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WTF?
A player's reading comprehension does not enter into the equation when I decide to purchase tickets to a game (same for watching a game on TV).
Bury the envy.
Whether you're a "Lebron James" type player or not, it shouldn't matter, this age limit should be equal to all.
But.......to answer the question about the age limit, I'm for it! Why? B/c by having highschoolers come out, they are destroying the game. All they want to do is dunk and make the ESPN highlight clip. I've read where alot of them don't want to listen to the coach, don't want to play team ball, b/c they were the main "man" at their highschool. What really surprises me about James,is not really his play, but his maturity. Not all HS players will have a level head on their shoulders. Millions of dollars suddenly given to you! How the heck do you handle that as a HS player? Besides, doesn't every company have the right to set whatever bounderies they wish? It's funny though, here at the real world people have to be 21 to drink, but an NBA player that's 19 or 20, do they give them special treatment? YES!! Just doesn't make sense! Actually I think they should be required to take an exam, sort of like an SAT test, to make sure they can "read and write". after their second year in college, If they pass, then they will be cleared to get drafted. But, overall I think the age limit would be good for the league in the long run. Battier ws on the Rome show on ESPN a while ago, and he agreed with the age limit. His reason ( and a good one ) was that to many vets are being bumped to the bench b/c unproven HS players are coming in with high expectations and they're not ready for the NBA game. This would at least help keep veterans jobs safe.
WTF?
A player's reading comprehension does not enter into the equation when I decide to purchase tickets to a game (same for watching a game on TV).
Bury the envy.
I think basketball fans should have to run some basketball drills to test their shooting ability and defensive skill before being allowed to comment on requirements for professional players.
Someone may already have mentioned this, but comparing the rules and regulations governing a professional sports team and someone being of age to enlist in the Armed Services is apples and oranges. It's personal choice to enlist. The NBA is a private business that can, I assume, determine its own policies and procedures. If they choose not to draft someone, they don't have to. Is that correct?
I don't think anyone is arguing the legality of the NBA having an age limit, just the logic.
People are mad these ballas are ruining "their" sport with their "lack of fundamentals" and their wanton "self expression". They are sick of these 18-19 year old black ball players with their "bling bling," pimped out Escalades, and their MTV Cribs houses that have video games in the restroom. How dare they act the uppity negro on them, its time to put them in their place.
It's unfortunate that O'Neal brought up race. I Totally disagree with him on that.
I do agree that as long as baseball, boxing, and on and on, do not have age limits, then neither should the NBA. It's a bit hypocritical.
2. Many HS kids CAN'T get into college. Know why KG went straight to the NBA? He couldn't pass the SAT, even after taking it twice. Academically, he's as dumb as a box of rocks.
Your right on the point thats the only reason he entered the draft but he actually did pass the SAT. Only he didn't get the results back fast enough the last time he took it.
Who cares about the kids? I don't. I'm not a NCAA or a kid fan. I care about the NBA. 9 times out of 10 a kid would and should take the money. For the NBA, its players, and fans this is bad.
I find it funny that alot of other sports on their contract talks the players end up giving in on rookie contracts and terms in order to get what they want. The Vets (on the the players association boards) take care of the vets.
Lots of good points in here on both sides.
I agree with sick and others that what's best for the player is always the ability to make his own decision. Why should NBA players be any different in this regard than anyone else in the US?
As far as what's best for the league, it probably is an age limit.
This would certainly help college ball, too, but the NCAA is such a ghastly hypocritical organization that I can't believe that anyone gives a about what's best for it.
I think that it should be the same for all pro sports-but the question was what Stern should do and I answered appropriately.
This subject is a good Battle Blog. I know someone has brought up the topic in the Battle Blog Authors forum, but it hasn't gotten done yet. I'd appreciate it if it does.
Thanks.
Although I'm not convinced that the NBA would be better off. Not having a LeBron James in the league because he's too young is pretty stupid. It'd no longer be the best league in the world because there'd be players not in the league who could dominate.
I don't even see why this is an issue. This rule makes sense for the NFL because kids would get killed trying to play that game. But kids get drafted out of high school in baseball and nobody cares. Tennis players turn pro at like 15. Hockey players get drafted young.
I don't totally agree with Jermaine O'Neal but there is something weird about the American perception in this matter. When young high school kids like Daruis Miles, Kwame Brown or Tyson Chandler come out and don't star right away, we have to hear how they "lack fundamentals".
