George Hill is a waste of time

[MarHill]

It is a fact that converting a college-level SG to a PG is indeed a risky proposition. Devin Harris is an example that readily comes to mind and he's faring well - though he struggled his first couple of seasons.

While it does take time for most, this kid Hill, seemingly has the right at ude and ap ude to get it done. On top of that, Hill will have the benefit of an established, structured offense, good coaching and great players around him.

Some common sense in the Spurs Talk forum!

There is hope....I was beginning to think that irrational Spurs fans were taking over!!

Thanks SenorSpur!!

[benefactor]

Some common sense in the Spurs Talk forum!

There is hope....I was beginning to think that irrational Spurs fans were taking over!!

Thanks SenorSpur!!

This trick is that you actually have to possess the ability to process information in a objective, logical manner before your fingers start moving up and down on the keyboard. Not all are capable and we should feel sorry for them and show tolerance as we do for all mentally handicapped people.

[John_C]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...n.451f2e3.html

“Coming from a mid-major (college), and not really playing a lot of point guard, it’s going to be a learning experience,” Hill said. “My job in summer league was to come here and feel the vibe of the point guard position and learn from my mistakes.”

There were lessons aplenty in Tuesday’s game, which was choppy for both teams, start to finish.

“The toughest part is just when to pass and when to score, because I was mostly a scorer in college,” he said. “Sometimes I try to get into the defense, rather than let the game come to me. It’s going to be a learning point, and I’m ready to step up and take that challenge.”


Hill is playing out of his comfort zone, and is trying to address his weaknesses through the summer league. He is trying to make the roster of the Spurs through a position that he has not been really known to be quite exceptional at. For a scorer to give up what he does best in order just to fill up the needs of a team, speaks well of the team mentality of the person.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...n.451f2e3.html

“Coming from a mid-major (college), and not really playing a lot of point guard, it’s going to be a learning experience,” Hill said. “My job in summer league was to come here and feel the vibe of the point guard position and learn from my mistakes.”

There were lessons aplenty in Tuesday’s game, which was choppy for both teams, start to finish.

“The toughest part is just when to pass and when to score, because I was mostly a scorer in college,” he said. “Sometimes I try to get into the defense, rather than let the game come to me. It’s going to be a learning point, and I’m ready to step up and take that challenge.”


Hill is playing out of his comfort zone, and is trying to address his weaknesses through the summer league. He is trying to make the roster of the Spurs through a position that he has not been really known to be quite exceptional at. For a scorer to give up what he does best in order just to fill up the needs of a team, speaks well of the team mentality of the person.

Wait a minute!!! We drafted a 6'2" two-guard with the 26th pick of the first round?!! Sonofabiscuit.


George who?



What the......











Where'd I park my car? What day is this?

[John_C]

Wait a minute!!! We drafted a 6'2" two-guard with the 26th pick of the first round?!! Sonofabiscuit.


George who?



What the......











Where'd I park my car? What day is this?

Lol, if you've had your car for years already, and you still get lost finding it, then what more for Hill who is playing a position he is not used to. Understand that we have prejudged Hill already with the statistics and early reports about him, and fail to understand that what he achieved in College is basically because of the SG position he is comfortable with.

Now, if Pop asks him to play SG and then he fails, then we maybe wrong to expect much from him. But if you continue asking the guy to work on his PG capabilities, and does a decent job at it, then he is not a failure by any standard.

[Sway]

ARe YOU GUYS CLUELESS.... the LAKERS were trying to trade into a first round pick to get him... the CELTICS were honing in on him... and the PACERS WITH OUT ANY SHADOW of a reasonable DOUBT would have picked him at 41 if by any of gods grace shined on them to let him stay in that long... if you think he would have lasted to 46.. your a fool and did no draft homework.... obviously you didn't because you didn't have a ing clue who he was until the name was called and half the NBA teams did.

Link?

[Spurtacus]

I have to admit my confidence in him after three games has diminished. We'll see about tomorrow. But remember that this guy is playing 30+ minutes a game consecutively.

[underdawg]

Link?

Don't have the link, but the Boston Globe had an article that stated that the Celtics had contacted Hill and said they would take him at #30 - according to Hill's agent. Take that for what it's worth.

[MarHill]

[QUOTE=SequSpur;2666659]He sucks.

0 for 10 in summer league? somebody needs to own up to this pick and admit they were wrong.... , I'm sure hill is a great guy... but got damn... this is about winning, filling needs, the spurs ed up....
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SequSpur,


In the day of prosperity be happy
But in the day of adversity consider
God has made the one as well as the other
So that man will not discover
anything that will be after him
{Ecclesiastes 7:14 NASB}

It is an old biblical truth....and one of my favorite scriptures!

It is perfect for extreme Spurs fans!!

[SPURSGOAT]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...n.451f2e3.html

“Coming from a mid-major (college), and not really playing a lot of point guard, it’s going to be a learning experience,” Hill said. “My job in summer league was to come here and feel the vibe of the point guard position and learn from my mistakes.”

