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    Again.

    JM3

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    I am so sick of politicians like @SenJohnMcCain who will say anything to get elected and refuse to vote on measures that will help Americans
    He is voting.

    Just not the way your dumb ass wants him to.

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    McConnell Plans Senate Vote on Healthcare Next Week
    The Graham-Cassidy healthcare bill was written by Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Bill Cassidy, R-La.,. It would give much of the money now directed to Obamacare to state goverments to spend.
    In general, the bill would move money from Democratic to Republican states. Graham and Cassidy have generally acknowledged this, when pressed, and sometimes justified it in the name of fairness.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sponsors-...230119341.html

    Republican weasels basically want to take more money from blue states to give it to red states. Look again at the map.


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    people who voted for mcccain and emailing him and telling him did not
    publically saying he will talk to the az gov and listen to him did not
    HE IS A FOOL
    You seem upset.

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    People Who Feared Obama Would Take Their Guns Happy to Have Trump Take Their Health Care




    WASHINGTON —Americans who feared that Barack Obama would come for their guns are happy that Donald Trump is coming for their health care, a new report finds.

    In interviews conducted across the country,

    people expressed satisfaction that, by taking away their ability to see a doctor rather than their ability to shoot people, the federal government “finally has its priorities straight.”

    “I couldn’t get a night’s sleep, worrying about Obama taking away my guns,” Carol Foyler, a gun owner from Kentucky, said.

    “Now that we have a President who’s just taking away my family’s health care, I can breathe easier.”

    Harland Dorrinson, a gun fancier from Wyoming, concurred.

    “In Europe, everyone has health care and no one has guns,” he said.

    “You couldn’t pay me to live there.”

    Noting that thousands of people die in hospitals every year, he added,

    “Health care has killed more people than guns have.”


    Tracy Klugian, a gun hobbyist in Florida, said he strongly supported the Trump Administration’s policy, which he summarized as,

    “If you like the guns you have, you can keep those guns.”


    He said that the prospect of becoming ill without health insurance does not concern him in the least.

    “If I get a disease, I’ll shoot at it,” he said.

    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/people-who-feared-obama-would-take-their-guns-happy-to-have-trump-take-their-health-care



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    McCain is a lying, back-stabbing RINO.

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sponsors-...230119341.html

    Republican weasels basically want to take more money from blue states to give it to red states. Look again at the map.

    GOP states could simply opt in to the expansion and get funding. The unfairness is self inflicted.

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    McCain is a lying, back-stabbing RINO.
    this notion that there is only one way to be a conservative.

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    McCain

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    McCain is a lying, back-stabbing RINO.
    that sounds more like trump.

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    Maverick gonna maverick

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    Just watched him on the PBS Vietnam series. Hero.

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    I've always liked McCain. The S&L thing was before my time but I feel how he responded to it was outstanding. He's been in the right place on campaign finance and gerrymandering.

    I primaried for him in 2008 and seriously considered voting for him prior to his VP choice.

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    Arizonans are frustrated by #Obamacare collapse- I won't stop fighting until we replace it w/ health care that works








    LIE LIE LYING MCIDIOT
    Or maybe he's telling the truth and the replacement is .

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    that sounds more like trump.

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    McCain doesn't have much to lose at this point. He most likely doesn't have much time left so I don't think he's worried about re-election. He can restore his "maverick" legacy with these votes while giving Trump another you and denying him a "win" on repealing the ACA as consequence for mocking his military service for being "captured".

    And honestly McCain is right. Republicans should be more transparent in this whole process. They're simply trying to pass a crap bill to score political points with their dip base. What is it about this bill that makes healthcare more affordable? How does it raise quality? How does it cover more people in the long run? If this bill is so great why are Republicans staying behind closed doors instead of taking their case to the American people and talking to them directly going point by point of how this is going to make their lives better? Why can't Donald "grand-wizard deal maker" Trump go out on the campaign trail and sell ANYTHING? What a fraud McCain will be the fall guy but the fact of the matter is the Republican party is complete and has been for awhile now. They've had 7 years of ing and when they get the chance to show the country that they can actually govern they Charlie Brown the out of it

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    Medicaid expansion under ACA as written was unsustainable. Where do you suppose that the states which accepted the expansion were going to get their increasing share of Medicaid - they cannot just print money or add to the deficit as the federal government don't they have to balance their budget? Take a look at the states' pension funding ratios:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...unding-ratios/

    Minnesota really dropped a lot from 2016 to 2017! Wonder what's going on there.


    With pension obligations like these, where do you think states are going to find the funding for Medicaid expansion to able-bodied people when most of them will struggle to pay their guaranteed benefits? The states which chose to decline Medicaid expansion did the fiscally responsible thing should Obamacare continue as written. And it's even worse:

    But here’s a fact that should tell you something: almost no other pension plans in the world are allowed to use the kind of accounting that U.S. state and local plans can. Corporate pension plans can’t discount their liabilities using the assumed return on investment. Nor can most public employee pensions in other countries.

    http://www.aei.org/publication/are-s...by-5-trillion/

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    Medicaid expansion under ACA as written was unsustainable. Where do you suppose that the states which accepted the expansion were going to get their increasing share of Medicaid - they cannot just print money or add to the deficit as the federal government don't they have to balance their budget? Take a look at the states' pension funding ratios:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...unding-ratios/

    Minnesota really dropped a lot from 2016 to 2017! Wonder what's going on there.


    With pension obligations like these, where do you think states are going to find the funding for Medicaid expansion to able-bodied people when most of them will struggle to pay their guaranteed benefits? The states which chose to decline Medicaid expansion did the fiscally responsible thing should Obamacare continue as written. And it's even worse:

    But here’s a fact that should tell you something: almost no other pension plans in the world are allowed to use the kind of accounting that U.S. state and local plans can. Corporate pension plans can’t discount their liabilities using the assumed return on investment. Nor can most public employee pensions in other countries.

    http://www.aei.org/publication/are-s...by-5-trillion/
    So it's not the same as health care at all.

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    So it's not the same as health care at all.
    Huh?

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    That was exactly my reaction.

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    I'm not sure that Bloomberg link is working:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...unding-ratios/

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    GOP states could simply opt in to the expansion and get funding. The unfairness is self inflicted.
    I was responding to this.

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    I was responding to this.
    Still no relation to state pensions. The dirty secret there is the fed will end up supporting those as well.

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    Still no relation to state pensions. The dirty secret there is the fed will end up supporting those as well.
    Don't you think these state politicians know the state of their pensions? That they KNOW they can't afford virtually unlimited (except for income)/unknown Medicaid match? That they will have to pay pensions before virtually anything else and that that affects their bond rating? What could they do except raise taxes?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/18/b...ty-to-pay.html

    And the feds are gonna bail out half of the states? Who pays for that?

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    Don't you think these state politicians know the state of their pensions? That they KNOW they can't afford virtually unlimited (except for income)/unknown Medicaid match? That they will have to pay pensions before virtually anything else and that that affects their bond rating? What could they do except raise taxes?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/18/b...ty-to-pay.html

    And the feds are gonna bail out half of the states? Who pays for that?
    No one really. It's just another pile on the debt. Republicans don't care about debt any more than Democrats.

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