Amare to Cleveland

[Lp26]

Detroit could be one of those teams Amare said he wouldn't resign with.

No dice. Amare did an interview where he proceeded to say how in love he was with the Pistons, the fans, the city, Joe D, and anything else he can think of. He stated he would love to go there, and that would be a great situation for him.

I'm too lazy to look for the article, but i remember it b/c i don't really want Amare and it sounded like he was auditioning.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Latest post by the source is saying the Cavs have put the offer on the table to Pheonix, but the Cavs organisation believes another team will put foward a better offer before the deadline passes.

Ferry has tried to get a 3rd team in on the deal so Pheonix ends up with a better package. Cavs have other deals that they are willing to go to if they are unable to land Amare.

I think this could be a smokescreen set up by Kerr and Ferry hoping that either a contender or a team hoping to land Lebron in 2010 freaks out about the pairing of Lebron and Amare and makes a desperation trade solely because they think Lebron will extend if Amare extends.

[Thunder Dan]

here is the latest.

OK, First off, my apologies for saying I thought I would be back here around the 3pm time frame today ...never should have even mentioned a given time knowing I had a precarious travel schedule.

I've been able to get some more information that should clarify, to an extent, where the Cavs stand right now. It's been made very clear by the team to try and keep expectations low in regards to potential trade options. No team likes to deal under these cir stances, but, of course when you have a trade deadline that coincides with an All Star weekend, and you happen to have one of the biggest and best player's in the game's name being tossed around in trade talks, it's kind of hard to keep the excitability of the league's fanbase in check.

But, try I will do, to basically give you guys some understanding of where I see the Suns mindset, the Cavs mindset, and Amare's mindset in the here and now.

I know we have lot of people coming out of the woodwork saying handshake deals have been done and so forth. Nothing inregards to the Suns and Cavs has been done as of now. Danny Ferry has made an offer to Steve Kerr, and he's also gone outside just the two teams, and has been working on getting a third team involved as well, to be able to give the Suns and Kerr some more creative options as well.

But, in talking to most all of the higher ups with the team, you get the feeling that they really don't feel that when all is said and done, we will have the strongest offer that the Suns will ultimately get. In a way, I sense the Cavs heirarchy is doing what I and almost all of our fans are doing ....we're trying not to set ourselves up for the ultimate letdown if ...if it doesn't end up materializing and we don't end up landing Amare.

I will say this, though. For the Suns, it's not all about this trade looking good n the surface as far as getting equitable talent back for the given asset. That's why it's hard to gage how we really stack up in the minds of the Suns. You see, the Suns see value, at this point, as salary fexibility. The more flexible they ultimately end up being in the long run, will outweigh fctors such as getting a percieved higher value back in player assets.

As it stands right now, it appears that we have a two horse race with the Cavs and the Bulls. More teams are expected ..anticipated to be looking into some offers as well. The Cavaliers want to keep the trade simple. We don't want to get ito scenarios that include mul udes of players going back and forth from differing teams rosters. We want as minimal a transition of players as possible, so that we don't have to go throug anything close to what we did last year at the deadline.

We want to keep it the nubers down, and keep our team chemistry in tact as much as possible. If, when other offers come in, what we have out there isn't good enough and would require us to begin shaking up our roster to a greater degree, I expect we would then look elsewhere.

What we've been doing more of today is basically handling the issues outside of Phoenix. We;'re looking at alternatives that would work for us if the Phoenix deal doesn't end up materializing for us.

Basically, we're hadging our bets. We're putting together alternative plans of attack as well. We aren't going to put all our eggs into this one basket and sink or swim with it, we've got to be prepared for whatever happens, and we are.

For those that have been here for the longterm at RCF, we've been talking through all the possible scenarios for months now. You all know exactly what I'm talking about in terms of what we are looking for and the possiblities as well that I have outlined in the past. What I'm saying here and now is, the STAT rumors and talks haven't changed our perceptions of the other options that also can be at our disposal.

I know we've gotten alot of talk out of the front office that we are content with our team, and that we would be happy to move forward with the team intact, and to an extent that is 100% truth. But, fans aren't fools either ...they know that we're talking and looking for ways to improve our team, and we are.

Just so happens we have alot of options available to us right now, we do have a priority of which ones we like the best, scaled down to the least favorable. I think it's safe to say that if what we have offered to Phoenix turns out to be ammanable to them, then that is the route we are going to ultimately take.

But, Steve Kerr and Danny Ferry have a strong longterm relationship and that counts for something here as well, in my book. I expect that they've talked all isues and ci stances through. A timetable exists where we both need to know ultimately where we stand and if we can get something together between us, we will, and of not ...then we will move on at that point to other options that are available to us.

Phoenix holds the cards as far as their timetable, but, I also feel very confident that whether the Amare trade goes through between the Cavs and Suns or not, we have enough alternative plans in place that the Cavs will now be able to quickly go to one of their fallback plans and get something accomplished postively before the deadline.

I've got a Valentine's dinner engagement with my wife now ...gotta run. I'll have more tomorrow where I'll try and go into more detail. A bit frazzled and rushed right now. Hope I made some sense with this ...

[bostonguy]

If Im the suns, I look to Chicago/Detroit. The Pistons will give you Amir who could pan out (If he doesnt be a free agent next summer and you wont have to worry anymore about him) and Sheed(who is a rental and could make this season interesting for the suns). The Cavs deal should be the last resort if the Suns cant get either of those.

[wijayas]

lmaooooo oo

why in the would phoenix themselves over like this.