There were lessons aplenty in Tuesday’s game, which was choppy for both teams, start to finish.

“The toughest part is just when to pass and when to score, because I was mostly a scorer in college,” he said. “Sometimes I try to get into the defense, rather than let the game come to me. It’s going to be a learning point, and I’m ready to step up and take that challenge.”


Hill is playing out of his comfort zone, and is trying to address his weaknesses through the summer league. He is trying to make the roster of the Spurs through a position that he has not been really known to be quite exceptional at. For a scorer to give up what he does best in order just to fill up the needs of a team, speaks well of the team mentality of the person.

[tlongII]

Oh, they don't?

2008 NBA PRE-DRAFT CAMP SCHEDULE

Tuesday, May 27: 6:00 PM Drills

Wednesday, May 28: 9:00 AM Drills, 11:00 AM Games, 5:00 PM Games, 6:30 PM Games

Thursday, May 29: 9:00 AM Drills, 11:00 AM Games, 5:00 PM Games, 6:30 PM Games

Friday, May 30: 9:15 AM Games, 11:15 AM Games, 1:15 PM Games

So I lied. Big deal.

[AFBlue]

One thing is for sure...it's going to be a longer road to backup PG than the Spurs FO and most posters on here envisioned. I wouldn't be surprised to see him spend most, if not all of this year with the Toros.

Having said that, I don't think you can surmise anything more than "he's not ready yet" from his first two games. You do have to wonder if he's ever going to get it, but there's no way you close the door on him after 2 summer league games.

[Gino2882]

This makes the pick even more puzzling right now. Hill played little PG and really doesn't have great decision making. The give him time only goes so far. He played in a conference and played the 2 guard, and the Spurs want him to backup Tony Parker and play meaningful minutes. It is a lot to ask.

I just don't see this as a great fit.

[AFBlue]

It is a fact that converting a college-level SG to a PG is indeed a risky proposition. Devin Harris is an example that readily comes to mind and he's faring well - though he struggled his first couple of seasons.

While it does take time for most, this kid Hill, seemingly has the right at ude and ap ude to get it done. On top of that, Hill will have the benefit of an established, structured offense, good coaching and great players around him.

Well said on his at ude and ap ude, but I'm honestly not sure the ability is there.

I like the Devin Harris comparison very much...good defensive ability, length, and speed. Harris is probably his ceiling from a scoring perspective, but you can tell that the Spurs are trying push him beyond the scoring aspect by focusing his game as a distributor/playmaker. If he can work in that direction, he might actually have more success than Devin.

Still, it's a long way from Hill to Harris at this point and Spurs fans are going to need to be patient....and they've got plenty of time with his multi-year guaranteed contract a virtual certainty.

It will be interesting to see him develop, and I really hope he can make the successful transition....though I still remain skeptical.

[Gino2882]

The three games I have seen of Hill shows me ABSOLUTELY nothing close to Devin Harris. Harris has tremendous speed and out of this world quickness. Hill is having trouble getting by summer leaguers right now.

Devin Harris is on Tony's level in terms of end to end speed and quickness.

[Tmac&Luther]

I never heard about George Hill before the Spurs grabbed him.

[SenorSpur]

The three games I have seen of Hill shows me ABSOLUTELY nothing close to Devin Harris. Harris has tremendous speed and out of this world quickness. Hill is having trouble getting by summer leaguers right now.

Devin Harris is on Tony's level in terms of end to end speed and quickness.

You missed the point. It wasn't a comparison to Devin Harris. I merely brought up the example to illustrate how the conversion process takes time. If I recall correctly, Devin was in his 3rd or 4th year before he began to show promise. Of course, his stunted development can be attributed to the maniacal coaching stranglehold of Avery.

[SequSpur]

this guy is 2 for 26 now? WTF?

[knee-knee-3]

It does look bleak, but let's wait till midseason to start jumping off bridges.

[Indazone]

I don't understand why the Spurs are forcefeeding him into the PG position when he's natural at the 2 guard. Why not play him at the 2 guard for the next 2-3 games and see what he can really do.

[Budkin]

You can't really argue the point. The guy is not good. Period.

[knee-knee-3]

I don't understand why the Spurs are forcefeeding him into the PG position when he's natural at the 2 guard. Why not play him at the 2 guard for the next 2-3 games and see what he can really do.

Because the FO's long term plans conflict with your short term paranoia.

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs fans never learn.

[Gino2882]

I don't understand why the Spurs are forcefeeding him into the PG position when he's natural at the 2 guard. Why not play him at the 2 guard for the next 2-3 games and see what he can really do.

Because he was drafted with the hopes of being the backup PG. I think he will get time there throughout the season, but he needs to work on his PG skills during summer league and preseason. If he plays a role this season with the Spurs it will be as the backup PG.

[I. Hustle]

As long as Hill defends he will end up as TP's backup. If he can't get that down he won't get any minutes. F the summer league I want to see these guys in preseason action. Play some real comp.