Why would anyone want to leave the Lakers?

[duncan228]

The weather in California is unmatched in the United States.

I've lived in Northern and Southern California, and the weather is quite nice. Sure is better than New England.

[cobbler]

You quote him as being a hater and all, but you are on the opposite end of the spectrum though, your an apologist. The fact of the matter is, nobody knows what happened in that room, but you have to understand where apologist will almost always find a reason to apologize for kobe's behavior, the haters will always find a way to disprove him.

You are right, that kobe's off court antics shouldn't affect his bball skills, just like how you hate it when people downplay La's dominance by calling kobe a rapist, BUT, i'm sure you and your fellow apologist, when comapring Kobe and MJ, will start attacking MJ's character and off court antics as well. How many threads on laker grounds or elsewhere state, well Kobe never punched his teammate, or Kobe isn't as big an a-hole/trash talker as MJ, and etc... etc... etc...

the thing is it's very hypocritical to hate people to bring up kobe being a rapist on every thread, but it's also unfair for laker fans and etc... to diss MJ for his on and off court antics as well.

or another example, how many people were crucifying j-kidd for his wife-beating tendency, saying he was a scrub and etc... OR how many people were saying LBJ never gonna win a le, because of his behavior off the court, I mean it's ridiculous people, specially laker fans saying LBJ won't win cuz he's a loser of the court and has a bad at ude when they have KObe on their team.

Just saying, it's appears to me you guys are both hypocrites and nobody wins in your argument.

Nice try. Nowhere did i aologize for Kobe. Kobe can be a total ass and I have said so everytime he has done something I felt was wrong. I said many times he could have raped the girl and only those 2 will know. I brought up how you never out a person or teammate like he did with Shaq while talking to the cops. It was a bad move. I was the first to say ship his ass out when he asked to be traded. I really don't see where you see me as an apologist because I think its ridiculous to pull the rape card when discussing basketball.

You have never seen me say MJ, LBJ, or Kidd are scrubs because of their off court antics. Only an idiot wouls say something so stupid. I may comment on a transgretion they have had, such as LBJ being a jerk after losing to the Magic, IF THAT IS THE THREAD TOPIC. But then you move on. Now if in threads 5 years from now you see me replying to a baskeball question about LBJ with "yeah but hes a jerk because of what he did to the magic years ago" then feel free to call me out. It's not going to happen.

You are generalizing me into what you think all Laker fans are like based upon a few idiots commnets. That does not make me hypocritical in any way shape or form. It just makes you look uninformed.

[cobbler]

1) High Taxes.

2) Lifestyle

3) Weather

1) Get a decent job. It's not cheap to live in desirable places.

2) There are a mul ude of lifestyles here. Its up to you to choose which suits you.

3)

[phyzik]

Why would anyone want to leave the Lakers?

Pretentious, egotystical, self-en lement articles that personify the majority at ude of "we are better, love us!" in lala land... That seems to be a good place to start for that question....

[VivaPopovich]

[QUOTE]So why then? Could it be, and important to reiterate, no proof here, nothing to base this on, just asking: Could it be that these two low-key, soft-spoken forwards, neither of whom has that kill-or-be-killed mentality, no longer want (or in Trevor's case, wanted) the relentless pressure of playing with, and satisfying, Kobe Bryant?/QUOTE]

Yes. He doesn't treat his teammates like his family but like pieces of meat he needs to use to get his way.

[djohn2oo8]

Look at all the Laker fans tryin to defend L.A.

[DPG21920]

Why would players want to leave LA? Simple. Because Lamar and Trevor read ST and realize that Dr.House is a Laker "fan".

[DrHouse]

Every person I have ever met that has spent any reasonable amount of time in Houston has said it is hands down the worst place they have ever been in the US.

[Culburn369]

He doesn't treat his teammates like his family but like pieces of meat he needs to use to get his way.

& he said as much in the SI. article after the Orlando Finals. Asked what would happen if teamates did not live up to [his] expectations & high standards he stated (not verbatim): "We'll get players in here that will."

If anyone has that issue I would most appreciate it if they'd cite the exact passage. I saw it waiting for an oil change and just caught it momentarily.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

You can find nice communites pretty much everywhere, as long as you have the money. When I say dumps, I mean there is not much to do, as far as night life. Ohio is just a sad boring place with bad weather. Virginia has some nice spots, but once again, the weather is bad.

