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    Still I can’t believe this has gone on for this long.

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    The stupidity of this is off the charts. For the Knicks he is so redundant. Obviously, he plays behind Randle, maybe Portis and they probably don't even make the playoffs this year. Why go through all this? For Morris, with the Spurs you will either be the starter or a very prominent backup on a playoff team. If you are playing for a big payday next year you will likely be able to make up that 5 mill easy. Plus doing this will make teams hesitate to commit early.

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    if you get under the cap, you lose access to the MLE
    Yes, but you get the smaller room exception. They could go operate under the cap but it’s very hard at this point with Carroll and Gay on the books.

    And I don’t think Mills gets you enough of the way there to be able to open space for Morris at the $15mm level. Would need to move Demar or Aldridge to do that.

    Also, there is no cap space remaining to be able to shed those salaries with no money coming back, especially larger ones (Mills might fit into a trade exception).

    Most likely way to get Morris at more money is a sign and trade with Boston, and still have MLE for Bullock...

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    I'm sure Knicks promised him a starting role next to randle. Especially with the money being thrown at him.

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    I'm sure spurs already have a plan in place once he gives the word what he's going to do. This shouldn't drag on past today.

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    This whole show is the gift that keeps on giving. ing knicks, just stab us in the back already, quit sticking the tip of the knife in and pulling that out.

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    Just move on...the guy isn’t some game changer that deserves 50 pages of ST whinnying

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    I'm sure spurs already have a plan in place once he gives the word what he's going to do. This shouldn't drag on past today.
    I think that the buzz of a Beli trade may mean that they have something lined up if this falls through.

    For those of you who want the Spurs to pull their offer, the national media would immediately crucify them for doing so, and make THEM the bad guys. It's OK for players and agents to reneg, but not teams.

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    Just move on...the guy isn’t some game changer that deserves 50 pages of ST whinnying
    Ehh Spurs are probably a 4-6 seed with Morris. They are a 7-9 without him. Nobody else out there makes a difference so this is a pretty big deal for the Spurs. They probably could have made a harder push for someone like JaMychal Green or something if Morris just said he wasn't interested from the get go. He's 100% a difference maker for this Spurs team as its currently constructed though.

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    The way Kerr took minutes from Sjax and Manu in 03? The way Steve Smith took those minutes from Sjax and Manu in 03?

    If Lonnie is good enough, he'll play. Thats the bottom line, and that's been Pop's standard with young players since forever. You guys act like Pop is wrong for not playing scrubs more. Hill played. Kawhi played. Parker plaeyd. Manu played. SJax played. DEJUAN ING BLAIR PLAYED.


    Same ing argument 24/7 on this site. s tired.
    So much truth in this post!

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    Likely the reason for the time has been for Bullock's agent to obtain their own medical opinion as to the extent of Bullock's condition, likelihood of surgery, and overall fitness to play, and then to continue to negotiate. There's a lot of money on the line for Bullock, so one would be surprised if he just rolled over and took a minimum contract just because of the opinion of the physician the Knicks had perform the physical.

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    Ehh Spurs are probably a 4-6 seed with Morris. They are a 7-9 without him. Nobody else out there makes a difference so this is a pretty big deal for the Spurs. They probably could have made a harder push for someone like JaMychal Green or something if Morris just said he wasn't interested from the get go. He's 100% a difference maker for this Spurs team as its currently constructed though.
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    Likely the reason for the time has been for Bullock's agent to obtain their own medical opinion as to the extent of Bullock's condition, likelihood of surgery, and overall fitness to play, and then to continue to negotiate. There's a lot of money on the line for Bullock, so one would be surprised if he just rolled over and took a minimum contract just because of the opinion of the physician the Knicks had perform the physical.
    Bullock has no "condition". That's all just a pretext to re-negotiate the Knicks offer to him. He was held out of games because the Lakers were tanking. That's it.

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    The only silver lining in this Morris/Knicks/Klutch debacle is that after being fractured for years, this message board can finally find a common thing to agree on.

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    The only silver lining in this Morris/Knicks/Klutch debacle is that after being fractured for years, this message board can finally find a common thing to agree on.
    Now hold on just one minute

    Morris didn't actually sign a contract so he was still a free agent when the Knicks offered him a better deal

    Knicks don't have any actual obligation to not go after Morris if they feel he will improve their team

    Klutch's only goal as an agency is to find the best deal available for their clients-$$$


    (Now things feel more natural,board wise)
    Last edited by GusT15; 07-11-2019 at 09:43 AM.

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    Bullock has no "condition". That's all just a pretext to re-negotiate the Knicks offer to him. He was held out of games because the Lakers were tanking. That's it.
    Agreed, and Bullock has every incentive to challenge it. Not to mention that there's now the perception created by the Knicks that he's damaged goods.

    Teams insure player contracts, whatever additional cost there is for Bullock's due to his life threatening plantar fasciitis is not that significant. The Knicks haven't just signed Morris and told Bullock to go pound sand because that would create plenty of problems for them, starting with potential litigation. They've painted themselves into a corner here and unless they can get Bullock to agree to a 1 year deal with the room exception ($16MM reduction from the total guaranteed money in the original agreement) with a wink and a nod that he'll get more next season, they're going to have to bite the bullet and use their cap space on Bullock as they were originally.

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    Have they said why he failed the physical? Is it not illegal to basically fail someones physical just because you want to sign someone else? You would think this would be a type of slander towards Bullock as they are painting him as being damaged goods.

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    He gone boys. Time to move on from this two-faced re tbh.


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    Would think Spurs already know just planning next move

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    Then they think Bullock will take a wink and a nod deal.

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    Then they think Bullock will take a wink and a nod deal.
    They just have to drag til no team has more caps to sign him.

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    Knicks' front office is certainly going through a lot for a tier 2 or 3 free agent. Man, they suck so hard.

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    https://nypost.com/2019/07/10/behind...as-many-angry/

    Some agents are furious at Morris for looking to pull out of an agreement, which could put next year’s July free agency into a precarious spot. It’s not as if Morris is looking to break an agreement so he can play for a winner. In fact, just the opposite.

    San Antonio, which has one of the strongest winning cultures in the NBA, went to the length of trading away sharpshooter Davis Bertans to open up the cap space needed for Morris.

    Meanwhile, the woebegone Knicks have not made the playoffs in six straight seasons and look to be on the outside looking in again in 2019-20 after failing to land superstars Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.

    The Knicks have reportedly offered a one-year, $14.8 million deal to Morris.

    “[Spurs coach] Gregg Popovich has to be blowing a gasket,’’ one NBA source said.

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    Still hope that Madam Silver stops it. At the very least, there should be an investigation.

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