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    Did everyone just miss the part of the game where Brandon Roy backdoor'd his ass for a dunk then blew by him like his feet were stuck in quicksand?

    I guess I was the only one who saw that part of the game..
    You must think you're pretty good at basketball, huh? I'm not sure if I can match your intelligence but here goes:

    99% of the time a good offense will beat a good defense BUT....BUT not if there is help defense. You know, "team defense?" Or should I say "Spurs Defense?" This is a work in progress due to the team being new to everyone.

    Playing 1 on 1, Bogans was as tough as they come but Brandon Roy is mentally tough so he's not going to show you any visible frustration. Mmmmmmmmk?

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    Bogans or Bruce.

    Then see if there's still a chance to make a run at Camby.
    Camby?

    Yuck.

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    Youre missing the point. There is no reason to bring in Theo (who has been very injury prone the last few years of his career) in to play significant minutes right now. I mean yea it might help us win now and ease some of you drama queens but his body will eventually fold. He's not up for the grind of the regular season anymore. If you want him for the long-haul he has to be a situational player.

    Now Dice is up in age but I did expect and want him to get more minutes. I do think he is far better than Bonner, but again I have no problem with Bonner starting right now. Besides he has been battling flu-like symptoms so that and blow-outs (wins and losses) are likely contributing to his lack of minutes. I am 99.9% certain Dice will be the starter in the playoffs though or most likely even earlier than that.
    So we should save Ratliff so we can wear down Duncan? Because that's what I saw last night with Tim having to do everything by himself with all that smallball.

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    Agree in theory. All the more reason why I find it hard to fathom Pop not finding minutes for Ian. WHile he's not a shooter who can spread the floor, and you can argue Bonner's inconsistency in that area, I believe Ian would be a definite defensive, rebounding and post offensive upgrade to Bonner.
    good points.
    although it may obliterate his confidence, shouldn't the spurs limit bonner's minutes to play mahinmi... it couldn't hurt, especially considering bonner's recent play.

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    i was for this when we got him.

    Mason is the odd man out on this team. his threes are less important with the offense being able to come in a lot of diffierent directions, and when he's no hitting them, he is entirely ineffective and useless. to make things worse, he has a bad tendency to stall the offense. if you notice, he overdribbles and does this stupid thing where he shot fakes after he's dribbled and is basically stuck and has to give it away to someone else, and usually that player is in bad position to do anything.

    he's a great spot up shooter. when in dire need of points or threes, the Spurs should call his number. but this team has too many offensive options to give it to him consistently. they've got to maximize their offense, and running plays through Finley or Mason isn't going to do that. Bogans is perfect because, like Bowen, he's a great defender and doesn't hurt the Spurs if he's not hitting shots. Mason doesn't need to be in there when the Spurs plenty of other guys who are more reliable scorers than he is (Duncan, Parker, Manu, RJ, McDyess, and perhaps even Hill and Blair ...)

    i'd like to see Hill play more of the two as well. less Finley and Mason, please. it's clear they are a blow defensively to this team. Pop seriously has his head up his ass if he wants to get this team to play top-tier defense and he continues to play Bonner, Finley, and Mason a lot. maybe there are factors we don't know about his decision making, who knows?

    it's sucks for RMJ. he's a class act and works his tail off, but he's not the answer for this team.

    I want to see these guys get the backcourt minutes:

    Parker/Hill
    Bogans/Manu

    the good thing about this rotation is there's really not much weakness defensively.

    i'd also like to see Haislip and Hairston on the floor at some point just to see what they can do. i'm so ing sick of Pop's love affair with Finley and Bonner. these guys clearly suck and aren't helping the team in any other areas if they're not hitting threes.
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    bogans is a damn damn good defender. I would compare him with old bowen(not young bowen) plus he is faster and a lot more athletic.

    I don't mind him getting minutes. and starting once in a while vs. a great player (roy/kobe/etc,etc)

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    Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. I'm a big fan of uglyball - it's been a pretty damn good prescription for the Spurs over the years.

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    If Bogans is what it takes to slow other teams down then I'm all for him eating minutes. So long as he doesn't do anything on the offensive end other than pass and take the rare open shot, i'm cool.

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    i was for this when we got him.

    Mason is the odd man out on this team. his threes are less important with the offense being able to come in a lot of diffierent directions, and when he's no hitting them, he is entirely ineffective and useless. to make things worse, he has a bad tendency to stall the offense. if you notice, he overdribbles and does this stupid thing where he shot fakes after he's dribbled and is basically stuck and has to give it away to someone else, and usually that player is in bad position to do anything.



    it's sucks for RMJ. he's a class act and works his tail off, but he's not the answer for this team.



    i'd also like to see Haislip and Hairston on the floor at some point just to see what they can do. i'm so ing sick of Pop's love affair with Finley and Bonner. these guys clearly suck and aren't helping the team in any other areas if they're not hitting threes.
    I agree with you on RMJ. That pump fake is not so much a fake but a hesitation. I think he doubts himself or the "situation" he's in, which are traits that no PG should have. Kinda reminds of Beno. RMJ is legit as a spot up shooter but like you said, this team is offensively stacked and all of a sudden 48 mins. isn't enough. I like RMJ; but as of now, I see him as a weak link especially against better teams. He did run a nice Pick and Roll with Dice for all it's worth, maybe he'll show us something.

    I'd like to see Haislip and Hairston out there too. Not just for 1 or 2 games but for 6-7 just to see how well they adapt. I gather that Haislip can run, so it'd be interesting to see if he can play the 3 position and keep up with the "Lebron's and Artest's;" he's certainly strong enough. It would be nice to have another defesive specialist for the guys that Boagns can't guard. Please play this guy Pop.

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