Trouble in Crawford: "Why did my son die?"

[Nbadan]

Clear Channel stations are hosting a Pro-Bush/anti-Cindy Sheehan rally in Crawford and are inviting troops from Ft. Hood to come speak out against Cindy.

Update <2005-8-10 14:38:27 by patrioticliberal>: As someone posted below in a comment (JUST CONFIRMED), KLFX ("KLFX 107.3 The Fox Rocks") and their group stations, as well as KWTX 1230 AM (Waco) - 1-254-776-3900 (FOX NEWS RADIO), 102.5 FM,, and one more that is forgotten at this time, will be at the PRO-BUSH/ANTI-SHEEHAN rally. They are owned by Clear Channel. The Anti-Sheehan BBQ will be in the lot next to Crawford Bank, free burgers, soft drinks ("Coca-Cola"), and everything Saturday at NOON. a host named "JACK HAMMER" will be there and apparently is helping with this event. They are inviting soldiers from the Fort Hood area to come down and say that they would be ashamed of their mother if she did what Mrs. Sheehan is doing. Protest to KLFX! Their number is 1-254-699-5000, and YES, I'm keeping that number here. It's also publicly accessible

Is this outrageous or what?

[Nbadan]

Well, the good news from Camp Crawford is that police officials are now denying that they plan to arrest Cindy anytime soon. Also, the Clear Channel stations that were holding their 'support our troops' rally in Crawford has canceled the concert for now. Here is a statement by one of the station managers:

"Armstrong, Evan" <[email protected] > wrote:

In no way are making a PR event out of Cindy Sheehan's loss. This is a pro troops rally and we have had Cindy Sheehan on KWTX-AM last Monday to voice her cause. Thanks for your response. We welcome everyones opinion on this matter.

LATER, BACKPEDDLING:

Armstrong, Evan" <[email protected] > wrote: Please be advised that due to lack of local interest, the pro-troop rally tentatively scheduled by KWTX-AM, KLFX-FM for this coming Saturday will not be taking place. Please tune into KWTX-AM, KLFX-FM on Monday for comprehensive news coverage and commentary on developments related to the Iraq war protest organized by Mrs. Cindy Sheehan, scheduled to be held in Crawford this Saturday.

A lack of interest? Hummm.

[Dos]

why is free speech outrageous... probably because it's not left leaning... oh well!!

[whottt]

US troops are not allowed to have a partisan role in politics. IE they can't go around demonstrating.

Plus...conservatives have never been the protest movement...that movement is entirely liberal. A protest doesn't make someone the majority...it just makes them the loudest voice...which is probably why they think Bush isn't going to be re-elected when they see a lot of protests...and then are surprised when they get their ass handed to them in the Elections.

The baby that cries the most gets the most attention...that doesn't mean it's the only baby.


People were protesting Blair and Howard as well...leading most to conclude that those countries were blatantly anti-American...

Yet when the referendum on the war was held...they all got re-elected...

And my guess is that Schroder and Chiraq, the anti-Americans won't...I am not sure about Chirac...they are genuinely anti-American France and always have been...Chiraq's anti-Americanism actually could get him re-elected.

But it's going to be funny if, by the time the interntional referendum is over...all the pro-American leaders got re-elected...and all the anti-American ones are kicked out on their ass.

I think America is like the Dallas Cowboys...both the most hated and the most popular..but more popular than hated...I think it's the same way with these anti-war protest...I think their extreme stance isn't a majority stance..that's why they have to use sensationalistic stunts to get noticed.

[MannyIsGod]

Who ing cares is my response to this entire thread.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

US troops are not allowed to have a partisan role in politics. IE they can't go around demonstrating.

Plus...conservatives have never been the protest movement...that movement is entirely liberal. A protest doesn't make someone the majority...it just makes them the loudest voice...which is probably why they think Bush isn't going to be re-elected when they see a lot of protests...and then get their ass handed to them in the Elections.

The baby that cries the most gets the most attention...that doesn't mean it's the only baby.

WTF!?!? I guess all those right to life protesters at abortion clinics aren't really there? Please.

[Jekka]

Plus...conservatives have never been the protest movement...that movement is entirely liberal.

Because no one has ever protested at gay pride parades or abortion clinics.

[whottt]

touche...but I still see a lot more liberals protesting and causes than vice versa...and it was the liberals that first made it mainstream.


And those anti-abortion activists and anti-gay activists are just as stupid....and probably in the minority in this country.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Yeah, conservatives never did protest blacks going to school or trying to vote.
No, they never were the protesting type.

[whottt]

Those were Democrats doing that protesting buddy. Check your history.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

And those anti-abortion activists and anti-gay activists are just as stupid....and probably in the minority in this country.

