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  1. #126
    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    what makes you think it isn't? do you just assume that a completion indicates an accurate throw? you just going on the stats and box scores?
    What did you and ducks talk about today?

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    yeah Welker was obviously much more vital to that offense, Moss disappeared for stretches and just got a lot of touchdown tosses to keep his ego massaged, but Moss was quite the disappointment this year.

    and VJ, though he could have gotten better stats in a different system, doesn't deserve to be in over Marshall, Marshall basically carried that Denver offense.

    however, Rivers's deep ball is terrible, his average bomb to VJ is about 5 yards off. often times his throws are under or overthrown by 10 yards. If he could hit VJ deep, I'm sure VJ would have been in the Pro Bowl. frankly, I think VJ/Gates/Floyd/the screen pass make Rivers look like a better QB than he is.


    As a long time charger fan I seriously question if you know anything about the team at all. The screen pass/dump off call is what people who don't watch the thing say Rivers always does. Rivers only dumps/screens to sprolesy and LT now and then. Almost all of Gates' completions are up the middle for a minimum of 10 yards, there's hardly any bs 5 yarders to gates-wtf u talkin bout. And VJ for your information has the 2nd highest yards/catch out of the 1000 yard receivers. He has 17.2 y/catch, desean jackson is first with 18.7 y/catch. But I guess that's because they do little drop passes a VJ always runs for like 15 yards after the catch!!! ROFL. VJ gets most of his passes through mid/deep crossing routes and deep outs/slants. I will agree rivers has underthrown him a few times, but damn they have hooked up on a LOT of big time completions. Your analysis of the bolded portion is exactly what a person who doesn't know the chargers would say.

    As for VJ over marshall, yes. Im sorry you reward the player on the team that is miles better than the other. Marshall has quite a few more catches but look at his avg y/catch....there's the guy who gets quick little dump slants and short yardage catches....11.1 y/catch to 17.2. Quite a big difference. They are about even on TDs and yards, so I give it to the guy who plays for the obviously better team and the guy who makes bigger plays consistently-thats VJ. VJ also opens up a lot of middle plays for gates, and vice-versa. Both are important and both should be pro bowlers for the team with the second best record in the AFL.

  3. #128
    The "better team" argument doesn't apply in the NFL for a position like WR IMO..I don't see how it would..

    If Marshall was playing for San Diego, it wouldn't even be debatable..

    He's the only weapon we've had for our offense..

    Jackson has a top 4 QB throwing to him, Tomlinson and Sproles in the backfield and Antonio Gates next to him..compared to Kyle Orton(a top 30 QB?), Moreno and Buckhalter in the backfield, an injury-depleted offensive line with one of the weakest interiors in the NFL, and no other receivers that come anywhere near Gates in impact..

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    As a long time charger fan I seriously question if you know anything about the team at all. The screen pass/dump off call is what people who don't watch the thing say Rivers always does. Rivers only dumps/screens to sprolesy and LT now and then. Almost all of Gates' completions are up the middle for a minimum of 10 yards, there's hardly any bs 5 yarders to gates-wtf u talkin bout. And VJ for your information has the 2nd highest yards/catch out of the 1000 yard receivers. He has 17.2 y/catch, desean jackson is first with 18.7 y/catch. But I guess that's because they do little drop passes a VJ always runs for like 15 yards after the catch!!! ROFL. VJ gets most of his passes through mid/deep crossing routes and deep outs/slants. I will agree rivers has underthrown him a few times, but damn they have hooked up on a LOT of big time completions. Your analysis of the bolded portion is exactly what a person who doesn't know the chargers would say.

    As for VJ over marshall, yes. Im sorry you reward the player on the team that is miles better than the other. Marshall has quite a few more catches but look at his avg y/catch....there's the guy who gets quick little dump slants and short yardage catches....11.1 y/catch to 17.2. Quite a big difference. They are about even on TDs and yards, so I give it to the guy who plays for the obviously better team and the guy who makes bigger plays consistently-thats VJ. VJ also opens up a lot of middle plays for gates, and vice-versa. Both are important and both should be pro bowlers for the team with the second best record in the AFL.
    Rivers is pretty good, and pretty accurate, but he doesn't have a very strong arm.

  5. #130
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    The Pro Bowl is not a reward for being on a good team. If your team gets the #1 or #2 seed, half of your team isn't going to Miami. If being on a good team was a criterion for making the Pro Bowl, there would be no Houston, NYJ, or Buffalo players named to the roster, but there are.

    Charger fan on this board continues to shoot his own foot off.

  6. #131
    Charger fan on this board continues to shoot his own foot off.

    It's amazing how one fan base can have so much frontal lobe damage. Other than holc all the Charger fans on here I seriously question whether or not they need help turning their computer on.

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    Btw Holc, that game was one of the most embarrassing, humiliating things I've ever witnessed.

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    I don't get why people give a about the PB. Guys get shafted every year.

    DeAngelo Williams and Calvin Johnson were two big ones last year.

    And Jason Hanson got the snub solely because of the team he played for...

    Big ing deal.

  9. #134
    The Crominator J.T.'s Avatar
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    It's amazing how one fan base can have so much frontal lobe damage. Other than holc all the Charger fans on here I seriously question whether or not they need help turning their computer on.
    Chargers are like the Suns of the NFL right now.

  10. #135
    Chargers are like the Suns of the NFL right now.

    If the Chargers are the Suns then the Patriots are the Spurs

  11. #136
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    Spurs never cheated. Try again.

  12. #137
    Damn why you so pissed of today?

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    Son of a , what the is wrong with people.

    Malcom Floyd????? Seriously.

  14. #139
    Btw Holc, that game was one of the most embarrassing, humiliating things I've ever witnessed.
    OMG bro. I'm so embarrassed, I really can't defend the pac in any way after that performance. We finally make a good bowl and just all over, what was foles like 6-25 for like 50 yards?!?! U kidding ha.

    And the chargers fans on spurstalk are a handicapped bunch it seems like. Oh well I weekly go to bars and talk to legitimate fans about them-only team I like that's really a "home" team. JT would be so angry driving around diego right now....chargers flags poppin up and people constantly talking about them...there might be a murder spree. And not all chargers fans are ing re s-i admit there are a bunch of tattooed gets who think they're badass and parade around like y fans but all fan bases have s. There's a lot of mellow chargers fans. Obviously this board makes charger fans look bad

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