Videogames....

[leemajors]

i got around to downloading the enemy territory: quake wars demo for the pc last night, it's pretty fun! i haven't played a game on the pc in a couple years. have you played it yet enigma?

[maxpower]

Though I have to say...as much fun as Call of Duty 4 beta has been, it will be a tough decision come November 4th as to which game to focus online.

I also have been intrigued with Half-Life 2: Orange Box. I've never played Team Fortress but from what I read it seems to play like Return to Castle Wolfenstein(or better put, RtCW plays like Team Fortress).

But I can't imagine Halo 3 not being the top online game for months to come. The map editor, Forge, appears to be very powerful(console-speaking). The saved games feature is so ambitious and all-encompassing it is almost hard to believe it is not just pie in the sky dreams but in fact a working feature. Regardless of how you feel toward the Halo franchise, you can't deny H3 is bringing some features that have never been seen in console games...heck I would venture to say that the Saved Games feature is not even available to pc users, at least not in the way H3 uses it. Every online game you play is automatically saved by Bungie. You can then access it and review any aspect of the game.

[leemajors]

the ability to record online games has been present for years in quake, i'm not sure what you mean. i couldn't stand the bas ized team fortress for half life, it was a clunky pos, and not nearly as fun as the original team fortress in quakeworld.

[maxpower]

the ability to record online games has been present for years in quake, i'm not sure what you mean. i couldn't stand the bas ized team fortress for half life, it was a clunky pos, and not nearly as fun as the original team fortress in quakeworld.

What i mean is that every game played will be recorded automatically....as i understand it...i can see that you would have to enable the feature but unlike recording your pc games this will be an out of the box feature...no know-how required.

If the class system is anything near what RtCW was, I will be satisfied.

And ...although you can record your games no pc...does it actually record every aspect of the game? Can you see what any player in the game is doing? I would imagine on pc you can record whatever it is that is on your screen. Is that not the case? With H3's saved games feature you can replay every aspect of the game regardless of your character taking part in it.

[leemajors]

What i mean is that every game played will be recorded automatically....as i understand it...i can see that you would have to enable the feature but unlike recording your pc games this will be an out of the box feature...no know-how required.

If the class system is anything near what RtCW was, I will be satisfied.

And ...although you can record your games no pc...does it actually record every aspect of the game? Can you see what any player in the game is doing? I would imagine on pc you can record whatever it is that is on your screen. Is that not the case? With H3's saved games feature you can replay every aspect of the game regardless of your character taking part in it.

that sounds like a horrible logistical nightmare, i don't see how it would possibly work. it would take ridiculous amounts of storage space if every single game played was recorded.

edit: it looks like you can only view the clips within the game engine itself, which is kinda silly. I guess it makes sense for a console, though. you can also only save short clips, not actually edit entire movies.

Taking a page from its elderly Mac predecessor's book, Halo 3's saved films aren't films in the usual sense -- rather than record visual data, the game tracks the movements and actions of every active player, and the playback function literally plays the game, recreating every aspect of a recorded match. This has the obvious benefit of keeping the file sizes small; 10 minutes of 720p video would fill a good chunk of the Xbox 360 hard drive, but 10 minutes of input data is compact and easily swapped (via each user's individual public storage space).

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3162454

[DarkReign]

I think thats a pretty cool feature. Very cool, indeed.

I played CS:S for the first time in 2-3 years yesterday. That game still holds up (got my ass handed to me).

TBH, I just want H3 released so I dont have to hear about it anymore. The game is going to absolutely rock for those who are into it.

Bad news on the PC front.....Crysis demo delayed to Oct. 26th...only 3 weeks before actual release. Will come packaged with the SDK though, which is awesome for the modders of the world.

[dougp]

i got around to downloading the enemy territory: quake wars demo for the pc last night, it's pretty fun! i haven't played a game on the pc in a couple years. have you played it yet enigma?

It is EXTREMELY dissapointing. Does not live up to the legacy that is ET:RTCW.

