Wages of Wins: Once Upon a Time in Phoenix

[JMarkJohns]

I'm not using one series. I've stated that several players had minutes given very inconsistently, even at times when said player was needed most. I don't know how you get "one series" out of two postseasons with Jones that totaled five series, or three series in two years for Thomas. You're skirting the facts presented. They show that Jones and Thomas had their minutes cut by as much as 25-35% from regular season to postseason in a same year. You can look at the minutes of a number of the players mentioned month to month... Eddie House is another player ill-used by D'Antoni in 05-06 Postseason, getting his minutes cut in half, despite recently proving very valuable to a le cause.

Your excuse is most coaches trim minutes/rotation size. Well, most coaches play more than seven players in the regular season major minutes and can afford to trim minutes/rotation size. In 06-07, D'Antoni played six players roughly 30 minutes or more, then Jones and Thomas roughly 15-20 each. In the postseason, he trimmed Jones and Thomas' minutes to 10-12 without adding another player to the rotation. This taxed the Suns six-man rotation even more at a time of the season when they were already fatigued. This led to games where the Suns led by double-digit points after three quarters, but hadn't the legs to hold on through the fourth. This happened routinely.

And yes, I would say the mis-use of two of the Suns better defenders in a series where multiple games were decided by a possession or two is a travesty, considering the Suns loss in the series effectively ended their le hopes.

But it's not just one player. It's not just one series. It's not just one season.

But there's no telling you. Facts can't sway you. So go ahead and respond with something that attacks me to take attention away from all the information contrary to your argued points. I'm lazy, I'm a liar, I'm misrepresenting...

Blah, blah, blah... It was tired two years ago when your ass got ran off this site for being worthless. Your contributions are the same now as they were then...

[lefty]

LMAO Suns

The problem with the Suns is that they have always had that run'n'gun culture; it will never change, this whatt this franchise is.

They have come close to winning a le, but that little gap is actually huge: defense.

The 76 Celtics played hard-nosed D
The 93 Bulls played hard-nosed D
The Spurs play nose-destroying D

No D, no le.

[da_suns_fan]

I'm not using one series. I've stated that several players had minutes given very inconsistently, even at times when said player was needed most. I don't know how you get "one series" out of two postseasons with Jones that totaled five series, or three series in two years for Thomas. You're skirting the facts presented. They show that Jones and Thomas had their minutes cut by as much as 25-35% from regular season to postseason in a same year. You can look at the minutes of a number of the players mentioned month to month... Eddie House is another player ill-used by D'Antoni in 05-06 Postseason, getting his minutes cut in half, despite recently proving very valuable to a le cause.

Your excuse is most coaches trim minutes/rotation size. Well, most coaches play more than seven players in the regular season major minutes and can afford to trim minutes/rotation size. In 06-07, D'Antoni played six players roughly 30 minutes or more, then Jones and Thomas roughly 15-20 each. In the postseason, he trimmed Jones and Thomas' minutes to 10-12 without adding another player to the rotation. This taxed the Suns six-man rotation even more at a time of the season when they were already fatigued. This led to games where the Suns led by double-digit points after three quarters, but hadn't the legs to hold on through the fourth. This happened routinely.

And yes, I would say the mis-use of two of the Suns better defenders in a series where multiple games were decided by a possession or two is a travesty, considering the Suns loss in the series effectively ended their le hopes.

But it's not just one player. It's not just one series. It's not just one season.

But there's no telling you. Facts can't sway you. So go ahead and respond with something that attacks me to take attention away from all the information contrary to your argued points. I'm lazy, I'm a liar, I'm misrepresenting...

Blah, blah, blah... It was tired two years ago when your ass got ran off this site for being worthless. Your contributions are the same now as they were then...

So you accuse me of personal attacks and then make a personal attack.

Nice. And what "Facts" are you talking about? As we both agree, KT and James Jones both got off the bench. You think he didnt play them enough. Bottom line is he had an 8 man rotation (like almost ALL coaches in the playoffs). You think they should have been given MORE minutes. Like I said, I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR "COACHING/SUBS UTION" PHILOSOPHY! The point is, D'Antoni did, in fact, play all of his capable players SIGNIFICANT minutes. In James Jones' case, his CAREER HIGH.

But theres no telling you. Facts and numbers dont sway you in any way. Besides, youve now gone to "D'Antoni didnt play his bench.......enough....in the playoffs". Thats much different from the stupid "D'Antoni didnt' play his bench or develop players" bull you were spewing at the beginning of this thread.

Thanks for dropping Jalen Rose though from your "list". That one was just ridiculous. Im claiming victory in this stupid argument.

[JMarkJohns]

Claim all you want. Those with sense know better...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It has nothing to do with D'Antoni or your STUPID ING BELIEF that he didnt like any player that was a first round pick simply for being a first round pick.

Show me where I said that. I said Antoni didn't want to coach rookies, I never said he didn't want to coach first round picks.


What's funny is DSF is slob knocking Antoni in this entire thread, but then he'll admit he wanted Antoni gone when he left.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Just think, if the Suns had Antoni, THEY'D BE AS GOOD AS THE KNICKS!!!