manu should be dealt

[Southwest Texas Fan]

What is wrong with you people? Manu is still recovering from his surgery and is still not in game shape. Did you see how he was hustling last night after rebounds and loose balls and plus the team was tired from the night before which seemed pretty obvious. It seems that they still hadn't gotten over losing to the Hornets. Manu is not going anywhere so when he's winning games for us in Arpil, May and June I will bump this thread.

[vander]

therefore AFTER 25 games you have NO PROVE of this so called estimated over creative post of yours... you should stop posting dude for real you have already damaged your image and you're about to build a "don't even read his posts" ala "mrspurs" kind of reputation... get real already...

do you have the stats to prove this?

[angelbelow]

this is completely ridiculous.

[Kori Ellis]

What is wrong with you people? Manu is still recovering from his surgery and is still not in game shape.

I keep repeating that over and over about both Manu and Tony. Neither of them are in game shape yet. They get tired easily and obviously don't have all their legs back. And the only way to get through that is for them to play games obviously. So Spurs fans are going to just have to be a little more patient.

[xtremesteven33]

I keep repeating that over and over about both Manu and Tony. Neither of them are in game shape yet. They get tired easily and obviously don't have all their legs back. And the only way to get through that is for them to play games obviously. So Spurs fans are going to just have to be a little more patient.

funny how you say that,

I think this is what seperates Great players from Good players.

A Great player can come back not so long after being out with an injury and still dominate the game (Duncan,Bryant,Lebron)

Good players need time to get it together and mesh back with the team.

[mexicanjunior]

funny how you say that,

I think this is what seperates Great players from Good players.

A Great player can come back not so long after being out with an injury and still dominate the game (Duncan,Bryant,Lebron)

Good players need time to get it together and mesh back with the team.

I think it's more a testament to the role players not being able to pick up the slack while the stars work their way back in against the top tier teams...

[EVAY]

I think that instead of trading Manu we should hold Pop to his word and make him start Manu. The porblem with that plan, though, is somehow forcing the offense to handle all three of our best scorers at once. I agree that Manu is in a funk. It is obvious. I don't think it is physical. It is emotional. He came back strong after his surgery, Pop made him a starter, and then Tony came back and Manu gets forgotten. Then Pop went back to Finley as a starter, and Manu is effectively "demoted" again. I know he says the right things to the media about coming off the bench, but his play suggests otherwise. When Manu starts, Tony has to be forced to get the ball to him often enough to get him into the game.

If we don't do something to make Manu a better, more important part of our offense, we are gonna lose him when his contract is up because the offense has jacked him around so much.

Tonu just looks uninterested most of the time, and I have been one of Tonly's biggest supporters over the years.

[vander]

you have already damaged your image and you're about to build a "don't even read his posts" ala "mrspurs" kind of reputation... get real already...

here's some Image fodder for you:

I'll sign [a pe ion] for giving Bonner more playing time

Matt Bonner could fix our SF problems, If only Pop knew he was on our team

Trade Fodder

just waive Bonner

A certain Matt Bonner leads the Team in +/-
despite being on the court with TP all to often

there'll be more where this came from after Ginobili makes what I already know obvious to even the likes of you.

get used to being wrong

[beachwood]

Then Manu is bigger than the Spurs if you believe this.

No, I just believe Manu is the type of player you stick with through thick and thin. He's not done yet.

[Austin_Toros]

are We All Forgetting That Manu Cost Us The Finals Series Against The Dallas Mavs????????

[mexicanjunior]

are We All Forgetting That Manu Cost Us The Finals Series Against The Dallas Mavs????????

Without Manu, the game isn't even that close. He made a mistake against Dirk on the last play but had done very well up to that point in getting the Spurs back in the game...

[superbigtime]

Manu is so ing frantic, chaotic, and helter skelter lately. Playing out of control. Out-faking himself more than the defense. Quit playing like such a ing spazz Manu. The offense is going flat when he comes in. Mason quits shooting. They're just standing around watching Manu take bad shots. The Spurs are gonna go as far as Manu goes and right now he's going ing nowhere.

[xtremesteven33]

are We All Forgetting That Manu Cost Us The Finals Series Against The Dallas Mavs????????

"...a day that shall go down, in Infamy..."

[Austin_Toros]

Great proposal to trade Manu. As athletic an energetic as he used to be, Manu was a stimulus to his teammates who are general old. But not any more is he a stimulus as he is among the old group now. We all loved his hair but the age has taken most of his hair which is located on the central part of his head.

