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  1. #126
    I don't believe shit JJ Hickson's Avatar
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  3. #128
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    people are laka hataz for a reasonz sonz itz cuz the Clippas are the betta team in LA!

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    Best player in Europe at the time of the trade = zero value? I guess you know nothing about basketball.
    You're an idiot. Marc Gasol was not the MVP of Euroleage. Saying that he was is kind of like saying Juan Carlos Navarro was the NBA MVP.

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    lol lakers fans being trolled for once

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    lol lakers fans being trolled for once
    marc gasol > pau gasol

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    THe lakers are a team that has to be catered to when they suck pure donkey ass.

    Oops, Kobe talking about quitting, getting raped in the 1st round by the suns a couple of years..

    We really got to do something about this.

    Pitiful, and then there fans brag.

    Funny, I'm pretty sure I still read that the spurs were the team of the decade

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    i love new posters. lights up my eyes

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    If it was collusion, It's the kind of collusion I hope happens over and over

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    Good to see Rome slapping Pop upside the sucker like that.

  11. #136
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    Cap space, stupid. Proven = best player in Europe at the time.

    What did Jefferson prove? That he couldn't play a lick of defense and could fill the box score on one of the worst teams in the league.
    Are we talking about Al Jefferson or Marc Gasol with this statement? Because the case can be made for both, since Memphis isn't exactly killing giants.

    Marc Gasol putting up good big man numbers for this Memphis team does not automatically make the Laker trade a "more fair" trade. , the only compe ion he has at center there is the offensively inept Hasheem Thabeet.

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    You want "fair" Dunc? Go back to f'in kindergarten you gd loser, you.

  13. #138
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    care to name a few?
    The Sixers trade Charles Barkley to the Phoenix Suns for Jeff Hornacek, Tim Perry and Andrew Lang.
    - This was the official start to a dark age for the 76ers. They dealt a Hall of Famer (albeit a Hall of Famer who wanted out of town) for a version of Jeff Hornacek that wasn’t quite the Hornacek who knocked down bucket after bucket for those great Jazz teams, a disappointing role player in Perry and Lang, who only played one season in Philly.


    The Raptors send Vince Carter to the Nets in exchange for Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, Alonzo Mourning and two first-round draft picks.
    - VC was dealt for an entire frontcourt – one that was totally defunct. ‘Zo refused to play above the border, and Eric and Aaron averaged a ulative 3.95 points in their seasons with the Raptors.


    The Sonics trade Scottie Pippen to the Bulls for Olden Polynice.
    - Granted, Seattle made this deal before Scottie ever suited up for them, but they should still be reprimanded dealing a Top 50 NBA player for a big who’s claim to fame will forever be that he was charged with impersonating a police officer, not once but twice? Um, yeah.


    The Suns trade Steve Nash to the Mavericks for Martin Muursepp, Bubba Wells, the draft rights to Pat Garrity and a first round draft pick.
    - This deal isn’t quite as bad as it would seem to be at first glance (which is pretty awful). That first round pick was used to take Shawn Marion and the Suns eventually lured Nash back to Phoenix as a free agent.


    The Hornets send the rights for Kobe Bryant to the Lakers for Vlade Divac.
    - True, Kobe made it known that he didn’t want to play in Charlotte (as ChrisGO points out in the comments below), but could you imagine if the Hornets had convinced Mamba to stay?


    The Bucks acquire Oscar Robertson from the Cincinnati Royals for Flynn Robinson and Charlie Paulk.
    - Big O led the Bucks to a chip alongside Lew Alcindor the next year, while the Royals celebrated their success by being booed out of Cincinnati two years later.


    The Bucks trade the rights to Robert “Tractor” Traylor to the Mavericks for the rights to Dirk Nowitzki and the rights to Pat Garrity.
    - Garrity appears again in this list as part of this lopsided deal. Do we even have to get into how poorly this worked out for Milwaukee?


    The Celtics send the rights to Joe Barry Carroll to the Warriors for Robert Parish and the rights to a draft choice that turned out to be Kevin McHale.
    - Parish and McHale are two-thirds of what was arguably the best frontcourt in history, while Carroll earned the nickname “Joe Barely Cares” from Peter Vecsey.


    The Warriors deal Wilt Chamberlain to the 76ers for Paul Neumann, Connie Dierking, Lee Shaffer (who retired rather than play) and $150,000.


    ... and this list could go on for pages and pages.

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    So we can meet face to face?
    Only if you shave your ass and walk backward.

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    You want "fair" Dunc? Go back to f'in kindergarten you gd loser, you.
    Is it "fair" to discredit Al Jefferson as a player for putting up good #'s on bad Celtics & T-Wolves team, yet prop up Marc Gasol for putting up worse numbers on an equally bad Grizzlies team? Only if you are a Laker fan trying to justify the Gasol trade, I guess.

    I'm just sayin... 21Blessings is talking in circles on this one.