As for the person who talks about Orange Box vs. Halo 3 vs. CoD4.

1) Buy TF2 for your PC - do not insult it like that. That will be the only PC game I buy for the rest of the year.

2) Halo 3 == DM game ... period. You can't compare it to CoD4.

3) CoD4 == MP GotY. Hands down, it is very deep if you look at the guns and perks, but the thing that wins me over is the hardcore mode. I cannot wait for that ...

[maxpower]

It is EXTREMELY dissapointing. Does not live up to the legacy that is ET:RTCW.

As for the person who talks about Orange Box vs. Halo 3 vs. CoD4.

1) Buy TF2 for your PC - do not insult it like that. That will be the only PC game I buy for the rest of the year.

2) Halo 3 == DM game ... period. You can't compare it to CoD4.

3) CoD4 == MP GotY. Hands down, it is very deep if you look at the guns and perks, but the thing that wins me over is the hardcore mode. I cannot wait for that ...

don't know what you mean by h3 being deathmatch game.

it set the standard for console fps shooter games.
by that I mean it is the most customizable console fps in terms of creating gametypes and the simple act of getting into games.

It's no wonder CoD 4 is copying Halo's party system. The proof will be in how customizable CoD 4 will be. I am getting the three games...most likely with Orange box being the odd man if necessary. However with it's single player component which I was halfway through on the original XB and with it having Portal(which looks fun for those who like thinking games) plus eps 1 and 2 it will not be left out...maybe only the time i would have to devote to team fortress 2. I can't see splitting time between H3, CoD4 and TF2 online.

But I would rather have this choice to make than not have anything worth playing......


p.s.
I played my share of RtCW on pc for about a year. I had some of my most memborable online gaming experiences with that game. It had one of the best communities I have ever known. The team play and cooperation was beyond anything since, save for Ghost Recon on Xbox. The consistent group of players I gamed with knew how to play team games.

That being said...outside of the people playing the game...I will choose to sit on my couch in front of my 60" tv with 5.1 surround sound 100% of the time to sitting upright staring at a 19" monitor getting carpal tunnel...spending the price of a 360 just for the graphics card to get slightly(?) better visuals.

[dirk4mvp]

does anybody know how much credit i can get from EBgames for Bioshock ? I want to keep it, but I won't have enough to buy both nba 2k8 and halo 3..and both of those come before any other game.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

does anybody know how much credit i can get from EBgames for Bioshock ? I want to keep it, but I won't have enough to buy both nba 2k8 and halo 3..and both of those come before any other game.

$25.00

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/trade-ins/trade-ins.asp

[dirk4mvp]

^ thanks.

[leemajors]

you can get carpal tunnel just as easily with an xbox controller... and you can get damn good video cards for under $200? my system runs ET: quake wars at 1680x1050 just fine, and the card i have cost $90 last christmas.

[sabar]

I've been playing Guitar Hero nonstop.
The solo on Because It's Midnite expert on Rock the 80's is near impossible to hit 100%. It's tough to nail it on hard too. Comes out of nowhere.

On a side note, Halo is still overrated. The only reason it's hyped up is that the console kiddies are experiencing features that the PC crowd has had for the last 10 years (replays, map editors, higher resolution, mouselook). CS/CS:S is still the best playing raw FPS.

[Trainwreck2100]

Train, are those Masterchief versions from Forge?

From what I've read, you unlock them somehow

[Slinkyman]

I've been playing Guitar Hero nonstop.
The solo on Because It's Midnite expert on Rock the 80's is near impossible to hit 100%. It's tough to nail it on hard too. Comes out of nowhere.

On a side note, Halo is still overrated. The only reason it's hyped up is that the console kiddies are experiencing features that the PC crowd has had for the last 10 years (replays, map editors, higher resolution, mouselook). CS/CS:S is still the best playing raw FPS.