I totally agree. Trade Manu, he isnt worth it anymore. His game has deflated in 2 years. And that stupid silver medal in this past Olympics made his legs even worse. Last night he couldnt stay up in the air long enough to make his normal easy layups. If someone with a young team needs a veteran guard and has a big better then the scrubs we have right now then by all means. Dont let the door hit ya on the way out. I want the Spurs to win. I could care less who they trade in order to make the Spurs win. For me its always silver and black first. Players second.

Agree with you. With his age, soon past his prime, and the injury from this past summer his value is down more than it was even a year ago. I don't care if his shooting % is a little higher those other factors are still out there.

YES! people in this forum actually have some sense!

[vander]

are We All Forgetting That Manu Cost Us The Finals Series Against The Dallas Mavs????????

that's a poor argument, you are hurting your own case here. that mistake had nothing to do with ability, nothing that alluded to an ongoing or growing problem

[Austin_Toros]

that's a poor argument, you are hurting your own case here. that mistake had nothing to do with ability, nothing that alluded to an ongoing or growing problem

i realise that.
its just that i will never forget what he did because i wanted spurs to win that series soo badly for mike fin (against former team)

[phxspurfan]

No freaking way. At times, Manu drives me crazy, both ways, as much as any Spurs player. But there's no freaking way the Spurs can or should trade him. He's too great f a player. There's an old NBA axiom that you never trade away a HOF player. Manu is exactly that.

Gary Payton
Karl Malone
Shaquille O'Neal
Jason Kidd
Steve Nash

(I won't discuss whether trading these guys made their teams better though...)

[Bender]

I don't really enjoy watching him anymore. Sometimes I cringe when he get the ball.

[mexicanjunior]

Steve Nash

(I won't discuss whether trading these guys made their teams better though...)

I don't think Nash was considered a HOF when he left the Mavs...also, I didn't think that was a trade...

[Josepatches_]

I really don't want to trade Manu or Tony.I would like to win another tle with them.But I don't want to be like the Utah Jazz after their 2 NBA finals against the Bulls.I don't want to fight only to be in the playoffs without chance to win.
This year I'm sure we still can have chance to win the NBA,maybe 2 years more but in the future....well,everything depends on how TD can play.
IMO the best could be the reconstruction of the team.When Duncan goes down we can't built a championship team around Tony or Manu.We could fight to avoid the lottery but not much more.I hope and I believe that we aren't yet at this point.

So maybe next year or in 2 years could be the time to think about trade Manu or Tony or both them.Not today

[urunobili]

here's some Image fodder for you:

A certain Matt Bonner leads the Team in +/-
despite being on the court with TP all to often

there'll be more where this came from after Ginobili makes what I already know obvious to even the likes of you.

get used to being wrong

I haven't changed my mind about Bonner... it seems you have jumped on his bandwagon a lil too early.. we'll talk about that again after the season is over... now back to the topic.. how r u going to prove that Manu has lost a step? can you?

[vander]

I haven't changed my mind about Bonner... it seems you have jumped on his bandwagon a lil too early.. we'll talk about that again after the season is over... now back to the topic.. how r u going to prove that Manu has lost a step? can you?

check the dates, I rode in on the bonner "bandwagon"
and now I'm being proven right
and re read my posts, I don't need to give you stats, If stats are the only aspect of basketball that you can comprehend, well that's not my problem. Manu will be proving me right night in and night out, but you'll have to take off the homer goggles to see it.

[kuato]

lets just remember that manu cost us the conference finals series against dallas mavs!!

You are on drugs.

[Brazil]

I was w/o tv and internet during a couple of days (beach time).

I saw the scoreboards of this ing btb and wow TP 3-17 last night... I was thinking OMG spurstalk must be on fire with 50 trade parker threads and finally it's pretty calm and Manu is taking the storm also.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Manu is averaging 16/4/4. He's shooting higher from the field than he ever has in his career, and he's averaging less turnovers than last season. And he's coming off an ankle surgery and still not in Manu-mode yet.

The people that want to trade Manu and Tony for a mediocre center are just nuts.

Thread OWNED. /thread

Manu is our closer and the soul of this team. He isn't even fully fit yet and certainly hasn't found his driving or shooting rhythm. It's still DECEMBER for sake.

Trading Manu would be insane.