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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Technically it varies with height and region but I imagine that 9.8 is a fair average value.

    Contrary to the above comic, I am, in fact, going to bed.
    It's the gravity constant we use in college physics....

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    You provided your equation, I gave you proof that your equation sucks.


    Do you know what a proof is chumpy?

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    Do you know what a proof is chumpy?
    Sure. I also know that you said the falling mass didn't increase one gram during the collapse. That is completely ridiculous and makes it rather easy to not take anything you say seriously.

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    It's the gravity constant we use in college physics....
    Which is an assumption as people wouldn't get far in a physics course with this:


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    K.I.S.S.....you know what I would like to see is someone who knows something about physics provide a hypothesis in this forum that will stand up to proof that the buildings could have collapsed in 10-12 seconds with no bombs...

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    K.I.S.S.....you know what I would like to see is someone who knows something about physics provide a hypothesis in this forum that will stand up to proof that the buildings could have collapsed in 10-12 seconds with no bombs...
    Why is anyone saying they collapsed in 10-12 seconds?



    Why is much of the core still standing?

    Wouldn't any controlled demolition have to have taken it out?

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    Oh look -- this part of the north tower stood for several seconds after the initial collapse:



    What controlled demo equation accounts for this?

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    What I wanna know is what made the core collapse....

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    And really, let's keep it very simple. Here's a typical floorplan of one of the upper floors of 2 WTC:



    Where does one place all the charges to cut all those columns undetected?

    Keep in mind all but one of the floors above 55 was fully occupied.

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    big fires, no collapse...







    small fire, collapse..

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    Don't try to change the subject with YouTubes of other buildings.

    Answer my question about 2 World Trade Center.

    Where would you place all the charges?
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    Obviously on the core column and trusses on the lower floors....


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    Obviously on the core column and trusses on the lower floors....
    1) The collapse started on the upper floors.

    2) The collapse progressed from the top down.

    3) At least a portion of each core was left standing for several seconds after the towers collapsed.

    You just struck out.

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    Here's a lower level floorplan from 1 WTC:



    As I said before, it's basically all elevators down there. Dan contends that all the elevator shafts were completely "sealed" and had been inaccessible to anyone since 1970.

    Where do you put the all the charges?

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    Pics don't lie...



    and the explosions traveled up the building


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    Since you claim there were explosions on multiple floors, tell me where the charges were placed on each floorplan.


    In occupied offices.

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    And please -- two tiny so-called "squibs" going off when the building was already in full collapse?

    Lame video.

    But please -- tell us where in each floorplan the charges were placed. They correspond roughly to the floors you claim to see squibs in.

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    I swear Chump must work for an insurance agency in the claims department. No matter what type of accident you have he will keep asking questions till you give up and fix your own car.

    At first I thought he was really curios but even when faced with the truth he stands his ground like a stubborn old man at a VA hospital refusing to let the doctor remove his boxers.

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    I ask yet again, for the 16th time.

    ARE THERE ANY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS OF VISIBLE EXPLOSIVE DEVICES?

    We all know the answer, but only one of us lacks the honesty to answer the question.


    ARE THERE ANY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS OF YOUR PARENTS HAVING SEX? NO........BUT YOUR HERE AREN'T YOU?

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    ARE THERE ANY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS OF YOUR PARENTS HAVING SEX? NO........BUT YOUR HERE AREN'T YOU?
    I saw his parents having sex...

    ...at the San Antonio Zoo.

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    ARE THERE ANY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS OF YOUR PARENTS HAVING SEX? NO........BUT YOUR HERE AREN'T YOU?

    Great analogy . . .

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    Great analogy . . .
    I actually think it is...

    a) His parents had sex (the building collapsed due to structural failure)

    or

    b) He's a product of invitro fertilization (the buildings were imploded)

    Which is more likely? The resulting pregnancy, birth, and maturation are the same, no matter the initiating factor.

    Of course, there's always...

    c) His mother was the town and there's no ing telling who is his father.
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    No, it's because Force is measured in newton-meters, but I'm sure if you're really a engineer you already knew that...

    No, force is measured in pounds (lbs) or Newtons. Newton-meters is force * distance, which is a torque or "moment".


    You and Galileo are dumb s.

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    Argument by physics is very weak IMO.

    You have to factor in friction, air resistance, a variable mass, and a variable opposing force. That is one nasty looking calculus equation that I seriously doubt anyone here can calculate, let alone a professional. Even if you assume the mass and forces are constant you are left with the gargantuan task of estimating those constants. Anyone can pick arbitrary numbers that both support and oppose the falling speed. Even modeling the falling speed of a basketball opposed only by air resistance is not easy and uses rather complex drag equations.

    Unless someone here has a PhD in mechanical physics, next.

    These equations are not solveable analytically, i.e. in closed form. They need to be solved numerically, i.e. simulated on a computer.

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    You and Galileo are dumb s.
    Captain Obvious has joined the discussion.

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