I ing hate PC snobs

[dougp]

I've been playing Guitar Hero nonstop.
The solo on Because It's Midnite expert on Rock the 80's is near impossible to hit 100%. It's tough to nail it on hard too. Comes out of nowhere.

On a side note, Halo is still overrated. The only reason it's hyped up is that the console kiddies are experiencing features that the PC crowd has had for the last 10 years (replays, map editors, higher resolution, mouselook). CS/CS:S is still the best playing raw FPS.

Try again - Quake and Quake 2 are the best playing FPS, hands down.

[leemajors]

I ing hate PC snobs

snobs? you have freedom to customize on a pc, you're locked in on a console. console FPS' will always be lesser, it's just the way it is. console players are like keyboarders in quake 1 and 2.

[DarkReign]

Try again - Quake and Quake 2 are the best playing FPS, hands down.

Never liked either of them. CS:S will always be better, to me, because its much more realistic than Quake (go-go-magic rail gun!).

[DarkReign]

, BF2142 is better than any Quake, to me.

[dougp]

If you want realistic, talk about the R6 series - CS:S is Quake with modern day "guns" ... Gameplay, and out of pure fun? Q2, hands down.

[Xolotl]

I'm not into Nascar but I found this extremely funny


http://kotaku.com/gaming/lol/halo-ca...ace-302820.php

With the release of Halo 3 just days away the ultimate faceoff went down over the weekend at the Dover Speedway: Halo 3 took on the Wii in the form of a NASCAR racing pitting Greg Biffle versus David Stremme.

Exactly 306 laps into the 440 lap race Stremme's number 40 car blew its engine and sidelined the racer. No, I'm not making that up: The Halo car got a red ring of death.

Meanwhile Biffle's Wii mobile landed a respectable fourth place. Ouch.

[Slydragon]

Who is going to do the 12am Halo Launch and where?
I will be at the gamestop on Vance Jackson with this T shirt on

[DarkReign]

If you want realistic, talk about the R6 series - CS:S is Quake with modern day "guns" ... Gameplay, and out of pure fun? Q2, hands down.

No its not. Since when do people rocet jump in CS? Or endlessly bunnyhop? Or use rail guns?

Rainbow 6 is fine, if you like hardcore sims. I dont. But I dont like arcade-y, futuristic fragfests either.

CS:S, SoF2, etc are the perfect blend of realism but fun. Quake, UT, Halo...all futuristic abominations, IMO.

I realize thats just my opinion, but it is what it is.

[Cry Havoc]

I ing hate PC snobs

Yes, he's obviously just a PC snob. That's why he was talking about how awesome Guitar Hero is in the paragraph before. That's an AWESOME PC game, right?

No its not. Since when do people rocet jump in CS? Or endlessly bunnyhop? Or use rail guns?

Not to mention, you know, the whole "guns have recoil" thing.

You made a good point though. CS is the perfect blend of realism but not too much -- a lot like the GTA series. You want to talk about how unrealistic CS is? How fun would San Andreas be if every time you hit something in your car, at an unreasonable speed, your character died?

And yet, CS takes a massive amount of skill to play well. There have been times that I've picked people off from across a map without a zoomed weapon, just because I saw a tiny scrap of their head. That kind of control is what is so immensely satisfying about the game, and yet it moves fast enough that I never feel bored. And there is a great rock paper scissors element to it as well. Pistols up close with smoke work great against awps. Awps work well against rifles if the line of sight is clear. Rifles work well against.... everything, if you're good enough, but if you get crazy and forget to aim, you'll get deagled from 300 feet away.

[Mister Sinister]

No its not. Since when do people rocet jump in CS? Or endlessly bunnyhop? Or use rail guns?

Rainbow 6 is fine, if you like hardcore sims. I dont. But I dont like arcade-y, futuristic fragfests either.

CS:S, SoF2, etc are the perfect blend of realism but fun. Quake, UT, Halo...all futuristic abominations, IMO.

I realize thats just my opinion, but it is what it is.