I don't like him for that reason. I can't stand listening to him for more than a minute or two.
Beck is okay. I like him mainly for his solid grasp on the fundamentals -- limited govt, low taxes, secure borders, and an originalist understanding of the Cons ution. He's interesting.
Hannity is okay too, but if I just got done listening to Rush, Hannity is a HUGE step down. Not that I disagree with him, but Rush is a far better off-the-cuff speaker than Hannity, Beck, or pretty much anyone on the radio today.
Probably. It's tough to play spades without that fourth person.
Are they still pulling guns on people trying to cross the bridge?
Yes...I am so proud to say that I am
Ooooookay...yeah...
- that seals it - I'm going on Wednesday - I'll record and maybe even live blog. If something like THAT is what is going to happen, I'd love to see it.
"It's a brainwash unit!"
Is that some sort of scientific measurement?
Also, I love how it's the old fat white guy trying to represent conservatives
Grass-roots or astroturfing?
It's gonna rock me AND it's rock solid?
Sold.
Egg 'em on. Give a nice speech about the FEMA concentration camps and how Obama said we're not a Christian nation, and then tell them how he once gave you an iPod.
Nah, if I do go, and I do actually want to go see it then I'm not going to do anything like that. You don't need to do it because they actually believe these things they say.
I think its ignorance and stubbornness. They think that balancing the budget in the face of a huge economic crisis is appropriate because no one is telling them thats exactly what Hoover tried to do and what it got them. They think evolution is actually false because of all the bull spread and how "objectively" the media covers it.
Big bucks are pouring in to the tea party movement. Fox News reports that organizers are making a fortune in merchandise sales -- the online store for the Tax Day Tea Party website has already lodged over $48,000 in sales, according to tea partier Eric Odom.
But the big bucks aren't only in T-shirts with pithy slogans - Fox's Glenn Beck said on his radio show that he plans to attend a $500 dollar-a-plate fundraiser for the tea party movement.
One wonders how much that fundraiser will resemble the scene in this video of a small event organized by the 9-12 Project, in which a man rouses the rabble with a conspiracy-alleging rant.
"In the early 50s our country was infiltrated by the communist party," he says, calling the Obama administration the culmination of that infiltration. "They're doing everything they can to brainwash our public...This thing they're putting on our TVs," he says, presumably referring to digital cable converters, "it's a brainwash unit!"
As his speech winds down, he exhorts his listeners to get their kids "the out of college. They're brainwashing 'em!"
The anti-school message resonates with one woman.
"Burn the books!" she yells from off-camera. The surprised camera man asks if she's serious, and which books she'd burn. "The ones in college, the brainwashing books, like the evolution crap."
Take your kids out of college?
A tea party? At the Alamo? Sounds like fun.
It can't be a tea party if it's a bunch of dumbasses just ing. Go and ing do something if you want to call yourselves the tea party.
hoover increased govt spending, i don't know where you got your info.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040603355.html
maybe manny is also wrong about the new deal.
Through the 1920s, federal budget surpluses got as high as $689 million. Total debt was gradually reduced from $24 billion to about $17 billion. But business activity began to decline in the summer of 1929, and the stock market crash followed in October. By the early 1930s, it was apparent that a major economic crisis was in progress. President Hoover tried to balance the budget, and FDR continued this after being elected in 1932, but bad times forced the deficit up as public works efforts (to offset financial hardships) were funded. By 1933, the budget deficit was nearly $3 billion, and the debt had risen to more than $22 billion. Many economists at the time disdained the attempt to balance the budget "no matter what," and, drawing on the ideas of the English economist John Maynard Keynes, thought that a general fiscal depression was as great a national emergency as a war, and that the government should be willing to use deficits to stimulate the economy, just as it would borrow money to fight a war.
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/history/world_wars.htm
I guess "tried to" is the significant phrase. I haven't found the numbers yet.
omg--what a cluster
Yes, Herbert Hoover ran deficits. Thats not the issue. The point was what Hoovers intent was and how it affected his decision making coupled with why he ran those deficits and whether or not he expected them. Herbert Hoover TRIED to balance the budget but because he failed to address the economic downturn appropriately the money he was counting on never showed up. No amount of letters to the editor change this.
Logic tells you that if the economy is in the Great Depression the amount of money the government brings in through taxes (when combined with Hoover tax cuts) is going to be much lower which may lead to a deficit even with a decrease in government services.
Last edited by MannyIsGod; 04-13-2009 at 01:57 AM.
Maybe Ignignokt should read more carefully.
omg--what a cluster
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