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    The costs of doctors are huge component in health care costs, so if costs are to come down, then doctors revenues have to come down. US doctors make 2x what doctors make in other countries.

    Same with BigPharma charging the USA 2x what BigPharma charges other countries for the same drugs. Americans are subsidizing the drugs for "socialist" countries with national health insurance and systems.

    Americans are their own worst enemy, leading pathogenic lifestyles (no exercise) and over-eating corporate food-like . Probably 50% of the national health bill is from (over) treating and over charging for lifestyle diseases.

    I don't really expect any "bending the curve" upward on Americans taking better care of themselves, not any "bending the curve" downward on rip-off doctors and insurance companies.

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    this is front-page news! right, darrin? this should be the lead-in on CBS!!

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    I just do ing get it, he's a private company. And if an obama voter walks in he still has to help them. So why is the ing news

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    I'll let you get back to your crossburning
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    I know everyone wants to know everything about me.
    I don't but I do know you are very very insecure and petty. This thread is another example of it.

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    I don't but I do know you are very very insecure and petty. This thread is another example of it.
    Yeah, that's why you post about me all the time instead of the subject.


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    jackiesommerset the victim

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    Someone was mean to him on the internets!

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    I don't but I do know you are very very insecure and petty. This thread is another example of it.
    definitely

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    You guys need to form a support group.

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    You guys need to form a support group.
    They have one. It's called the GOP.

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    How much did you personally lose?

    How much did doctors lose?
    My personal liberty, the right to not have to buy insurance and instead pay out of pocket. That's like biden would say, "A big ing deal."

    How much did doctors lose? Money, and the degradation of the value of their work, money to hire more staff to deal with the new paperwork, and more stress and headaches in trying to deal with the feds.

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    They have one. It's called the GOP.
    Don't you have the hidden fat forums?

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    What hidden fat forums?

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    My personal liberty, the right to not have to buy insurance and instead pay out of pocket. That's like biden would say, "A big ing deal."
    Do you currently have health insurance?

    Do you really pay out of pocket?

    Yes or no.

    How much did doctors lose? Money, and the degradation of the value of their work, money to hire more staff to deal with the new paperwork, and more stress and headaches in trying to deal with the feds.
    Tell me how much money the doctors are losing.

    Be specific.

    Don't just make up.

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    I own a small business!

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    Do you currently have health insurance?

    Do you really pay out of pocket?

    Yes or no.

    Tell me how much money the doctors are losing.

    Be specific.

    Don't just make up.


    1st,... yes, I have payed out of pocket for my doctors visit and for one emergency visit, and hopefully i won't have to in the near future since i love being healthy.

    2, You've demonstrated yourself to be a moron in this thread by asking how specific amount of money doctors will lose implying that they all receive the same income and salary, all have the same situation. Just like we could never predict the actual cost of medicare until hindsight, the same can be said for how much a certain bill will would specifically cost someone.
    Thing is that doctors are complaining, my family doctor aswell that this bill is going to hurt their offices and make them hire more staff to deal with more govt backed insured patients who will abuse the system.

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    You guys need to form a support group.
    Do you have family members in guantanamo?


    Are you in guantanamo?

    Then Shut the up!

    :Chumpdumper tactic

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    I own a small business!
    I don't need my rights so you don't either.

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    1st,... yes, I have payed out of pocket for my doctors visit and for one emergency visit, and hopefully i won't have to in the near future since i love being healthy.

    2, You've demonstrated yourself to be a moron in this thread by asking how specific amount of money doctors will lose implying that they all receive the same income and salary, all have the same situation. Just like we could never predict the actual cost of medicare until hindsight, the same can be said for how much a certain bill will would specifically cost someone.
    Thing is that doctors are complaining, my family doctor aswell that this bill is going to hurt their offices and make them hire more staff to deal with more govt backed insured patients who will abuse the system.
    So if you don't know what the repurcussions will be, then how can you claim they will be harmful? I think that's chump's point. If you are going to claim that doctors will lose money then you should be able to prove it with something other than your biased opinion.

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    So if you don't know what the repurcussions will be, then how can you claim they will be harmful? I think that's chump's point. If you are going to claim that doctors will lose money then you should be able to prove it with something other than your biased opinion.
    What cons utes proof? a chart? they don't make those on the internets. Do you want me to ask a doctor to provide his w40 information, or would you rather me list examples of how the bill would require doctors to hire staff to deal with federal paperwork, and be forced out of options to give to their patients like i just did previously.

    His questions are stupid.

    And that's not his only point. His point is that if you're not personally affected then you have no ground to gripe about. THat's like saying if you're not black or a minority you shouldn't give a about racial discrimination.
    Quit defending Chumpdumper, he's the .

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    Just like we could never predict the actual cost of medicare until hindsight, the same can be said for how much a certain bill will would specifically cost someone.
    so nobody really knows that it will cost doctors more money, it's just a guess on their/your part.

    Thing is that doctors are complaining, my family doctor aswell that this bill is going to hurt their offices and make them hire more staff to deal with more govt backed insured patients who will abuse the system.
    So they will be losing money because more patients will be walking in the door?

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    So if you don't know what the repurcussions will be, then how can you claim they will be harmful? I think that's chump's point. If you are going to claim that doctors will lose money then you should be able to prove it with something other than your biased opinion.
    eh, beat me to it.

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    What cons utes proof? a chart? they don't make those on the internets. Do you want me to ask a doctor to provide his w40 information, or would you rather me list examples of how the bill would require doctors to hire staff to deal with federal paperwork, and be forced out of options to give to their patients like i just did previously.
    if you are going to claim "they will lose money" then how hard is it to explain exactly how?

    And that's not his only point. His point is that if you're not personally affected then you have no ground to gripe about. THat's like saying if you're not black or a minority you shouldn't give a about racial discrimination.
    Quit defending Chumpdumper, he's the .
    It's posts like these that keep me coming back to the poly forum

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