I thought those were the true "conservatives" of the republican party.

[whottt]

Right...just like it was the Republicans that rounded up all the Japanese Amaricans during WWII and put them in interment camps.

[MannyIsGod]

Comparing party deeds to the deeds of the parties of the same name from decades past is foolish. Neither party is nowhere near what they were. Now we just have a useless pile of that likes with multiple personality disorder.

[JoeChalupa]

I concur.

[whottt]

Do me a favor..


Ernest Hollings
Orval Faubus
George Wallace
Lester Maddox
Al Gore Sr
Robert Byrd

Those were the leading segregationists...go look at which political party they belonged too.

Then go look and see who the first person was to de-segregate a segregated school. See what his politcal party was.

[whottt]

Comparing party deeds to the deeds of the parties of the same name from decades past is foolish. Neither party is nowhere near what they were. Now we just have a useless pile of that likes with multiple personality disorder.

Um...the Senior Democrat in Congress is an ex Klansman who fillibustered against the 1964 Civil Rights amendment...

He's still in congress...he opposed Condoleza Rice as the NSA...he opposed Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court...

[whottt]

And it's not the same...the Democrats pull the race card every chance they get, with their Klansman Pro Tempore..the Republicans don't.

[MannyIsGod]

Well thats ing dandy. If you're trying to use that as an arguement that Republicans are pro minoirty, I'm going to laugh because thats one of a good joke.

I don't care what they did 40 years ago, I care what they do now. And well, both of the parties exploit minorities and then forget about them.

[whottt]

They aren't pro-minority you are right...but they aren't anti-minority either, they are generally against any kind of favoritism or discrimination based on race....that's not being racist...it's just not being racist.

[Jekka]

whottt, I think you're doing yourself a disservice by equating liberal with Democrat and conservative with Republican - especially within historical context.

[MannyIsGod]

Why pick on brown people when you can pick on gay people instead?

[whottt]

Well thats ing dandy. If you're trying to use that as an arguement that Republicans are pro minoirty, I'm going to laugh because thats one of a good joke.

I don't care what they did 40 years ago, I care what they do now. And well, both of the parties exploit minorities and then forget about them.

And I've never exactly seen the Republicans accused of pandering to get the minority vote...that's the reason they get the racist label...

The Democrats switched from being anti-minority to portraying themselves as pro-minority...they have a history of playing race favorites...

The Republicans don't have a history of playing any kind of race favorites...but they do have a history of being against slavery and segregation....they have a history of promoting equal rights, not preferential rights...The Democrats are the ones that use minorities and they always have been, one way or another....

I realize they aren't the same ones as 40 years ago...but it's just funny that the Republicans have the racist label, when they have done to more to bring racial equality to this country while the Democrats have usually been opposed to it...it's just ironic.

But hey, as long as they tell you what you want to hear right?

And it's so easy to portray those conservative, whitebread, god-fearing Americans as the racists...when their major crime is not being image saavy..

[MannyIsGod]

You've never seen Republicans pandering to the minority vote? Give me a ing break. You're turning into Minivore here.

[whottt]

whottt, I think you're doing yourself a disservice by equating liberal with Democrat and conservative with Republican - especially within historical context.

Republicans have never been liberals, they have always been conservative...Democrats used to be more conservative...but they have always been considered the liberal party of the two.

Well people like to say the parties switched platforms in the 1960's...but that's not what really occured..the Democrats just went from being anti-minority, to pro-minority(in words) I call it a PR move...

And the white supremacists started jumping to the Republican side, not because they were racist...but because they weren't pro minority...

But the ultra religious conservatives WERE the ones against slavery, and even though they weren't de-segregationists...they ended up being the first to de-segregate as well.


And what do you guys mean brown people?

Mexicans have never been discriminated against in this country like Blacks...there was never a color barrier against Mexicans....yeah if they looked black there was...but it had nothing to do with what country they were from.

There was never color barrier against Mexicans in pro sports...they were never slaves in this country...

the Aztecs had enslaved every native tribe in Central America...

There is a whole world of difference between blacks and mexicans having minority status...Mexicans owned land in Texas from forever...those that fought against Mexico got to keep their lands.

Even native North American Indians never faced the descrimination blacks did.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, tell that to members of my family who were discriminated against in much the same way blacks were. Tell them it didn't happen. I would LOVE to see that.

[whottt]

You've never seen Republicans pandering to the minority vote? Give me a ing break. You're turning into Minivore here.

No I haven't...which is why they don't get it...and get the label of being the racist party. I mean it just depends on who the voting base is...