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    you wrongie assholes assume low-paying jobs are just lying around for anybody who wants to work for minimum wage, so why are blacks at 28% unem. rate, why are all kids at 20% unem rate?

    Everybody can't get off unem just because they want to. 6 seekers for every job offered, mofos.

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    you wrongie assholes assume low-paying jobs are just lying around for anybody who wants to work for minimum wage, so why are blacks at 28% unem. rate, why are all kids at 20% unem rate?

    Everybody can't get off unem just because they want to. 6 seekers for every job offered, mofos.
    Ok, why aren't teenagers at 100% unemployment? I mean, the adults should be taking their jobs. I will see your "6 seekers . . ." and raise you 2 FREAKIN YEARS
    The only way it should last over 1 year is if the person is in school learning something new.

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    Ok, so I just googled "what percentage does unemployment pay" because I didn't believe it was 33% (one website said it was between 48% and 52%.) and the very first link I clicked on was a site where a guy said he was probably going to be laid off and wanted to know if he should go get a job, or just collect unemployment, but he wanted to gauge how much money he would make.
    Just to follow up on this, the TWC website has an unemployment benefits estimator. Just playing around with it, it looks like you get 50% benefit if the job you lost paid $40k/yr or less. Above that, the weekly benefit is capped at $406/wk. $406/wk still equates to a $10/hr job, so I can certainly see there being people out there not being in all that big a hurry to go start delivering pizzas.

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    Ok, The only way it should last over 1 year is if the person is in school learning something new.
    yah, they spend their benefits on school......and then live in a locker.

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    I found the maximum benefit for may state at $493 per week:

    Oregon unemployment situation January 2010

    Here are the maximum benefits last year, 1/1/09:

    Unemployment Insurance Benefits in the U.S.A.

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    yah, they spend their benefits on school......and then live in a locker.
    fafsa.ed.gov

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    federal student aid, huh?

    federal, huh?

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    $463 to $493....woo hooo lets through a party!

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    federal student aid, huh?

    federal, huh?
    Yes, problem?

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    oh the lucky few.

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    $463 to $493....woo hooo lets through a party!
    Yew talk funny.

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    good catch.

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    "The only way it should last over 1 year is if the person is in school learning something new."

    There He Goes Again.

    So if it takes a person more than 1 year to find a job, ANY job, in your opinion, the person is a fraud?,
    loser?,
    Welfare Queen?,
    cheater?,
    lazy?
    wants to be foreclosed and bankrupt?

    In your OPiNION, there's no legit way for any job seeker to fail to find a job for more than one year?

    $480/week welfare is $12/hour for 40 hour week, = $25K/year.

    A lot middle class people have structural lifestyle costs that easily surpass $25K/year (mortgage, car, utilities, phone).

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    "The only way it should last over 1 year is if the person is in school learning something new."

    There He Goes Again.

    So if it takes a person more than 1 year to find a job, ANY job, in your opinion, the person is a fraud?,
    loser?,
    Welfare Queen?,
    cheater?,
    lazy?
    wants to be foreclosed and bankrupt?

    In your OPiNION, there's no legit way for any job seeker to fail to find a job for more than one year?

    $480/week welfare is $12/hour for 40 hour week, = $25K/year.

    A lot middle class people have structural lifestyle costs that easily surpass $25K/year (mortgage, car, utilities, phone).
    I don't get the "there he goes again" part.

    Actually yeah, if you are on UI for 2 years, you aren't trying very hard. 1 year is pushing it. I think that if you are receiving a government check, you should be doing something for it. School, public works like mowing the highway, volunteering at the soup kitchen (but you would have to prove this), etc. I feel the same about welfare. Maybe not 40 hours a week, but definitely 20 at the least in order to get your check.

    If you can't live on 25k a year, then get two $9 an hour jobs. It can be done
    When I was 21 I worked as a pressure washer overnight 6 days a week at least 12 hours a day. Oh and when I got home from work, I took a shower left to UTSA where I was taking a full load at school. Funny thing is, when I was tired and was talking to my dad, I couldn't complain. When he was going to school (full time), he was working 2 full time jobs, and had a wife (my mom) and a kid (my sister) at home (wife was also going to school and working part time. He trumps me. He isn't rich, but is well-off now, he doesn't have to work anywhere near the amount because the value of his time is far greater. Yet he takes on tons of projects. Starting non-profits, starting businesses, volunteering for other non-profits, is going to deacon school, and the list goes on.

