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  1. #126
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    Parker went from shooting 67% from the line in his rookie season to 80% this year. That's a huge improvement. His jumper improvement isn't up for debate because it just has improved. That's evident whether you like it or not. So it's possible, and it isn't a shot in the dark if you have the tools to do so.
    Parker definitely improved. But he's still not an elite shooter. It's not something he's comfortable with.

    When guarding Parker he must make 2-3 from outside before you need to start guarding him. With MJ and Kobe you simply don't leave them open from the perimeter. Once they get going and in the zone with their shooting it could be too late.

    Lebron is an even worse shooter than Parker. Whatever improvements he makes will be marginal at best IMHO. A tiger can't change his stripes, by the time you are 6 years into the NBA you pretty much are who you are.

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    F'in parker's jumper is a big part of them being able to stay on top of the suns, he's improved a lot. Suns adapt to endure duncan and then parker starts hitting outside shots... *sigh*

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    I would honestly say Parker is one of the best midrange jumpshooters in the League. The whole "he has to make 2-3 jumpers before you guard him" thing just doesn't work anymore, and hasn't for quite some time. He is pretty good at open three's as well, but its not part of our offense for him to be shooting three's obviously; we have a load of 3pt shooters.

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    I would honestly say Parker is one of the best midrange jumpshooters in the League. The whole "he has to make 2-3 jumpers before you guard him" thing just doesn't work anymore, and hasn't for quite some time. He is pretty good at open three's as well, but its not part of our offense for him to be shooting three's obviously; we have a load of 3pt shooters.
    Are you in high???!!! "best midrange jumpshooters in the league"???

    Talk about homers

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    Parker is an acceptable midrange shooter.

    But he is by no means the best or even close to the best. If I'm drawing up my gameplan I'm giving Parker the midrange jumper until he proves he can make them.

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    Parker definitely improved. But he's still not an elite shooter. It's not something he's comfortable with.

    When guarding Parker he must make 2-3 from outside before you need to start guarding him. With MJ and Kobe you simply don't leave them open from the perimeter. Once they get going and in the zone with their shooting it could be too late.

    Lebron is an even worse shooter than Parker. Whatever improvements he makes will be marginal at best IMHO. A tiger can't change his stripes, by the time you are 6 years into the NBA you pretty much are who you are.
    Best player in the league so that's ok.

  7. #132
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    Michael Jordan wasn't know for his midrange fadeaway J 6 years into his career.

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    Michael Jordan wasn't know for his midrange fadeaway J 6 years into his career.
    I've already addressed this. Please learn how to read.

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    Whatever improvements he makes will be marginal at best IMHO. A tiger can't change his stripes, by the time you are 6 years into the NBA you pretty much are who you are.
    No reason LeBron can't develop a back-to-the-basket game as his career progresses- or a hook shot like the one Magic (who also wasn't a natural shooter) developed. You're underestimating his ap ude and basketball IQ if you assume he won't make any improvements to his game.

  10. #135
    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Give me Kobe any time to win a game.

    With the Pacers game-winner, Kobe tied Jordan's record of game winning shots. I think it's pretty safe to say Kobe will have more game-winning shots than even His Airness by the time he's done.

    LeBron has a long ways to go in this department.

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    No reason LeBron can't develop a back-to-the-basket game as his career progresses- or a hook shot like the one Magic (who also wasn't a natural shooter) developed. You're underestimating his ap ude and basketball IQ if you assume he won't make any improvements to his game.
    When MJ came into the league he averaged nearly 85% from the F/T line. His shooting touch was already there. Transitioning to the midrange game was relatively painless for him because he was already a pretty good shooter. It was just a matter of practice for him.

    Let's look at Lebron. He came in averaging around 75% from the F/T line and actually got progressively worse the next 3 seasons shooting 74%, 69%, and 71%. He's finally shooting around 78% this season which marks the first time in his career where he has improved upon his percentages since coming into the league. Lebron's problem is more than just practice. It's shooting mechanics and form. That is a far more serious problem to address at this stage in his career.

    I've been around the NBA for a long time. Players typically don't change who they are after 5-6 seasons in the NBA. It just doesn't happen that often.

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    I love kobe's nuts as much as any of you lakers fans,

    But all this talk about how lebron will not improve is just wishful thinking on your part. You just can't stand him to become better than kobe, can't you?

    Stop bringing like "shooting touch", lebron has greatly improved his ft% and mid range game a lot, who'se to say he won't improve it even more?

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    I do agree with D&C though that LBJ mechanichs are just bad. All of the great shooters have some "imperfection" to their mechanics, guys like Peja or Reggie come to mind. But LeBron's are just bad. However, most basketball guys that I know tell me that learning how to shoot isn't that difficult of a thing, with practice everyone can improve, and LeBron has. Now, is he gonna be MJ level? Probably not, but as everyone has said, LeBron doesn't have to have the skills of a Kobe or MJ. His physical attributes alone make him one of the most unique players the game has ever seen.

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    Are you in high???!!! "best midrange jumpshooters in the league"???

    Talk about homers
    Uh, no. The other guy is a Suns fan first off - the anti-Spurfan. This isn't 2004 Parker anymore. His jumpshot is tremendously improved, again one of the best in the L.

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    I've already addressed this. Please learn how to read.

    All I see from Lakerfans is how good Kobe's tasts. I dont' care to read that.

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    All I see from Lakerfans is how good Kobe's tasts. I dont' care to read that.
    It tastes great. Best I ever tasted.

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    Parker is an acceptable midrange shooter.

    But he is by no means the best or even close to the best. If I'm drawing up my gameplan I'm giving Parker the midrange jumper until he proves he can make them.
    He already proved that back in the 2007 Finals.

  18. #143
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    Uh, no. The other guy is a Suns fan first off - the anti-Spurfan. This isn't 2004 Parker anymore. His jumpshot is tremendously improved, again one of the best in the L.



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    Lebron is not that bad at shooting though he misses some shots frequently. He always hit the 3s when his team needs his points urgently.

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    Give me Kobe and Shaq any time to win a game.
    fixed.

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    Nah, Kobe will win without Shaq this year. It's not just coincidence that Kobe is tied with Jordan in game winners.

    We'll see who has the will to win this year, Kobe or LeBron or <insert your favorite player here>. Whoever holds the ring at the end of the year is the winner, the other the loser.

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    Nah, Kobe will win without Shaq this year.
    And if he does I'll be the first to say Kobe > LeBron.

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