Who do you think helps the team more heading into the playoffs, Nazr or Marks?

[nzkickass]

CAREER HIGHS
Points 15
Total Rebounds 11 (2 times)
Blocks 4
Minutes Played 36


there not the best numbers but there not the worst.

in the 2001/02 season he played pretty good, he was the starting centre while Mourning was out injured.
G GS Min FG% 3pt FT% Of Def TReb Ast Stl Blk To
01-02 MIA 21 6 15.2 .432 .000 .588 .90 2.70 3.60 .4 .24 . 48 .90
Pf Pts
1.90 4.6

[whottt]

RVB and Chump...I realize that you guys kind of think it's silly to have such a lengthy debate over the 11 or 12th man...

But let me refresh your memory of game 2 of the 2003 playoffs VS the Phoenix Suns...

I don't think anyone would have pencilled in Danny Ferry for 10 rebounds and I don't think anyone would have expected him to be very important...he was, and it had nothing to do with his shooting....the one thing he had going for him was his knowledge of the team.

I also think you guys forget how huge Kevin Willis was in the playoff run...particularly against the Lakers.

And to compare Massenburg favorably to Willis is a crime...

[Useruser666]

This thread is still ridiculous. Unless there are major injuries to the Spurs, Makrs will not and SHOULD not be on the playoff roster.

[whottt]

User...are you fully aware of how bad Nazr sucks? I mean have you watched him? I know he can rebound and o board...but does he really do it well enough to make up for the fact that he does absolutely nothing else well and is lost? I don't think he does it that well and I do think the point is worth debating.

I can tell the guy is trying...and he is a very nice guy...but I don't like the way he looks out there(lost).

He did hit a J yesteryday, a big one, but damn...it just doesn't seem like he has a purpose out there other than crashing offensive glass...and he does do stupid stuff.

[wildbill2u]

Do you think Mohammed was better than Marks today? Who do you think contributed to the win more? And why?

This was a playoff style game...

And if your aswer isn't Mohammed then why would you do it differently in the playoffs...

Well, Nasr shot 33% to Marks 0%. And comparative talent may be the reason why one player has been a starter on an NBA team and contributed elsewhere--and the other player has played in only 68 games in a career and only 11 games in TWO YEARS with the Spurs.

It's not as though Marks burned up the league in previous stints with Toronto or Miami. Good practice dummy though, I'll give him that.

[wildbill2u]

Don't give him any time. That's only reserved for guys not traded for Malik.

We'll see. He looks very lost without Duncan, that's for sure.

When you think about it, Nasr's now having to learn another offensive system since Duncan went down and the playbook (If Pop actually has one that doesn't feature the 4 down) changed.

[wildbill2u]

Whottt, unless you can convince me that Marks will pass up both Nazr and Massenburg that he would get any appreciable minutes in the playoffs, this thread is pointless.

Pointless? I don't think you get the point of the attack. This is another way for Whottt to get a thread going against the Malik trade--simply using Marks as a stalking horse to attack Nasr.

[Useruser666]

It's the classic bait and switch.

A trojan horse thread.

[Russ]

I don't know if this has been noted before, but Sean Marks looks a lot like Bruce Dern.

[whottt]

I don't know if it's been noted before, but Nazr really sucks and Marks is better.

[ducks]

:05.6 SA - Shooting foul on S. Marks
:24.0 SA - N. Mohammed offensive rebound
:24.0 SA - N. Mohammed makes shot
:24.9 SA - S. Marks misses a 4-foot jumper in the lane

[jcrod]

I didn't read this long thread, but my guess Mass is the odd man out.

Marks has look surprisingly well, but I think Nazr would do better than anybody next to Tim. So Mass to IR when Tim is healthy.

[whottt]

:05.6 SA - Shooting foul on S. Marks
:24.0 SA - N. Mohammed offensive rebound
:24.0 SA - N. Mohammed makes shot
:24.9 SA - S. Marks misses a 4-foot jumper in the lane

Ducks...check the box
Nazr did have a good dunk...but that's a given...he'll get those on ocassion

[boutons]

Nazr has impressed me less and less. He looks lost. I don't know where the Nazr of Nov/Dec's great stats went but he hasn't shown up in San Antonio.

Marks seems more alert, more active, more floor sense, he's always going for rebound or trying to de-stabilize an opponent's rebound. He hits his FTs. Too bad his jumper isn't falling, because he is left open. He seems to rush it a bit, too flat.

TMass has had a couple of very good games, but he doesn't get much done when he comes in for shorter periods.

It's a close call. They are all marginal.

[whottt]

I think Marks is just rusty...he and Nazr are almost the same identical player...Nazr is a better rebounder but Marks seems to have a better J so he isn't always clogging up the middle.

They both hop around like a couple a kangaroos trying to get o boards.

[ducks]

well narz will be easier to trade in the offseason if spurs are not intersted in working wiith him this offseason then rose

[whottt]

Nazr is definitely more tradeable..but I don't really want to trade him...I just don't think he's going get his act together before this season is over...but he's got potential for next season for sure, no matter what happens this year.

[ducks]

I do not want to trade him unless they can get a much better big but I do think they will
I am hoping nazr,bowen and tp will practice together like tp,bowen and rose did last year

[milkyway21]

Nazr over Marks.

Reason: offensive rbds. blocks.

[MannyIsGod]

blocks? Yeah, Nazr, the block machine. Only, not.

[timvp]

Nazr might end up being a bigger bust than Charles Smith I. At least he had a good half season.

The Spurs should have gone after any other number of Hawks centers like Joel Przybilla, Obinna Ekezie, Jason Collier or even Alan Henderson.

Nazr is lost and is regressing.

[milkyway21]

The Spurs should have gone after any other number of Hawks centers like Joel Przybilla, Obinna Ekezie, Jason Collier or even Alan Henderson.

Nazr is lost and is regressing.

...there was a news in february that the Spurs was interested in Henderson. what went wrong?

from Express News (2/27/05)
The team would prefer to sign a power forward and has some interest in Alan Henderson, who was released by Milwaukee after Dallas traded him Thursday. The Spurs probably will have a difficult time convincing Henderson to pass on an offer to re-sign with the Mavericks."

[timvp]

what went wrong?

He re-signed with the Mavs.

[T Park]

Obinna Ekezie, Jason Collier or even Alan Henderson.

exagerating much????

[milkyway21]

blocks? Yeah, Nazr, the block machine. Only, not.

..Nazr said he'll never be a shot-blocker. But he has some blocks as a Spur...

LAST 6 GAMES

OPP MIN PTS TREB AST TO STL BLK
03/18 CHA 19 8 8 1 4 1 2
03/20 DET 21 13 8 2 1 0 0
03/21 NY 22 7 7 0 3 0 1
03/23 IND 16 6 3 0 1 0 0
03/25 ATL 13 3 5 0 3 0 3
03/27 HOU12 2 3 0 0 1 0

i guess when a player playing limited minutes can't really show his potential at this time. Horry is playing well, Rasho, too! Even Marks. so Nazr just became a bench warmer...

oh, before i forgot, Nazr had 2 blocks tonight vs. Seattle in just 15min gametime.