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I'm glad we didn't get the chance to trade a first round pick for a short term rental on a guy older than Dice.
Yeah. I would love to be pleasantly surprised as well. With so many teams wanting to get under the cap and shedding contracts, something ought to happen. Only there is very little traction about it in the media circles and I don't envisage anything major without touching Manu's expiring, which for me will be a shame.
I'm glad we didn't get the chance to trade a first round pick for a short term rental on a guy older than Dice.
Well that's the first step, unfortunately there are plenty of old guys that could still be available..
Yeah don't get the hand wringing over Marcus freakin Camby,...
I wouldn't be that glad to lose out on a guy with a 18+ PER, has 12.1 RPG, 2 BPG at age 36, has an expiring contract, just because I can save on a first round pick most likely in the late 20s. That too, when I have spent a fortune above cap space to win a championship within the Tim Duncan window.
Camby is probably the 2nd most overrated player in the NBA based on his stats, only behind his teammate Chris Kaman..maybe Biedrins is there too..there's a reason Nuggets fans were so happy to see him go..
He's a good player, but he has a lot of flaws and bad tendencies that won't change at his age..
He can rebound and block shots, but he can't defend 1 on 1 in the post, he misses a lot of rotations, takes a lot of bad shots and is horrible at defending the pick and roll..
The Spurs need some players that are under 30..
You know if we were 38-13 and battling the Lakers for the top seed in the West, I'd be all for giving up a pick to get Camby. Unfortunately, we're 30-21 and one significant injury away from the lottery. Adding Camby makes the team better this season, but it doesn't nearly bridge the gulf between the Spurs and the Lakers. If we're going to give up a first rounder, we should get back a player who helps us beyond this season. So, I'm glad Camby is no longer available.
Yeah .. except he has a +8.5 in adjusted +/- (source: BasketballvalueDOTcom) and a good PER and all those objective metrics. One wonders how he manages to be in the Top 50 players in such stats and still be so bad as you make him out to be.
With all his flaws, he could still have been a good presence in the stretch run relieving Tim off some interior defense pressure.
But yes, no use lamenting now. He will play for the Blazers who don't have a decent defensive big and will suck.
they made Al Thornton available, so he isn't in their plans for the future. Outlaw would be a player, who could take this role for years to come. makes a lot of sense for the Clippers.
As I said, he's a good player, but he's severely flawed and overrated..
Of course his PER is high, he has solid numbers..PER also loves rebounding and he's one of the best rebounders in the NBA..his +/- is also always higher due to the poor depth that's usually behind him on his teams..the players behind him are usually pretty horrible..
Everything I said is a fact though..he does his own thing with team defense and he's too skinny and frail to be a good defender in the post..the best teams can expose Camby's defense, as we've seen with the old Spurs teams(Nene was always much more effective in defending Duncan)..the Lakers also severely exposed him in their series vs. Denver in Camby's last year there..
The Spurs don't need any more old-ass players, we have enough of them..
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 02-16-2010 at 04:02 AM.
Yea, Outlaw's definitely an upgrade over Thornton, IMO.
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He's not what we need. We need younger players who hustle. If only Blair was a 7 footer...
I don't buy into all that PER stuff, it doesn't take into account the little things that impact the game.
So Camby's happy in LA but his wife isn't and that's why he doesn't want to move?
His wife is not happy in L.A.?
The original artice on the link says that his wife is happy in L.A.
“He likes the Clippers, he likes the organization, he likes L.A.,” the source said. “His wife is happy in L.A. And he’s not one for change. He’s definitely not happy about this.
Is Tree Rollins available to come out of retirement?
Nah, it was all that bball IQ spurstalk regulars preach about constantly...
Amen!
For once, I was pleased to see a team, other than the Spurs, trade for a player in the +30 age range.
This trade does two things:
1. Takes the Blazers out of any potential Tyrus Thomas trade war
2. Could potentially make Travis Outlaw available this summer.
Probably they saw the mistake in original original article and edited it.
His jumpshot (if you want to call it that) is the ugliest shooting form I've ever seen on a basketball court. Which makes him practically useless with anything other farther than 5 feet and almost assures if he was a spur his man won't be stationed more than a few feet from the paint and would disrupt the entire spurs' offense.
Nah, but I hear Manute Bol, and Cadillac Anderson might be getting ready. I also heard from a friend that said her sisters cousin's cousin's friend told him that he saw Mosses Malone working out at the gym... so ya never know.
Anyone here heard where Shawn Bradley might be these days?
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Portland is throwing $3 million into Camby package, league source says. That's why Clips chose this deal -- not anything else.
Yeah, figures. $3 million is how much it costs to buy a first round pick so there's no way the Spurs could have beaten this deal. Blake and Outlaw are quality players in addition to being expiring contracts. The first round pick the Spurs could have offered was matched by that cash.
So, in other words, we're back to knowing nothing about what the Spurs are thinking or doing.
Yup. The Spurs can't pander to Greed. And that is good for the values' based organisation that they are.
No wonder Camby is so angry. He has been sold not for any reason to improve, but for Sterling to make some dough. That hurt his supper, indeed.
And hopefully the Spurs didn't try to beat this deal. The Spurs are desparate for a young athletic big. The last thing the Spurs need is another AARP candidate.
Sterling seems to always put $$ before team success.
But Camby's older than dirt with a -ton of mileage and is not in their long term plans. I don't even fault Sterling for getting rid of him, and if someone handed me 3 million dollars to dump him, I certainly wouldn't object either.
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