    Jefferson
    Boston (before trade) 16ppg, 11 rebounds, 1.5 blks, 51% shooting
    Minny (after trade) 21ppg, 11 rebounds, 1.4 blks 50% shooting

    Marc Gasol
    (1st season) 11ppg, 7 rebounds, 1.1 blks, 53% shooting
    (2nd season) 14ppg, 9.8 rebounds, 1.6 blks, 61% shooting

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    Is it "fair" to discredit Al Jefferson as a player for putting up good #'s on bad Celtics & T-Wolves team, yet prop up Marc Gasol for putting up worse numbers on an equally bad Grizzlies team? Only if you are a Laker fan trying to justify the Gasol trade, I guess.

    I'm just sayin... 21Blessings is talking in circles on this one.

    Jefferson
    Boston (before trade) 16ppg, 11 rebounds, 1.5 blks, 51% shooting
    Minny (after trade) 21ppg, 11 rebounds, 1.4 blks 50% shooting

    Marc Gasol
    (1st season) 11ppg, 7 rebounds, 1.1 blks, 53% shooting
    (2nd season) 14ppg, 9.8 rebounds, 1.6 blks, 61% shooting
    Don't try and put this off on 21. You prompted "fair."

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    The reason collusion is even brought up is because, at the time, no other team was given a real opportunity to trade for Pau. Plus other teams were willing to give Memphis more than what they got from the Lakers. Add to that West's close ties to the Lakers and Buss and things get real fishy.
    Absolutely NOT TRUE. Several teams made offers. It was well known for over a year that Pau was on the block. The Grizz decided to reduce salary and rebuild and went for the highest available expiring contract packaged with as many pick as possible which luckily for the the Lakers was Kwame's. West was NOT the GM for the Grizz. He had left the year prior. Wallace, Heisler, and West all have gone on record as saying West had NOTHING to do with this trade. Get your facts straight.

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    Don't try and put this off on 21. You prompted "fair."
    Actually I said "more fair." Nice try though, Cully. Try bringing some ammo for your pea-shooter next time you're lookin for a fight, ya turdhound you.

    I was talking about how 21 mentioned the KG trade for Al Jefferson was a more lopsided trade than Pau to the Lakers. He thought the Gasol trade was "more fair" than the KG trade, because Jefferson put up big numbers on a bad team. Same as Marc has done, only Jefferson's numbers have been better...

    Thanks for being my fart catcher though.

    Tee, hee.

  19. #144
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    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.

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    It's very simple. All this analysis is a waste of energy.

    The Lakers were irrelevant after Shaquille left town, and Bryant could only take them to a 7-8 seed by himself, if he even got them to the playoffs at all. So Bryant was complaining, threatening that he wanted to be traded, and Chicago was the team we were all hearing about. This was hilarious to me, becuase if Bryant were good enough, he should be able to take "his" team to a le by himself, right? Anyway, Chicago had also been trying to get Gasol for a while, but were reluctant to give up Luol Deng and a couple of other key young guys.

    So David Stern stepped in and orchestrated the Gasol-to-LA trade, which was so far beyond anyone's wildest imagination because the Lakers had NOBODY Memphis would want. That was obvious to the entire universe (including Popovich). Chicago is the team which had all the trade assets at that time. But that's just it - Stern stepped in and made it happen. Why do you think Bryant was complaining so hard? Because he knew the Lakers were capped out and didn't have any trade assets, so he was stuck there in the 7-8 seed level until a couple other contracts came off the books.

    So Stern accomplished two things - he not only kept Bryant in LA, he BROUGHT the Lakers - a team which under ordinary cir stances could never trade old, worthless parts for a top talent like Gasol - a versatile and very skilled 7-foot center.

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    Easy peasy, Japaneese.

  22. #147
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    God Culburn you are one disgusting sick .

  23. #148
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    Perhaps, but, I'm here.

    tee, hee.

  24. #149
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    It's very simple. All this analysis is a waste of energy.

    The Lakers were irrelevant after Shaquille left town, and Bryant could only take them to a 7-8 seed by himself, if he even got them to the playoffs at all. So Bryant was complaining, threatening that he wanted to be traded, and Chicago was the team we were all hearing about. This was hilarious to me, becuase if Bryant were good enough, he should be able to take "his" team to a le by himself, right? Anyway, Chicago had also been trying to get Gasol for a while, but were reluctant to give up Luol Deng and a couple of other key young guys.

    So David Stern stepped in and orchestrated the Gasol-to-LA trade, which was so far beyond anyone's wildest imagination because the Lakers had NOBODY Memphis would want. That was obvious to the entire universe (including Popovich). Chicago is the team which had all the trade assets at that time. But that's just it - Stern stepped in and made it happen. Why do you think Bryant was complaining so hard? Because he knew the Lakers were capped out and didn't have any trade assets, so he was stuck there in the 7-8 seed level until a couple other contracts came off the books.

    So Stern accomplished two things - he not only kept Bryant in LA, he BROUGHT the Lakers - a team which under ordinary cir stances could never trade old, worthless parts for a top talent like Gasol - a versatile and very skilled 7-foot center.
    Proof? Until anyone shows proof it's nothing put speculation on your part. I'll believe the people involved until I see proof otherwise and you whiners can cry collusion all you want as we rack up the les.

    How's those grapes tasting? A tad sour?

  25. #150
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    Perhaps, but, I'm here.

    tee, hee.


    Yeah I know you're here, in A the mods forbid you from posting pics because of the sick perverted things you would post if you could.

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