Ask Memphis. They started it and it becomes a fashion statement. The more stupid the trade is, the more glamourous the GM is.

[sook]

OP is a ing genius. I should trade stocks based on what a poster on a bbs forum says too

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

OP is a ing genius. I should trade stocks based on what a poster on a bbs forum says too

You should find the thread where he said there was a Shaq trade that had been agreed to.

[sook]

You should find the thread where he said there was a Shaq trade that had been agreed to.

lol yea he proabably pops a boner everytime he sees a rumor like that

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol yea he proabably pops a boner everytime he sees a rumor like that

Assuming he doesn't already have a boner from the last time he saw a picture of JJ Hickson sitting at the end of the bench.

[sook]

Assuming he doesn't already have a boner from the last time he saw a picture of JJ Hickson sitting at the end of the bench.

all bow...

[Thunder Dan]

DuncanownsKobe (right) and Sook (left) were spotted this weekend

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

all bow...

[Thunder Dan]

Hickson is 20 years old, 1 year out of high school. It's funny that you guys think that every draft pick comes right out and just dominates. He plays on a good team and doesn't see much time. I'm sure if he played on the Suns or Rockets he would see some time

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Isn't that a picture of you and that 15 year old dude on the Cavs forum that makes up trade rumors?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Hickson is 20 years old, 1 year out of high school. It's funny that you guys think that every draft pick comes right out and just dominates. He plays on a good team and doesn't see much time. I'm sure if he played on the Suns or Rockets he would see some time

Maybe on the Suns because Amare is injured, but not the Rockets. Scola and Laundry are both way better.

[Thunder Dan]

Isn't that a picture of you and that 15 year old dude on the Cavs forum that makes up trade rumors?

that's a strong comeback

[sook]

Hickson is 20 years old, 1 year out of high school. It's funny that you guys think that every draft pick comes right out and just dominates. He plays on a good team and doesn't see much time. I'm sure if he played on the Suns or Rockets he would see some time

yea the suns have to be the dumbest team on the planet to deny amare stoudamire for JJ hickson

[sook]

that's a strong comeback

if you base your arguments on the strength of your "Comebacks" its no wonder we're here talking about this

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

yea the suns have to be the dumbest team on the planet to deny amare stoudamire for JJ hickson

I still agonize over the Suns passing on Karl Malone pt. 2

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

that's a strong comeback

a lot stronger than the original insult.

[Thunder Dan]

yea the suns have to be the dumbest team on the planet to deny amare stoudamire for JJ hickson

actually, yes they are dumb for not trading Amare, basically every insider in the game has said so. They basically have a team full of 35-40 year olds that are overpaid, and they have to rebuild around a guy that doesn't play defense and injury prone in his prime. By the time the Suns are good again Amare will be on the backend of his prime like TMAC is in Houston

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

actually, yes they are dumb for not trading Amare, basically every insider in the game has said so. They basically have a team full of 35-40 year olds that are overpaid, and they have to rebuild around a guy that doesn't play defense and injury prone in his prime. By the time the Suns are good again Amare will be on the backend of his prime like TMAC is in Houston

If the best offer was JJ Hickson and worthless Wally (I know I just struck a nerve and you're about to divulge into how good Wally would be on the Suns but please try not to) then the Suns were anything but stupid to trade Amare.

[Red Hawk #21]

DuncanownsKobe (right) and Sook (left) were spotted this weekend

Thunder Dan I think this picture confirms your sexuality...

[sook]

actually, yes they are dumb for not trading Amare, basically every insider in the game has said so. They basically have a team full of 35-40 year olds that are overpaid, and they have to rebuild around a guy that doesn't play defense and injury prone in his prime. By the time the Suns are good again Amare will be on the backend of his prime like TMAC is in Houston

sounds like you're still bitter

[sook]

There are 2 reliable sources that are reporting that the Cavs and Suns are close to a deal that would send Amare to Cleveland for JJ Hickson and Wally.

Take it for what it's worth, but he works inside the organization and has been almost dead on with every leak he has given

Also, the big hang up is that teams are shying away from giving away too much because they fear that Amare won't resign. It has been confirmed that this week sometime the Cavs asked him if he would resign in 2010 if the opportunity was there. It was just confirmed they asked, which may or may not be a big deal

http://www.realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?t=17335


'Just returned from lunch, and when I got back to my hotel room, I have had my cell charging while I was out, I got three calls from JJ and his agent. Apparently, they are getting wind of some things, and are calling to see if I've heard anything regarding him, and potential moves being discussed.

Obviously, being on the road, I'm out of the loop to an extent, but, obviously somethings been whirling around in the NBA circles regarding JJ ...

Really a tough situation for him to go through so early on in his 1st season, he's apparently very anxious over all that must be going on right now, as far as the rumor mill.

Did something break on ESPN as far as speculation ?

I can't go into too much detail as to who else called, but a close relative who also has a job in the NBA but not with the Cavs, called and has heard we're one of the top destinations for Amare, in that he's signaled that he would sign longterm with us if the opportunity presented itself.

Which leaves me mystified to say the least ... I didn't see this one on my radar at all ... I've just never really taken any of those rumors seriously at all. Didn't see us with the assets, or much desire due to certain issues that I'll go into if need be ...

But, obviously for a team that's been saying they are content to stay put, we certainly have a GM that is working alot of tradelines with multiple teams at the moment.

I feel like maybe I should change my travel itinerary, and instead of heading back to Cleveland, make a quick jaunt out to Phoenix ...lol.'