Raiders vs Chargers

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

^LT is the biggest reason why I hate the Chargers. in cry baby pussy.

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It sucked to see them lose like that, but they had a lot of good things to speak about, ESPECIALLY in the trenches, which is where teams are built and games are won. The easiest way to make your team better is by improving the lines, and the Raiders lines are both CLEARLY improved, which allows other playmakers to do what they do best.

Their offense was kinda inconsistent, but I think it will improve as the season goes on. Their running game was solid, but they kinda got away from it in the second half for some reason. Russell was inconsistent, mainly in the second half as he started rushing throws, but he showed on many occasions, just how gifted he actually is. Experience will be the best thing for him. I liked that he didn't really lose his confidence after some bad throws and drops. He stayed agressive and it paid off when he found Murphy for the long TD pass, as opposed to many young QBs who would have just checked down in that situation. And to do that after getting hurt a few plays earlier. He definitely showed some good leadership skills.

The defense was fantastic all around, until they got into the vanilla zone crap on the last drive. They looked tired after having spend most of the second half on the field. If the offense could have game them a little more rest, they probably would have stuck with the man defense that they were having so much success with, and probably kept the Chargers from scoring that TD. I loved the physicality they played with, the good tackling fundamentals displayed, as well as the smarts, not getting fooled with screen passes, play action, or even the double PA. Their front 4 consistently got good pressure and stopped the run. Seymour is a BEAST. Perhaps being in the 4-3 scheme will help him out.

I was especially pleased with the Raiders only having 6 penalties, 3 of which were on that moron, Cornell Green (Khalif Barnes needs to hurry up and get better). I don't think they have been that disciplined since the Jon Gruden days.

It was definitely a heartbreaker, and would have been great for their confidence if they won, but at the same time, I am eager to see how they respond to this loss, to see if it ignites a fire under them to play harder from now on, and to get revenge when they visit San Diego. Let's see if Cable has truly laid the foundation that Raider fans are hoping for, and put a true winners mentality into this young football team.

[TheSanityAnnex]

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[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The defense was fantastic all around, until they got into the vanilla zone crap on the last drive.

How long will it take defensive coordinators to realize that when there is over 2 minutes left in a game and the D has been great in man coverage with a good amount of blitzes, you don't change the defense to a soft prevent zone and give the QB all day to throw? It seems like so many teams have lost games doing this, yet it still happens...and I don't see why. You shouldn't trot your prevent D out there until the only thing that can beat you is a hail mary. Until then, stick to what's been working the entire game.

[IronMexican]

It sucked to see them lose like that, but they had a lot of good things to speak about, ESPECIALLY in the trenches, which is where teams are built and games are won. The easiest way to make your team better is by improving the lines, and the Raiders lines are both CLEARLY improved, which allows other playmakers to do what they do best.

Their offense was kinda inconsistent, but I think it will improve as the season goes on. Their running game was solid, but they kinda got away from it in the second half for some reason. Russell was inconsistent, mainly in the second half as he started rushing throws, but he showed on many occasions, just how gifted he actually is. Experience will be the best thing for him. I liked that he didn't really lose his confidence after some bad throws and drops. He stayed agressive and it paid off when he found Murphy for the long TD pass, as opposed to many young QBs who would have just checked down in that situation. And to do that after getting hurt a few plays earlier. He definitely showed some good leadership skills.

The defense was fantastic all around, until they got into the vanilla zone crap on the last drive. They looked tired after having spend most of the second half on the field. If the offense could have game them a little more rest, they probably would have stuck with the man defense that they were having so much success with, and probably kept the Chargers from scoring that TD. I loved the physicality they played with, the good tackling fundamentals displayed, as well as the smarts, not getting fooled with screen passes, play action, or even the double PA. Their front 4 consistently got good pressure and stopped the run. Seymour is a BEAST. Perhaps being in the 4-3 scheme will help him out.

I was especially pleased with the Raiders only having 6 penalties, 3 of which were on that moron, Cornell Green (Khalif Barnes needs to hurry up and get better). I don't think they have been that disciplined since the Jon Gruden days.

It was definitely a heartbreaker, and would have been great for their confidence if they won, but at the same time, I am eager to see how they respond to this loss, to see if it ignites a fire under them to play harder from now on, and to get revenge when they visit San Diego. Let's see if Cable has truly laid the foundation that Raider fans are hoping for, and put a true winners mentality into this young football team.

Cornell Green still sucked ass. Khalif Barnes should hopefully be back this week.

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How long will it take defensive coordinators to realize that when there is over 2 minutes left in a game and the D has been great in man coverage with a good amount of blitzes, you don't change the defense to a soft prevent zone and give the QB all day to throw? It seems like so many teams have lost games doing this, yet it still happens...and I don't see why. You shouldn't trot your prevent D out there until the only thing that can beat you is a hail mary. Until then, stick to what's been working the entire game.

No clue bro. I guess they just don't wanna risk giving up a big play due to blitzing. Still, even at that point, football is a game of adjustments. The Chargers adjusted by hitting Sproles underneath. The Raiders should have adjusted by having a guy keep a closer watch on him.

[IronMexican]

And even the Jon Gruden days, this team was always #1 in penalty yardage.

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Cornell Green still sucked ass. Khalif Barnes should hopefully be back this week.

He wasn't absolutely horrible. I felt he did suprisingly well all game, but sure did screw up on that final drive, which is why they need Barnes.

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And even the Jon Gruden days, this team was always #1 in penalty yardage.

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I just don't get that. How is it that no matter what, whether they are good or bad, constantly through their existence, have been bad about penalties.

