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    That's not limited to the military. You put an ugly woman in an all male office, and watch out.
    it was especially bad overseas bc many guys were afraid to talk to foreign chicks... they would be stuck with the military chicks or spouses... they were all beauty queens!!!

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    New Pope elected:

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    I knew you were in the military, but I did not know what branch, type of service etc etc.

    Honestly, what other reasoning do you have for excluding a gender from combat other than gut feelings or personal family observations?
    Here comes another stereotype! Men tend to think more logically. Women are more prone to be emotional about things. I got that from observing other women. Not an assumption, or a personal experience. Women don't like to admit it, but it's true. Differences in the biology of the brain.

    And I was a med tech in the Air Force. Might surprise you to know I haven't been barefoot and pregnant all my life :p

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    That is a personal experience Des.

    I've seen some of the guys who are considered able for combat and well, I haven't been very impressed. I know there are women out there capable of out performing them.

    It's just like not allowing women to fly combat missions. That was shot down (muahhhahaha, another bad pun for you) just as the rest will be.

    The military is a haven for stereotypes as they leave regular society. Don't ask don't tell, anyone?

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    That is a personal experience Des.

    I've seen some of the guys who are considered able for combat and well, I haven't been very impressed. I know there are women out there capable of out performing them.

    It's just like not allowing women to fly combat missions. That was shot down (muahhhahaha, another bad pun for you) just as the rest will be.

    The military is a haven for stereotypes as they leave regular society. Don't ask don't tell, anyone?
    don't even get me started on gays in the military... i'd rather have women in combat!

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    There are currently, and always have been, gays in combat.

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    There are currently, and always have been, gays in combat.
    but not openly people serving...

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    I didn't say interacting with other women, I said observing them.

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    Des, did you conduct a scientific study? Because if not, I'm going to file it under personal experience.

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    but not openly people serving...
    Ok, you might want to clarify because they way this reads to me is that the people in the military are so phobic that knowing someone who was serving was gay, regardless of how well they did their job, would have a large effect.

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    In the heat of battle I don't give a crap if you are gay or not.

    In the heat of passion? well, that's a different story.

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    Wow, you're really off base. Ratzinger's membership in the Hitler Youth was not voluntary but compulsory. He was even the son of an anti-Nazi policeman. Nice try, though.

    I'm not catholic, or even religious for that matter, but I respect others' beliefs. Pope John Paul II was a great man. Ratzinger has big shoes to fill, but I think he is capable of doing so.

    Maybe someone with more knowledge of the Catholic faith can correct me, but is Ratzinger not a ... well, "placeholder" pope. After such a strong leader in JPII, I assume the church chose someone who will sit on the throne for a decade or so and will maintain the status quo ... while in the meantime, others in the church will decide which direction the church will take after the passage of Benedict XVI.

    Am I incorrect in this thinking?

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    Des, did you conduct a scientific study? Because if not, I'm going to file it under personal experience.
    We did do a few studies where I worked, but none officially on this subject, so you go right ahead and file, if you so desire.

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    We did do a few studies where I worked, but none officially on this subject, so you go right ahead and file, if you so desire.
    How were the studies conducted? I'm curious.

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    you get an A on your religion test, dcole

    but would you vote for the Round Mound of Rebound if he ran for governor of alabama?
    haha, i've decided i will. we have a history of electing awful governors. there's no humanly possible way that barkley could be our worst. maybe he'll get into a few bar fights while in office.

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    How were the studies conducted? I'm curious.
    I worked in OB/GYN, Women's Health, etc. Later I worked in the ICU, eventually the neonatal ICU. We did studies on birth control, mental health, hormone levels and their effects on emotion... some of them I had to sign statements for (you know what I mean).

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    What did you find?

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    What we found in most of them was one of those "well, duh" kind of things. Hormones (and their monthly swings) play a HUGE role in women's emotions, and in some cases, even their mental states.

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    Would your findings affect a woman's ability to be in combat? And would a mans fluctuations of res also effect his combat readiness?

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    Men's hormones don't fluctuate as severely as women's, I believe. Men are mostly testosterone. That goes up and down a bit, but mostly remains steady. The women we studied... many of them were absolute wrecks during PMS time. Some felt angry for no reason they could pin down, and therefore acted more angrily and compulsively. Those diagnosed with depression (and some who were but were not diagnosed) became more depressed. And one thing was very common... birth control added fuel to the fire. It made those women CRAZY. Take a system that is slightly unstable to begin with, add more hormones... I wouldn't have trusted most of them farther than I could throw them. Put them in a combat situation and you have the makings of a disaster.

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    So, do all potential soldiers who go into combat go through psychological evaluations?

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    Don't know. Sure as hope so!

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    So then it's safe to assume that women would undergo those same evaluations and if they had any depression concerns, they would be found?

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    Depression sometimes will go in cycles. If someone chooses to lie and the depression is "dormant" (for lack of a better word), it might not be detected. In an ideal world they wouldn't lie, but we all know better than that.

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