson would fit in nicely with the second unit
    I also like Duncan Robinson, he can sling it on drives, not just a shooter.He could replace Barnes if needed

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    Well it's getting late and I wonder if the deals are done for the day. No word on Yabusele is puzzling and is Duncan Robinson still out there?

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    How have the rockets paid for two good role players while obtaining KD? I am confused. We have one max player and someone only have enough for a Tax payer MLE?

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    How have the rockets paid for two good role players while obtaining KD? I am confused. We have one max player and someone only have enough for a Tax payer MLE?
    FVF's option wasnt picked up and then he resigned for half the money.

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    So what other sharpshooters available besides Duncan Robinson? That's the missing piece this offseason. Either that or Bryant is getting 18 minutes a game lol

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    I think at this point I like Boucher a hair better than Yabusele, but either French speaker would be ok, and it’s close enough that the deciding factor might just be whichever one Wemby prefers… nothing wrong with making your franchise player happy.

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    How have the rockets paid for two good role players while obtaining KD? I am confused. We have one max player and someone only have enough for a Tax payer MLE?
    They will need to S&T for Capela, looks like.

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    Can someone explain Spurs remaining $$? Can they combine rest of MLE and BAE?

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    Can someone explain Spurs remaining $$? Can they combine rest of MLE and BAE?
    cant combine, no. right now the amount we have via BAE exceeds the remaining MLE regardless of how kornet's deal is structured, if i understand correctly

    for that reason i think they might as well frontload kornet and just use the BAE on their next signing

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    So the roster is

    Fox, Harper/Castle, Wesley
    Castle/Harper, Champagnie, Branham
    Vassell, Johnson, Bryant
    Barnes, Sochan, ______
    Wembanyama, Kornet, ______

    TW: Ingram, Minix, ______

    It could be worse. I mean, I think it's sort of a crime if Branham and Wesley get to play out full rookie contracts despite not showing anything of note. That's especially true given how many high-seconds the Spurs have traded out of during the past few drafts. Is their scouting apparatus so atrophied that they can't find high-floor guys in the 20's and 30's anymore? It really feels like they made the shift in 2021 to chase ceiling rather than production and simply can't look at prospects through both lenses simultaneously.

    In terms of free-agent signings, I'd like to see the team get the best center they can that doesn't require a rotation spot. Maybe that's Biyombo. It would have been nice if it were a guy like Raynaud, but that's in the past now. For the 15th spot, I'd actually like them to look into another guard. I don't think the Spurs should be looking at Wesley and Branham as anything other than contracts at this point. They shouldn't intend on either of them getting even spot minutes. I've been split-balling roughly 124 minutes for Fox, Harper, Vassell and Castle to share. I think that can hold on an average night. But when there are injuries, rest nights, foul trouble or whatever, they really can't expect the others to take too many minutes to make up for that. Sure, depending on who it is, they can slide some forwards to play the 2. But it would be nice to have a guard who can play 10-25 minutes every once in a while and do better than Malaki and Blake. Then finally for the two-way, I'd really like the team to grab that developmental center that they don't have on the 15.

    So something like this could be the roster going into the season:

    Fox, Harper/Castle, Wesley
    Castle/Harper, Devonte Graham, Branham
    Vassell, Johnson, Champagnie
    Barnes, Sochan, Bryant
    Wembanyama, Kornet, Biyombo

    TW: Ingram, Minix, Mensah

    Place-holder names in italics

    I would be disappointed in this roster, but am sort of resigned to it in the wake of the Durant trade. I get that the Spurs are apparently keeping their powder as dry as they can for another trade, and they absolutely need to make the RIGHT trade. But with guys like JJJ extending and the current trend of players seemingly choosing to avoid direct free agency, I don't know what options they'll have. It seems like Giannis, Luka or bust at this point.

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    So the roster is

    Fox, Harper/Castle, Wesley
    Castle/Harper, Champagnie, Branham
    Vassell, Johnson, Bryant
    Barnes, Sochan, ______
    Wembanyama, Kornet, ______

    TW: Ingram, Minix, ______

    It could be worse. I mean, I think it's sort of a crime if Branham and Wesley get to play out full rookie contracts despite not showing anything of note. That's especially true given how many high-seconds the Spurs have traded out of during the past few drafts. Is their scouting apparatus so atrophied that they can't find high-floor guys in the 20's and 30's anymore? It really feels like they made the shift in 2021 to chase ceiling rather than production and simply can't look at prospects through both lenses simultaneously.

