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  1. #126
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    I said CP3 is somewhere between 5-10. West I said top 25 MAYBE ...Okafor top 50

  2. #127
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    David West isn't even a top 100 player

    Okafor is the 2nd best player on the team, but he's not remotely close to star level.

    CP3 is a Top 7 PG, maybe top 25-30 player in this league... but he lacks wherewithal
    But here lies the conundrum. You claim that the Hornets are overrated. You claim that they overachieved. You claim that they only have one good player.

    So, was Chris Paul the sole reason for the Hornets 56 wins season and defeat of the Mavericks in the first round of 08? If so, how can he only be a "Top 7 PG" and "maybe top 25-30 player in the league"?

    If David West is truly overrated, and Chris Paul made him an All Star, then how is Paul overrated?

  3. #128
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    I said CP3 is somewhere between 5-10. West I said top 25 MAYBE ...Okafor top 50
    Name me 5 players who are better than Chris Paul.

    Here, I'll start you off:

    James
    Wade
    Bryant.

    I'm waiting.

  4. #129
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    ....Like I was waiting for you last nite.

    tee, hee.

  5. #130
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    ....Like I was waiting for you last nite.

    tee, hee.
    Why would you wait for me? Do you play for the Phoenix Suns?

    Oh, and where were you when the Mavericks kicked your team's ass? At least the Hornets can win a home game against the Mavericks.

  6. #131
    Believe.
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    Why not? The Spurs got Duncan from tanking.
    What about next year's prospects? I'm not into it right now.

  7. #132
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    Name me 5 players who are better than Chris Paul.

    Here, I'll start you off:

    James
    Wade
    Bryant.

    I'm waiting.
    dwight (big man vs pg ... ANY manager would start with d12 over cp3)
    melo (has been balling out of his mind)

  8. #133
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    Name me 5 players who are better than Chris Paul.

    Here, I'll start you off:

    James
    Wade
    Bryant.

    I'm waiting.
    Howard, Duncan, Dirk and Melo arguably are better. CP3 is top 10, not necessarily top 5.

  9. #134
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    I remember when the Celtics came for Scott in the '87 Finals. Magic cut him & Worthy a loose from his apron strings to sink or swim. Scott stuck 'em head first, straight into California earth as Worthy bore witness.

  10. #135
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    I'd take Paul over Wade too.
    You crazy.

  11. #136
    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    Are we talking about this season or for a future with the Wade or CP3 discussion? If it's for this season, I'll take Wade. For the next 10 years, I am going with CP3.

  12. #137
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Carmelo - no! There is more to the game than scoring.
    Dirk - This isn't 2007. Nah, forget that. I'd take Paul now over Dirk from any time.
    Dwight - Yeah, until the defense stops him and he becomes a liability at the end of games.
    Duncan - We're talking about players who are better now. Duncan's past his prime.

    Let's be serious here.

  13. #138
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    Congrats to the Hornets on selecting Jesse "The Body" Ventura as their new head coach. Or at least it looks that way.

  14. #139
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    Carmelo - no! There is more to the game than scoring.
    Dirk - This isn't 2007. Nah, forget that. I'd take Paul now over Dirk from any time.
    Dwight - Yeah, until the defense stops him and he becomes a liability at the end of games.
    Duncan - We're talking about players who are better now. Duncan's past his prime.

    Let's be serious here.
    LOL .. have you seen melo play?. Seriously, look at one nuggets game. I'm not a fan of the nuggets but i acknowledge value. Melo is balling like craaaazy.
    Dirk can still carry a team when it matters, so from that standpoint he is ok, and still you forget dirk's unique abilities for a bigmen.
    Dwight.. now... why did orlando reach the finals? Because there are very few good bigmen. I does not matter that he only knows how to stuff it. What matters is that 1v1 in the post he is a monster that changes the game much more than ANYBODY in the league. And he is improving (hard to see right now because the refs are giving him idiot calls because he talkted about the referees)
    Duncan is a system. He is not a player. He is a basis on which you can develop a team. A basis which no pg not named magic johnson can be.

    No hate on cp3 but think of the players as goods and of the nba as a market. Some good are super rare (dwight-dominant big, lebrons- freak of nature, wade-like bron but more refined and less freak of nature,kobe- unstoppable scorer) and some are not. And there are many great pgs in the game now: dwill, rose(will get there this year), tony parker(imagine his numbers if he would play all by himself). And look at what the young generations bring: john wall, tyreke evans, johnny flynn. From a talent point of view cp3 is right up there. From a uniqueness point of view he is not.

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