    I personally don't have to work that hard anymore either, but I am going to start grad school in the summer, have a full time job, wife and two kids. In the early stages of starting a business (putting business plan together).

    If you get free money, do something for it, something that makes this a better place.

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    $480/week welfare is $12/hour for 40 hour week, = $25K/year.

    A lot middle class people have structural lifestyle costs that easily surpass $25K/year (mortgage, car, utilities, phone).
    I'm not an opponent of welfare or UI but I also do not think unemployed people are en led, for an extended amount of time, to the same lifestyle they had when they were employed. You may have to move. You may have to cut back on some non-essentials.

    $480 per week does not seem unreasonable to me at all for someone who is without a job.

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    yah, they spend their benefits on school......and then live in a locker.
    Actually - if you're laid off because of a downsize or business closure, the government will pay to train you in a new field (as long as it's one in demand), and you'll still get your full benefits while being trained. You don't have to look for a job, and, for extreme hardships, there is even some help available for rent and utilities.

    Also, after so many weeks on unemployment (can't remember the number right now), you are required to lower your expected salary by a certain percentage to make you more employable. Of course, I don't think they're checking too carefully right now - they are so overworked, they can't even keep up with the regular stuff, much less investigate fraud.

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    I'm not an opponent of welfare or UI but I also do not think unemployed people are en led, for an extended amount of time, to the same lifestyle they had when they were employed. You may have to move. You may have to cut back on some non-essentials.

    $480 per week does not seem unreasonable to me at all for someone who is without a job.

    On monday, on CNN, they had a lady who was UI from Kentucky who was talking about what a hardship it has been for her being unemployed. How she had to move in with her daughter, and how there were no jobs for whatever industry she used to work in, etc. She said that she was finally catching up a little, that she just got her own place, and now her senator was cutting off her funds. So on and so forth.

    First - If there are no jobs in your industry for this long: FIND A NEW INDUSTRY!

    Second - Why the are you moving into your own place if you don't have a job?

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    Actually - if you're laid off because of a downsize or business closure, the government will pay to train you in a new field (as long as it's one in demand), and you'll still get your full benefits while being trained. You don't have to look for a job, and, for extreme hardships, there is even some help available for rent and utilities.

    Also, after so many weeks on unemployment (can't remember the number right now), you are required to lower your expected salary by a certain percentage to make you more employable. Of course, I don't think they're checking too carefully right now - they are so overworked, they can't even keep up with the regular stuff, much less investigate fraud.
    Seriously? Then there is really no excuse here.

    Oh, additionally, there is also the option of starting your own business.

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    Seriously? Then there is really no excuse here.

    Oh, additionally, there is also the option of starting your own business.
    One more thing - you can actually earn more than your weekly benefit amount if you work a part-time job. If you work, they will increase your weekly benefit by 25% - and then they subtract your earnings from your weekly amount. For instance:

    Your weekly benefit amount is $400
    Plus 25% $100

    So you start with $500 and then let's say you work 10 hours a week at a $10 an hour job. So you earn $100 - which is subtracted from the $500. So you come out with almost $100 extra per week (after taxes).

    But again - many people would rather sit at home and collect their weekly check and not do much of anything to improve their situation.

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    "if you work a part-time job"

    big IF. What if there aren't any part time jobs? Has that thought ever crossed your mind?

    10M unemployed (which is of course not counting part-timers who want full-time, and people who just gave up looking for the jobs that aren't there) and that's expected to hold for the next 2 years.

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    Second - Why the are you moving into your own place if you don't have a job?
    Who was stupid enough to rent to her?

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    Who was stupid enough to rent to her?
    Um, yeah.

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    don't let her rent but give her a federal grant.

    gotcha

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    don't let her rent but give her a federal grant.

    gotcha
    It wasn't my business decision, and I really don't care what that landlord decided, I just think it is funny that an application for residence was approved by a business for a person who is unemployed.

    As far as the federal grant, it isn't given, it is earned.

    I am, however, glad that it seems that you are slowly getting it.

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