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    , because Nash is white, people automatically assume he tries his hardest on defense.
    IT's obvious to everyone on this board you are a closet spurs fans, just come out already.

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    Exactly. Nash doesn't call out people through the media. Whenever he's had a problem, he says things like "some guys on our team" or whatever.

    As if that is so much better than specifically naming the player.

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    In context, he's saying he doesn't need a ring to validate his career.

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    My guess is that if we were talking about Tyrone Nash from Harlem New York, he'd get just as much for his defense as Amare does.

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    Is this the fallback plan since trainwreck made your original "Nash keeps his mouth shut" argument a "trainwreck"?
    No, both of you like to play stupid or are actually dumb. You know what I meant when I compared Amare's mouth to Nash's. Clearly both say things in the locker room. They are on a compe ive team. Have you ever played sports beside intramural?

    The distinction was the media.

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    In context, he's saying he doesn't need a ring to validate his career.
    In reality, he's trying to validate being a player more concerned with having fun than winning it all.

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    As if that is so much better than specifically naming the player.
    Yes it is better. Guys don't like being called out through the media.

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    My guess is that if we were talking about Tyrone Nash from Harlem New York, he'd get just as much for his defense as Amare does.
    Knowledgeable bball fans don't give Nash a pass for his lack of D. No need to bring race into it. Amare gets dumped on because he wants to be The Man but only plays on one side of the court.

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    You know what I meant when I compared Amare's mouth to Nash's.

    Yes, I do. I think the logic that you're allowed to be a lazy crappy defender as long as you keep your mouth shut and admit your a lazy crappy defender is re ed.

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    In reality, he's trying to validate being a player more concerned with having fun than winning it all.
    If you think Steve Nash hasn't killed himself trying to win a le with Phoenix, I don't know what to tell you.

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    You're comparing apples to oranges. Kobe Bryant drops 30+ points all the time, Steve Blake never drops 22 points and 10 assists.
    Bull . If I can point out a similar game, not against Nash, will you be wrong?

    Also, it is not apples to oranges because you are being intellectually dishonest and you know it.

    The point was that you cannot isolate one thing and say the argument is wrong. The fact that an nonathletic player scored on Nash was not the point. The point was, that unlike Amare, Nash, even if he wanted to could not be a good defender because of his natural lack of athleticism.

    He could put in better effort, but he would still be known as a poor defender.

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    Yes it is better. Guys don't like being called out through the media.

    When Nash said, "Our big men aren't active enough," he might as well have just come out and said Amare and Shaq.

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    Nash, even if he wanted to could not be a good defender because of his natural lack of athleticism.

    But he could be a better defender than he is.

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    Bull . If I can point out a similar game, not against Nash, will you be wrong?

    No, I wouldn't be. By your logic, if Nash tries his absolute hardest defensively and only gets burned by extremely athletic point guards, why is he getting burnt by unathletic PG's like Kidd and Blake?

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    When Nash said, "Our big men aren't active enough," he might as well have just come out and said Amare and Shaq.
    And I guarantee you that both those guys would prefer that to "Amare and Shaq aren't active enough." Message was delivered w/o publicly naming them.

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    So basically Cubby, you're saying if Phoenix lost to LA rather than beat them, Amare would be healthy and Nash and Shaq should have never feuded?
    It's food for thought.

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    And I guarantee you that both those guys would prefer that to "Amare and Shaq aren't active enough." Message was delivered w/o publicly naming them.

    And I guarantee you they would have preferred Nash talk to them about it rather than hide behind the local Phoenix media that will write anything he wants them to.

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    If you think Steve Nash hasn't killed himself trying to win a le with Phoenix, I don't know what to tell you.
    He quit against Dallas in '06 or '07...I get those years confused.

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    Bull . If I can point out a similar game, not against Nash, will you be wrong?
    Which one happens a lot more, Kobe Bryant 30+ point nights, or Steve Blake 20 10 nights?

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    If you think Steve Nash hasn't killed himself trying to win a le with Phoenix, I don't know what to tell you.

    Players who kill themselves to win championships don't let the opposing guard drop 30 points in a must win game 6.

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    And I guarantee you they would have preferred Nash talk to them about it rather than hide behind the local Phoenix media that will write anything he wants them to.
    Who says he didn't? You don't know everything that goes on in the locker room. That kind of stuff happens all the time, where guys criticize teammates to the press w/o naming names. I just know that he always says things like "Our effort wasn't very good, some of our guys didn't hustle, etc."

    Your Nash hate is contorting your logic into all sorts of pretzels.

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    It's easy for Mavs and Spurs fans to tell me how much of a fierce compe or Nash is when that "fierce compe ion" they're referring to enabled their team to get to the finals.

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    Who says he didn't?

    I think we woulda heard about it given Amare's inability to control his mouth.

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    It's easy for Mavs and Spurs fans to tell me how much of a fierce compe or Nash is when that "fierce compe ion" they're referring to enabled their team to get to the finals.
    Right on, DUNCAN.

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