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  1. #126
    Banned holcs50's Avatar
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    Ok, so some of you say ariza is replaceable. Ok, I'll buy. Lakes have the MLE, who out there right now can come in and provide what ariza has for the MLE. Artest I highly highly doubt will take MLE. Who else? Throw me some names. There's no one that can do what he did for you guys in the playoffs available. Say you guys didn't have Ariza for the playoffs, and instead had Sasha/Luuuuuuuke playing all those minutes, can you honestly say (try not to be a homer) that you guys would have won? I don't see it, he was too important in a lot of close games in quite a few of the series. If he leaves, you guys won't be able to get anything this year near arizas talent. Next year is where you should aim. If you get Artest miraculously then yea my comments are void.

  2. #127
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    Sorry I'm not that flexible.
    Ok sorry then.

  3. #128
    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Ok, so some of you say ariza is replaceable. Ok, I'll buy. Lakes have the MLE, who out there right now can come in and provide what ariza has for the MLE. Artest I highly highly doubt will take MLE. Who else? Throw me some names. There's no one that can do what he did for you guys in the playoffs available. Say you guys didn't have Ariza for the playoffs, and instead had Sasha/Luuuuuuuke playing all those minutes, can you honestly say (try not to be a homer) that you guys would have won? I don't see it, he was too important in a lot of close games in quite a few of the series. If he leaves, you guys won't be able to get anything this year near arizas talent. Next year is where you should aim. If you get Artest miraculously then yea my comments are void.
    Ariza is obviously a valuable member of the Lakers. But even at that, he's the 5th most important behind Kobe/Pau/Odom/Bynum.

    I think the Lakers still would have won this year, but no way would it have been in 5 games vs the Magic without Ariza.

    If it ain't Artest, the Lakers will just have to use Lamar as a SF with Luuuuke as his backup.

  4. #129
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    I agree that both Ariza and Odom are replaceable, but the problem the Lakers will have in replacing them is that they will be limited to splitting the MLE on replacements - whereas they can match any offer to either/both of them. If you choose to let them both walk (as in your scenario), you will likely have to spend the full MLE to bring in comparable talent for just one of them - leaving a significant void in your lineup. At least that's my honest opinion.
    They will try to bring one back and it seems like it will probably be Odom. They know the market and Odom is not getting 10 Million. He's worth it for around 8 Million or so. Now if the Lakers do lose both then they will have some holes to fill. They will probably throw the MLE at a SF and run with Gasol/Bynum as the starting 4 and 5. Bynum hasn't been able to stay healthy the last 2 years so of course it is a concern and the Lakers will be weaker, but I don't think many thought the Lakers could keep together such a stacked team when all FA's want to get paid. The gap has closed between the spurs and Lakers, but the spurs are still a big man away to compete against the Lakeshow.

  5. #130
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    I just saw on Crazy Ron's twitter....

    "we are playing pool at lamar odums barn in hollywood.
    25 minutes ago from mobile we"

    I'm so happy he knows how to spell Odom right.....

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    I just saw on Crazy Ron's twitter....

    "we are playing pool at lamar odums barn in hollywood.
    25 minutes ago from mobile we"

    I'm so happy he knows how to spell Odom right.....

    Keep in mind he isn't the brightest crayon in the box.

  7. #132
    Inthe land of audiophiles angelbelow's Avatar
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    lol at anyone claiming that ariza is easily replaced. obviously i dont agree with the amount he thinks he deserves but at the same time you cant say ariza can be easily replaced.

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    According to Real GM (I know) Whoever misses out on Hedo, either the Blazers or Raptors, they're going to offer Ariza a deal between 32-40 mill. I'm not sure the Lakers would match that, and if Artest goes to the Cavs and Ariza goes to the Blazers, the Lakers will have performed an epic fail.

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    ^^ Don't worry lakaluva would be happy in that situation. He can go to bed at night dreaming about all extra money Magic has to spend on those hourly HIV tails of his.

    Meanwhile the Lakers have Matt Barnes dribbling the ball off his foot 3 times

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    Well I guess we're better off with Matt Barnes starting then Luke ing Walton.

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    Dont worry we got Larry Bird i mean Adam Morrison on our team

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    Dont worry we got Larry Bird i mean Adam Morrison on our team
    lol, I still remember Woody Paige being 100% convinced Adam was the next Bird, what a dumbass.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    Meanwhile the Lakers have Matt Barnes dribbling the ball off his foot 3 times

    He must have been playing a bad team, because that number is really low for Matty Bricks.

  14. #139
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Good luck to whichever team signs Ariza for 8-10 million.

  15. #140
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    I knew it. I knew some team would offer either Ariza or Odom crazy money, and it's happening now. 32-40 million for Ariza? ing crazy....

  16. #141
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    Man if the Lakers lose out on Ariza AND Artest boy would they be ed.

    Fisher?, Kobe, Walton? , Odom, and Bynum. Wow...major downgrade.

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    Spurfan ming his pants, lmao..

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    Spurfan ming his pants, lmao..

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    Spurs 2010 NBA Champions, congrats!

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    It is funny how Laker fans are turning to Odom. Spurs fans are not saying the Lakers will suck if they lose Ariza or that Ariza is better than Odom. Most are saying they will still be top of the league, but the gap will close, especially with the moves other teams are making.

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    Lakers are not winning next year if Luke Walton is starting at SF and Sasha sees heavy minutes at the 2. They will get torched all day.

  22. #147
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    Spurfan ming his pants, lmao..

  23. #148
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    Hey, "Spurfans", this sure as beats Fisher standing out there at .4 with that little grin on his face---like the little grin in Florida, eh?

    tee, hee.

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    Lakers are not winning next year if Luke Walton is starting at SF and Sasha sees heavy minutes at the 2. They will get torched all day.
    Pretty much. If Ariza does go, and Artest and Marion aren't available I'd be stunned if the Lakers didn't get someone like a Grant Hill. They just have to get someone, anyone, you can't go into camp with Luke and Morrison as your only true 3's, that is just suicide.

    Sasha will get minutes though, he has to, if he continues to suck ass his minutes will get cut big time for the playoffs, just like this past year.

  25. #150
    In Manu we STILL trust! rayray2k8's Avatar
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    Spurs 2010 NBA Champions, congrats!


    Kobe anyone? The lakers almost won it all last year with out Ariza anyway..

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