People talk about the smog in LA as if you cant even breathe. The weather is unmatched, and there is everything to do, no matter what you like, its in LA.

Ive been in Arizona for a few weeks visiting family, and I just dont get the point of living here, other than the really cheap homes, its really depressing and hot here. I actually went to Home Depot just to get a portable AC unit while Im here, because the home AC was just not cutting it for me. The crickets here are annoying as well. Its rare to see a night go by without having to hunt one down in the house.

I live in Arizona right now and I agree with you that the weather is ing horrible (May-September) but if you have ever been here during the other months the weather is fantastic (and this is coming from a guy that likes really cold weather). I do have a portable ac unit though because my room is probably the hottest in the house lol.

I can see why people that are not from here find Arizona depressing especially in the summer time, but people from all over come to AZ during the winter time to get away from the super cold weather.


I lived in Burbank for a year and I couldn;t stand it, I mean it was nice but everybody was a bag and the traffic sucks major ass. Not to mention that everything is ridicuously over priced. For the short time I was out there in an apartment I was paying close to double than what I would pay out here for about half the size.

I prefer AZ to LA or Burbank but I would much rather live in San Diego or Long Island, New York.

[cobbler]

[QUOTE=VivaPopovich;3570835]

So why then? Could it be, and important to reiterate, no proof here, nothing to base this on, just asking: Could it be that these two low-key, soft-spoken forwards, neither of whom has that kill-or-be-killed mentality, no longer want (or in Trevor's case, wanted) the relentless pressure of playing with, and satisfying, Kobe Bryant?/QUOTE]

Yes. He doesn't treat his teammates like his family but like pieces of meat he needs to use to get his way.

And yet there is video of Trevor days after signing with Houston showing up unexpectedly at Kobes kids camp showing the two horsing around, laughing with each other, and acting as the friends they both say they are. Go figure.

So could it be, just asking: That the media and/or spurfan just create drama where none really exists so they have something to talk about and create a aura of relevence around themselves?

[djohn2oo8]

Every person I have ever met that has spent any reasonable amount of time in Houston has said it is hands down the worst place they have ever been in the US.

Yeah, it's too bad that they're imaginary

[jacobdrj]

1) Get a decent job. It's not cheap to live in desirable places.

2) There are a mul ude of lifestyles here. Its up to you to choose which suits you.

3)

I didn't say why I would leave, but those are reasons none the less...

Some people don't like sunny and 70 all year round. Lamar would make more on a lesser contract with Miami because of taxes, and some people prefer rural areas.

You don't need to get all defensive about it.

[DrHouse]

I didn't say why I would leave, but those are reasons none the less...

Some people don't like sunny and 70 all year round. Lamar would make more on a lesser contract with Miami because of taxes, and some people prefer rural areas.

You don't need to get all defensive about it.

nobody from Detroit should even be allowed to post.

[Stand]

1. The bag people.

End Thread.

[djohn2oo8]

1. The bag people.

End Thread.

+1

[Rogue]

+1

You wouldn't see my comments if you had listed me ignored, even so, YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

[djohn2oo8]

You wouldn't see my comments if you had listed me ignored, even so, YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

Glad to see that ur Internet tough

[Rogue]

Glad to see that ur Internet tough

nice found, though you didn't write anything but in your re ed post. At least I'm not a fat ass whose breasts are even more swollen than those of a woman, like you dumb really are.

[djohn2oo8]

Bravo, for the way you express your opinion clearly and thoughtfully by not going one whole sentence without making sense.....Good job

[Rogue]

Bravo, for the way you express your opinion clearly and thoughtfully by not going one whole sentence without making sense.....Good job

this one makes great sense after all.

[z0sa]

rogue is the most underrated poster on ST

[djohn2oo8]

this one makes great sense after all.

I think that we should make this interesting, bet on something where one of us loses and leaves spurstalk, and chill out on the back and forth mess

[IronMexican]

I like the logic here. Only LA has s

[Rogue]

I think that we should make this interesting, bet on something where one of us loses and leaves spurstalk, and chill out on the back and forth mess

Awesome idea bro , I cannot wait until you open such a bet.