What better way to learn how to be an NBA player than to learn on the job? The NCAA is hardly an en y that should be felt sorry for. The athletes put their lives on the line every game, but God forbid someone pays the kid's phone bill or else he'll be out on the street. Sanctioned slavery? Not quite but when it's a billion dollar industry yet the athletes get none of that money, it's close.
they go to college right?it's a billion dollar industry yet the athletes get none of that money, it's close.
Arent they supposed to be getting an education??
Thats what I thought was number 1 for people when went to college, I could be wrong.
Id give up on the age limite, and just ins ute a minor league system, where each team has a minor league team.
Play during the basketball season, and unlimited call ups, send downs, the whole 9 yards.
Spurs would obviously make Austin there NBDL affiliate.
It's not like colleges care if their athletes get an education. They just want them to do good in their sport and keep them eligible.
Look at the graduation rates.
So its the college's fault they dont get graduated??
What should they do, do the work for them???
They get a free, full ride scholarship.
theres kids at my school who were smarter than , could do great things in this world, but couldnt get squat, because they were dirt poor.
But, since KID A, can dunk a basketball, he gets a full ride, and still es about treatment.
Kid B, who can solve a calculas problem like TIMVP can solve a Ducks riddle in half the time, gets jack squat, works at Brake Check for his whole life, becomes a drunk, and never does anything.
Then I want someone to tell me how these basketball kids at school are horribly treated.
"The Ticket" will be discussing this today if any of yall didn't already know.
Why should the age limit be 20? we are considered adults at 18. the league had been pretty successful drafting young players. at 18 we can go to jail, in the past we could be drafted to go to war even if we didn't want to, but now we can't play basketball? Someone said the NBA should not be compared with the regulations of the government, but I disagree because they represent what the U.S. is about (for the most part). For one they carry the le "National" in their name, they represent the U.S. in th olympics, and they are the best league in the world at integrating players. Now suppose either Lebron, Kobe, KG, JO, or any other successful HS player went to college because of the age limit and they got into some career ending situation. that would suck for them because they wont get to fulfill their dream, and they wont be making NBA money. I think JO went too far in calling out race as that is a very sensetive issue, but who knows? maybe stern doesn't like the young, "hip-hop" at ude they bring to the sport.
Quote: "They really should focus on attending college instead of trying to make an NBA team straight out of high school. Sure a lot of seniors coming out of college suck, but hey, atleast they have that degree to fall back on."
Well that's nice and everything foofida, but focusing on college and whatnot has to be that individuals job, not the NBA's job for trying to force them to go to college. If they truly want to go to college and get a degree, they can go and get it at any time. They can take out loans like thousands of other kids do that can't afford college straight up to pay for the education. They can go to school part time, and work in order to pay for school like lots of others do. Playing basketball in college is NOT a pre-requisite for getting a degree.
I think recording studios should have an age limit as well. Too many kids are dropping out and skipping college in order to become the next Teen Pop Star. Plus, it's having a bad effect on pop music in general, because many of these kids are not ready for the demands of being a celebrity or a musician.
Parents need the recording studios to prevent their children from chasing unrealistic dreams.
Last edited by Spurminator; 04-13-2005 at 12:41 PM.
Battle Blog is a good format for some things, but not for this.
For one, I think you can't do justice to the topic with the necessary word limitations.
For another, I think a lot of people can't get completely on board one side or the other.
Like I've said, I think this thread has done surprisingly well on the arguments on both sides.
What we should do is have them go to college where they can make records for the university. Alma Mater U. will get the recording profits and royalties, but the kids will get a free education and valuable training.
Well I kind of want a battle blog on it because I want to make it into a Fan's Opinion type article. So if someone still wants to blog it, I hope they do.
LOLWhat we should do is have them go to college where they can make records for the university. Alma Mater U. will get the recording profits and royalties, but the kids will get a free education and valuable training.
That's kind of what American Idol is...
You get to be on TV, but we own you for the next 3 years.
i just feel it should be up to the person. they are men. if a man wants to play basketball why should he not? it isn't illegal. so what if he might suck in the NBA? thats his problem. he made the decision and he had the opportunity. and if a vet is mad that a young player is taking up his time, so what? you had your time. not it's someone else's turn. if they are better than you they deserve your spot.
Maybe if the college could figure out how to make money off of Kid B like they do Kid A he could get a free ride. What world do you live in tpark.theres kids at my school who were smarter than , could do great things in this world, but couldnt get squat, because they were dirt poor.
But, since KID A, can dunk a basketball, he gets a full ride, and still es about treatment.
Kid B, who can solve a calculas problem like TIMVP can solve a Ducks riddle in half the time, gets jack squat, works at Brake Check for his whole life, becomes a drunk, and never does anything.
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