    In terms of free-agent signings, I'd like to see the team get the best center they can that doesn't require a rotation spot. Maybe that's Biyombo. It would have been nice if it were a guy like Raynaud, but that's in the past now. For the 15th spot, I'd actually like them to look into another guard. I don't think the Spurs should be looking at Wesley and Branham as anything other than contracts at this point. They shouldn't intend on either of them getting even spot minutes. I've been split-balling roughly 124 minutes for Fox, Harper, Vassell and Castle to share. I think that can hold on an average night. But when there are injuries, rest nights, foul trouble or whatever, they really can't expect the others to take too many minutes to make up for that. Sure, depending on who it is, they can slide some forwards to play the 2. But it would be nice to have a guard who can play 10-25 minutes every once in a while and do better than Malaki and Blake. Then finally for the two-way, I'd really like the team to grab that developmental center that they don't have on the 15.

    So something like this could be the roster going into the season:

    Fox, Harper/Castle, Wesley
    Castle/Harper, Devonte Graham, Branham
    Vassell, Johnson, Champagnie
    Barnes, Sochan, Bryant
    Wembanyama, Kornet, Biyombo

    TW: Ingram, Minix, Mensah

    Place-holder names in italics

    I would be disappointed in this roster, but am sort of resigned to it in the wake of the Durant trade. I get that the Spurs are apparently keeping their powder as dry as they can for another trade, and they absolutely need to make the RIGHT trade. But with guys like JJJ extending and the current trend of players seemingly choosing to avoid direct free agency, I don't know what options they'll have. It seems like Giannis, Luka or bust at this point.
    Champ is 6'8 I would slot him next to Sochan/before KJ. NVM I saw the rest of the post.

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    cant combine, no. right now the amount we have via BAE exceeds the remaining MLE regardless of how kornet's deal is structured, if i understand correctly

    for that reason i think they might as well frontload kornet and just use the BAE on their next signing
    The Spurs can still do something like trade Wesley and a second to Team X as part of a S&T deal with Boston in order to preserve their full MLE. I'd probably prefer they do that just to keep the MLE alive for a potential trade during the season. But they'll probably end up using a big chunk of it on Kornet.

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    still bummed at how cheap LaRavia could have been had compared to, say, NAW

    its also abundantly clear that moving keldon makes a ton of sense for them right now and therer are a couple of paths to make that happen, none that seem imminent or particularly likely

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    One of the best offseasons in years, guys

    The coaching staff upgrade, the stellar rookies, the back up center

    Are we done?

    Hopefully there is one more move.........

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    Well it's getting late and I wonder if the deals are done for the day. No word on Yabusele is puzzling and is Duncan Robinson still out there?
    Regarding Yabusele, I think Denver is in play and can beat any Spurs offer. To be honest, Denver is probably a better situation. They are contenders.

    This current Spurs roster is weird. Not sure if they plan on fixing it either.

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    Regarding Yabusele, I think Denver is in play and can beat any Spurs offer. To be honest, Denver is probably a better situation. They are contenders.

    This current Spurs roster is weird. Not sure if they plan on fixing it either.
    he'd have a bigger role for the spurs. he's competing with aaron gordon for PF minutes in denver. right now he'd be competing against sochan for the spurs

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    LaRavia would have been nice but I think Yabu is the Spurs guy.

    What if they gave Kornet the max 8% raises to make up that $41M that means the deal would start at $9M then 10-11-12 (roughly). That leaves $5M of the MLE they could give Yabu max raises on that too and go 3/$16M that prob gets it done.

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    still bummed at how cheap LaRavia could have been had compared to, say, NAW

    its also abundantly clear that moving keldon makes a ton of sense for them right now and therer are a couple of paths to make that happen, none that seem imminent or particularly likely
    would have been the prefect shooter at small money. Lakers got a steal

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    Ps I think Yabu would take the starting role over HB. If he signs here.

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    LaRavia would have been nice but I think Yabu is the Spurs guy.

    What if they gave Kornet the max 8% raises to make up that $41M that means the deal would start at $9M then 10-11-12 (roughly). That leaves $5M of the MLE they could give Yabu max raises on that too and go 3/$16M that prob gets it done.
    8% raises are only for Bird Rights contracts. Max raises the Spurs could give Luke would be 5%. I think it's more likely this is a descending deal.

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