Is the dislike for Tony by Spurs fans a product of some sort of weird French racism

[J.T.]

This coming from the girl whose posts generally consists of 90% smileys.

I know it's Christmas and all, but if I buy a speedball for you, will you shoot it up all at once and kill yourself?

[J.T.]

Here's a hint to all the haters ...whether it's ducks blindly hating Manu or you acting like a constant fool about Parker ... the New Year brings new things at SpursTalk. So don't expect to be able to continue posting here if you keep it up.

Merry Christmas.

Oh the FCC finally got its hands on SpursTalk

[DAF86]

The answer is very simple: some Manu's fans bash Tony, some Tony's fans bash Manu but like Manu has a lot more fans the Tony "bash" is a lot more noticeable.

And don't blame this on us Argies, there are lot of us who like Tony and there a lot less Argentines Tony bashers that non-Argentines ones. Just look at "pounding the rock" 99% of the people in there don't like Parker and just 1% of them are Argies.

[french bread]

[kbyanks21]

the thing is, that spurs fans know that the first chance tony has to bail on SA he'll do it. he loves the attention and would LOVE to be in LA. he's so buddy-buddy with kobe before spurs-lakers games. and i don't think spurs fans don't like him, it's just that we know that this relationship won't last forever.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

if someone bash manu because he likes tony, it's just stupid. no doubt about it. i don't even understand this thing. and i think you only have to look my post to know i really like manu (since he played in europe).

but look at the number of bashing and praising threads for both players, and even for all spurs players, and tell me again that tony hasn't a special treatment here ?? be serious. that doesn't mean some members don't act like assholes about manu. i agree. and maybe i'm more sensitive about it when it's about tony since i'm french but once again don't deny the fact that there's nothing comparable in both player's treatment here.

I'm not getting what bothers you exactly... what does it matter who get's more praise? The problem here is people feeling like they need to bring down one to make the other one look better. Those types of idiots populate both sides of argument in equal percentages.

P.S. I am thoroughly convinced you are not one of these people, you don't have to clear that up Kace. Your posting record speaks for itself.

[ChumpDumper]

Nah! I think Parker has just been trying to do it on his own and it has caused the team to suffer. He needs to drive and kick more. His D has been awful if you ask me, thats the thing Im most worried about.

[stéphane]

I'm not getting what bothers you exactly... what does it matter who get's more praise? The problem here is people feeling like they need to bring down one to make the other one look better. Those types of idiots populate both sides of argument in equal percentages.

P.S. I am thoroughly convinced you are not one of these people, you don't have to clear that up Kace. Your posting record speaks for itself.

I'm not sure about him but you should know what can be annoying at times dude.
You're a long time poster and you have an argentinean flag. I mean, didn't you ever got judged as a Manu homer before opening your mouth just because of it?
Sometimes it's frustrating to keep hearing the same BS each time you want to discuss with some poster. They don't even want to hear what you have to say because well if you're french you're just a bandwagonner Tony lover and not a spurs fan (and same goes with argentineans/Manu).
That's what's annoying (for me at least).

[stéphane]

Nah! I think Parker has just been trying to do it on his own and it has caused the team to suffer. He needs to drive and kick more. His D has been awful if you ask me, thats the thing Im most worried about.

Remind me not to ask you anything because you've obviously never set a foot on a basketball court.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm not sure about him but you should know what can be annoying at times dude.
You're a long time poster and you have an argentinean flag. I mean, didn't you ever got judged as a Manu homer before opening your mouth just because of it?
Sometimes it's frustrating to keep hearing the same BS each time you want to discuss with some poster. They don't even want to hear what you have to say because well if you're french you're just a bandwagonner Tony lover and not a spurs fan (and same goes with argentineans/Manu).
That's what's annoying (for me at least).

don't get me started on that

[stéphane]

don't get me started on that

[Harry Callahan]

I've seen all of the Spurs PGs play and Tony is easily the best of the bunch. I have no problem with Parker and the best thing about him was he started almost from day one and is still only 26 years old.

If the Spurs wanted to trade Tony Parker today, they would get A LOT for him.

[50 cent]

Who is the blond chick at the bottom of your sig? She looks really familiar.

Kimber from Nip/Tuck.

I've seen all of the Spurs PGs play and Tony is easily the best of the bunch. I have no problem with Parker and the best thing about him was he started almost from day one and is still only 26 years old.

If the Spurs wanted to trade Tony Parker today, they would get A LOT for him.

There is absolutely no way the Spurs should even consider a trade for Parker at this point in his career unless it's for Chris Paul or Lebron.

Manu is the one that should be being shopped. Manu is older and injury prone on the downside of his career and we should try to get some value for him (like getting SJax back).

Tony is just about to enter his prime and there is no way in the Spurs should ever consider trading him.

For some reason, it's blasphemy on here to talk about trading Manu, but the idea of trading Tony is perfectly acceptable when it should be just the opposite when you look at it from a rational, longtime Spurs fans point of view.

[hater]

You can usually tell how long someone has been a hardcore Spurs fan by their view of Parker. Any long time Spurs fan is thankful to finally have a stable point guard who also happens to be one of the best ten in the league. That's literally something the Spurs have never had. Silas, Moore and Strickland were talented but they both didn't last long. It's very rare to find a long time Spurs fan who complains about Parker on a regular basis.

New Spurs fans who hopped on board after the Spurs were in their championship mode don't have the experience of suffering without a point guard for basically the entire existence of the franchise. You can't really blame them for nitpicking but that nitpicking is dumbfounding to those of us who lived through times when players like Greg Sutton and Matt Othick seemed like promising point guard prospects.

I also can't blame the Argentine fans because Argentine point guards all just bring the ball up and pass it literally about 99% of the time. It's probably a shock going from watching someone like Pepe Sanchez who will pass every time up the court right away to someone like TP who sometimes is asked to go a number of possessions without passing.

one of the few decent post this poster has ever written tbh

props

[EVAY]

The team is better than we were in 2008. Doesn't mean that we cannot possibly win without Parker, but it for sure will be infinitely more difficult.

Like Timvp and apparently you, I suffered through all the pg years of watching wretched games. But there was a time when defense was the only thing important (our first 'ship) and I loved those days. But even then, remember Avery Johnson bringing the ball up the court, giving it to Tim/David, and getting out of the way except to bark out whatever orders Pop told him to bark out. Remember how Avery would try to lineup a shot every once in a while and, god love him, he would take so long to get the shot off that today he would have five opponents and 3 refs taking the ball away from him.

Even Tony only had that role for the first year or so. Just geev thee boll to Teemy and get out of the way. Then when Tim started slowing down, Pop finally changed the offense to the motion offense that it is now.

And this is the best personnel we have had in years. We are less dependent on our big three than we used to be. But we sure do need them to be the best we can be.

[DarrinS]

I'll admit that I wasn't a TP fan until he developed that jump shot.

That being said, the current team is better equipped to deal with his absence.

[Mikeanaro]

Lol is not racism, I don´t like his style Timvp is right every time he steps into the court white foam comes out of my mouth.