[IronMexican]

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I just don't get that. How is it that no matter what, whether they are good or bad, constantly through their existence, have been bad about penalties.

I know. That team was so full of vets and it still led the league in penalties. You would think having so any players over the age of 30 would make them disciplined. There were only a couple of headcases, too(Romo, Robbins?)

[leemajors]

mike and mike almost ruined that great game for me. i had to turn off the ing sound at some points.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No clue bro. I guess they just don't wanna risk giving up a big play due to blitzing.

They run that risk for the first 57 minutes of the game, until it gets to the point where the other team's only chance is a deep catch, they should stick with what's working and keep rushing Rivers.

[dirk4mvp]

lol LT standing on the sidelines as Sproles singlehandedly owned the Raiders. Remember when Charger fan used to knob slob LT as one of the best rb's ever.

[dirk4mvp]

How long will it take defensive coordinators to realize that when there is over 2 minutes left in a game and the D has been great in man coverage with a good amount of blitzes, you don't change the defense to a soft prevent zone and give the QB all day to throw? It seems like so many teams have lost games doing this, yet it still happens...and I don't see why. You shouldn't trot your prevent D out there until the only thing that can beat you is a hail mary. Until then, stick to what's been working the entire game.

Especially considering Rivers' max throwing power can't be any more than 40 yards.

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lol LT standing on the sidelines as Sproles singlehandedly owned the Raiders. Remember when Charger fan used to knob slob LT as one of the best rb's ever.

Because he IS one of the best ever.

Especially considering Rivers' max throwing power can't be any more than 40 yards.

You know, you have really become one of the biggest trash talkers on the forum. It's actually quite amusing. Especially when it involves the Chargers, who own the Colts far harder than they could ever imagine owning the Raiders.

[dirk4mvp]

The Colts haven't lost 12 straight games to any team.

What else is amusing is Vincent Jackson owning assface.


lol best corner in the league.

[dirk4mvp]

Because he IS one of the best ever.

He's one of the all time greats at sitting on the bench with his helmet on during playoff games.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He's one of the all time greats at sitting on the bench with his helmet on during playoff games.

And then crying about how that team was unclassy.....oh wait that was his playoff choke job the year before he faked an injury.

Seriously though, the 2 Chargers fans I know hate LT and wish he got traded. He's becoming quite the joke.

[vander]

And then crying about how that team was unclassy.....oh wait that was his playoff choke job the year before he faked an injury.

Seriously though, the 2 Chargers fans I know hate LT and wish he got traded. He's becoming quite the joke.

I don't hate him, but I desperately hope he retires after this year, or this afternoon. we'd be better off with a sproles/Bennett/Hester RB trifecta anyways, and with a pass-first offense, a spread offense like the Pats have

[slayermin]

lol LT standing on the sidelines as Sproles singlehandedly owned the Raiders. Remember when Charger fan used to knob slob LT as one of the best rb's ever.

 Career Stats		                            Rushing		                         Receiving		
 Season	        Team	         G	 	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	 	Rec	Yds	Y/G	Avg	Lng	YAC	1stD	TD	 	Fum	FumL	 
 2001-02	San Diego	16	 	339	1236	77.3	3.6	10	 	59	367	22.9	6.2	27	7.8	12	0	 	8	5	 
 2002-03	San Diego	16	 	372	1683	105.2	4.5	14	 	79	489	30.6	6.2	30	7.5	20	1	 	3	1	 
 2003-04	San Diego	16	 	313	1645	102.8	5.3	13	 	100	725	45.3	7.3	73	8.2	26	4	 	2	0	 
 2004-05	San Diego	15	 	339	1335	89.0	3.9	17	 	53	441	29.4	8.3	74	9.6	16	1	 	6	2	 
 2005-06	San Diego	16	 	339	1462	91.4	4.3	18	 	51	370	23.1	7.3	41	9.1	15	2	 	3	1	 
 2006-07	San Diego	16	 	348	1815	113.4	5.2	28	 	56	508	31.8	9.1	51	9.6	22	3	 	2	1	 
 2007-08	San Diego	16	 	315	1474	92.1	4.7	15	 	60	475	29.7	7.9	36	9.6	21	3	 	0	0	 
 2008-09	San Diego	16	 	292	1110	69.4	3.8	11	 	52	426	26.6	8.2	32	9.3	18	1	 	1	0	 
 2009-10	San Diego	1	 	13	55	55.0	4.2	1	 	1	1	1.0	1.0	1	0.0	0	0	 	1	1	 
 Career	                        128	 	2670	11815	92.3	4.4	127	 	511	3802	29.7	7.4	74	8.7	150	15	 	26	11

[Blake]

Especially when it involves the Chargers, who own the Colts far harder than they could ever imagine owning the Raiders.

the raiders self own. they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in spite of rivers excellent leadership.

[holcs50]

wow you guys need to lay off LT. Even when yall were babies and watching the only teams that are "good", LT was and is a model of consistency-he has been great over the years and before the chargers were a decent team he would go out-work his ass off and not say a word. Now the last few years with his injuries, yea I got pissed, and yea I threw off my LT jersey...but please don't diss a guy who has been all class his whole career. Don't all the sudden think you know about him because all you've seen is him have to sit out the last two playoffs. How bout his whole career-were you watching him then? Stop hating on the guy, it's in annoying and its juvenile-it shows you only have ran with the media and the last few years people blasting him. Realize he's one of the best backs ever.

[monosylab1k]

don't diss a guy who has been all class his whole career.

We know LT's classy, he tells everybody how classy he is every chance he gets.

[kamikazi_player]

lol colts would definitely want LT if he was released