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LOLZ. Kings already trying to get rid of Beno's contract.
M.Stein
Salmons is the Sacramento player generating the most interest.
The Mavericks and Kings have been exchanging proposals involving the 29-year-old for some time. Portland and Oklahoma City also are frequently linked with Salmons.
San Antonio, meanwhile, is in the hunt as well, pursuing Salmons -- with an offer of Bruce Bowen and Ime Udoka -- as a far more affordable trade target for its perimeter rotation than Vince Carter. New Jersey's Carter has tempted the small-market Spurs for days but can be absorbed by them only in a hugely expensive and complicated deal.
The Mavericks have been offering Jerry Stackhouse's virtual expiring contract ($7 million this season, only $2 million guaranteed next season) and Brandon Bass ($826,000) to the Kings since this past summer, when Sacramento was shopping Ron Artest. The biggest obstacle for Dallas on a Salmons deal has been the Kings' insistence that the Mavericks -- lacking draft picks to sweeten the deal -- also take back guard Beno Udrih, who has four years and nearly $27 million remaining on his contract after this season.
There is another complication for interested parties: Sources revealed Tuesday that Salmons has a 15 percent trade kicker in his contract that would require the team that acquires him to pay him a bonus of nearly $2 million and add that figure to its payroll. Salmons otherwise would rank as one of the league's better bargains, earning just $5.1 million this season while averaging 18.3 points and shooting 47.2 percent from the field and 41.8 percent on 3-pointers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...adeTalk-090218
LOLZ. Kings already trying to get rid of Beno's contract.
I think the crux of Stein's note is that Salmons is more expensive than originally thought and that a team that is skating at the tax threshold will probably be disinclined to deal for him and that trade kicker.
Even assuming that the Spurs could throw enough back at the Kings to make the kicker a non-issue, I'd think that such a deal would categorically spell the end for any chance that Bowen would be a release-and-resign player, since the Spurs would have to add on Bowen's minimum deal and would almost certainly go over the threshold.
I've also got to wonder how long Stern is going to turn a blind eye to these trade-cut-return scenarios. Sure would suck for the Spurs to trade Bowen and then have Stern deny the Spurs from re-signing him 30 days later because he thought it was all pre-arranged.
Spurs gotta do this deal...hes younger than VC, cheaper. And Salmons is a waaaaaaaaay better upgrade than Fin at this point.
Bowen has to come back though for sure.
Objectively, though, Vince Carter is about 4X the player Salmons is.
Yeah but his contract is waaay too expensive for the Spurs even two years from now...plus VC would cost us Hill and Mason probably...getting Salmons, will not.
The odd thing about the Salmons/Carter decision is that Salmons would likely cost the Spurs a tax payment while Carter would not.
Frankly, the fact McDonald noted the Spurs reluctance to re-up Horry to include him in a trade package specifically because of the tax consequences that would go with it tells me that Salmons won't happen unless other pieces are added to make the Spurs send-out big enough to offset the trade kicker.
Didnt see this tidbit posted:
The Kings likewise have talked with Chicago about a still-developing swap that would net Andres Nocioni and Drew Gooden's $7.2 million expiring contract for Miller and swingman John Salmons.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...adeTalk-090218
Bowen, Udoka (or Vaughn or Horry) for Salmons. Bowen agrees to get bought out for less than the amount on his contract, while Salmons agrees to drop the trade kicker.
Sounds fair . . .
P.S.
Oh and toss in a pick or prospect if the bidding for Salmons elevates.
Eh, Salmons is a let down IMO.
I'd rather get the big man...
Depending on Manu's situation, a big man would make no difference.
LJ, check your PMs please.
A trade for a Salmons depending on Manu's situation would make no difference either.
I think you assessment on Salmons was correct, he was the beneficiary of alot of shots on the worst team in the western conference while Kevin Martin has missed the year.
I don't think a trade for Salmons solves anything IMO.
Now if Ginobili comes BACK, THEN, yes, a trade for a John Salmons improves your team's chances exponentially, but, from the tone of everything surrounding Ginobili, I think hes done for the year, and I think a trade for Salmons would be a waste of time.
Manu's done for the year? WTF? when did this happen? The last thing I heard was that he had a sore ankle... now he's done for the year?
Its just the vibe I'm getting from the whole situation.
Nothing to back it up.
I don't like the way they are being overly secretive of his injury and I don't like how I've seen certain people react to it.
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
The Sacramento Kings are still determined to trade center Brad Miller, but it looks more likely they’ll part with efficient and cost-effective scorer John Salmons before the deadline on Thursday.
The Kings would like the Knicks to include Nate Robinson with the expiring contract of Malik Rose, but an Eastern Conference executive said Tuesday, “[Mike] D’Antoni does not want to move Robinson.”
Miller is attractive to the Knicks because the final $12.2 million season left on his contract comes off the cap before the free-agent summer of 2010.
Sources say the Dallas Mavericks have offered Jerry Stackhouse for Salmons, and the San Antonio Spurs are willing to part with Bruce Bowen and Ime Ukoda for him. Both Stackhouse and Bowen have partial guarantees for next season – $2 million each – that are cost prohibitive to Sacramento. League executives say the Kings are looking for a straight expiring deal for Salmons.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
Udoka and Bowen, Bowen is bought out?
Where do I sign?
Trade kicker. Not that simple. But I'd still take it.
I prefer this to the Carter deal.
Trade kicker could possibly be waved.
Just for the fun of it, anyone think something like this would have any legs whatsoever?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=bkpwnt
(With Horry resigned at $4.2 instead of trading Thomas.)
I realize this is a lot of guys for Sac to take back, but they get both contracts off their books, ~$6.5 mil in expiring contracts, Oberto's non-guaranteed deal for next year, and can buy out Bowen.
Eric Bishop, live on Chris Duel right now. lol.
Actually I think the Kings would rather look for a team like Chicago. Perhaps work a Miller+Salmons swap for Drew Gooden and I don't know, Nocioni perhaps.
Last edited by coyotes_geek; 02-18-2009 at 04:46 PM.
Salmons Now More Likely To Land In OKC?
Sources indicate that Tuesday's trade between the Hornets and Thunder that sent Tyson Chandler to Oklahoma City makes a deal with the Kings for John Salmons even more likely.
The Thunder have suddenly shown a commitment to winning sooner rather than later, and Salmons would form a nice core with Russell Westbrook, Jeff Green, Kevin Durant and Chandler.
Oklahoma City still has the expiring deals and draft picks needed to acquire a player like Salmons.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...o_land_in_okc/
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