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    Jefferson needs to stop being a soft pussy and attack the rim, it's not like he can't do it we've seen him do it quite a bit in the second half of the season. He's great at getting to the line and that's what we need from him.
    It's not that he dodged doing so IMHO. According to what i saw, the Mavs just did a wonderful job keeping the Spurs outside of the areas near the basket. Even Manu was handled pretty well and didn't get a pinch of opportunities to penetrate, and was forced to shoot the ball too ing much from longer range.

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    Could Temple possibly play worse than Mason or Bogans? I don't see how.

    Ian could possibly play worse than anyone else on Dirk? So he'd go 14 for 14 or make some more foulshots. Since he is their go to guy I don't think he'd get that many more chances. On the other hand, Ian's length might alter a few shots.

    There is no Dirk stopper.

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    I feel sorry for Jefferson in a way. Dude was never that good to begin with and now he's getting buttraped by the Spurs fans(and probably deserves it).
    The only word I'd modify in your statement is "now." He's been an object of criticism as long as he's under-performed... which has been all season long, unfortunately.

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    Great analysis...agree on every single point. I thought small ball was dead, but Pop resurrected it for some odd reason. And being forced to play Mason is possibly the worst scenario at this point. I hope Hill gets plenty of rest and heals before the Wednesday rematch.

    Still believe the Spurs have this one...Dirk plays out of his mind and the Spurs only lose by 6. My only worry...Terry will not stay this quiet all series long.
    Don't forget Barea/Boubouis either... others the spurs have to keep an eye on who are capable of lighting it up

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    3 steals isn't unusual for Manu but 5 turnovers is.
    We tidy up a few things and it will be back on game 2!
    Butler had 5 t/o's too..

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    Pop is making the same mistake with Blair this year, that he made with Hill last year. Hill was way better than Vaughn was last year. Blair is probably the most effective frontline player, not named Duncan.
    I don't see this situation with other upper-echelon teams. It seems the role players from other teams stay involved and make their contributions in the playoffs the same way they did during the regular season.
    Spot on. Pop's playoff coaching has been more about mistakes than anything else the last 2-3 years.

    He's coaching like a robot now, PJ's "simulator crew" jab has never been more appropriate.

    Combine that with age and injuries, and you have the current heartbreaking state of the Spurs.
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    this will be quick and painful if they play like this again.

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    -Spurs absolutely need RJ and Hill to show up in this series..it's the only way to match Dallas' array of weapons..Hill's play is health-related and RJ's is mental..is either one fixable right now?..I don't know, we'll have to see..the 2 biggest keys in this series IMO..


    -Overall, I wasn't discouraged about this game..the FT margin and stupid turnovers were the main difference..Spurs can bounce back and get it close, but winning will depend on RJ and/or Hill..


    These two were really missed.

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    The team needs to get RJ going early and often. We know that Tim, Manu and Tony can get it going pretty much whenever they want. If RJ establishes himself early, that totally changes how the Mavs have to defend.

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    The team needs to get RJ going early and often. We know that Tim, Manu and Tony can get it going pretty much whenever they want. If RJ establishes himself early, that totally changes how the Mavs have to defend.
    True...

    as painful as it is, RJ is the key for the Spurs success. The Big 3 no longer has what it takes to carry the team in a 7 games serie



    Oh and Ian would help too...

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    Give me a lineup with Ian, Blair, Temple, Manu, and Hill. I honestly feel this lineup could do some damage.
    When the spurs wave the the white flag, you will see this lineup....It would get destroyed especially with a gimpy hill and Ian would probably stay on the floor for 5 minutes before fouling out.

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    Spurs need a healthy Hill or they're done.
    If this is the case, we can thank Derek Fisher for ing another Spurs le run.

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    When the spurs wave the the white flag, you will see this lineup....It would get destroyed especially with a gimpy hill and Ian would probably stay on the floor for 5 minutes before fouling out.
    Yavozerb we all know you pining away for that Euro-stiff named Splitter but give me a break.. 5 minutes? C'mon at least be reasonable.

    The mavs version of "foul machine" Mahinmi (Dampier) stays on the floor more often than not 20+ minutes a game. He played 30 minutes last night, and garnered only 3 fouls.

    Heck, if Mahinmi could even do half as good as that (1 foul every 5 minutes) and give the spurs good interior defense and rebounding he could play up to 30 mins a game.

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    can't you tell? we like to make things interesting by playing jj barea.

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    I didn't watch the game. But from the box score, I see that Nowitzki had a very good shooting game. And like what OP said, that Long Arms was playing 18 passive minutes. Despite all these, we only lost by 6 points on the road.

    Pop's decision to play Long arms was questionable.

    To win the next game, it will be based on 3 things.

    1. Getting the better of dirk.
    I don't think anyone can keep up with that kind of shooting % even for 2 games. Put all kinds of defenders on Dirk to change alter his shot selection and not let him get too comfortable.

    2. Letting manu run all plays.
    Self explanatory.

    3. guard rotations.
    Long arms should not have played. Bad game time decision. 18 minutes could have gone to tony and temple. Honestly, our front line is very weak. Only way to win the series is by tony and manu scoring against an aging kidd and a small berea. Look at the box score. Manu and Tony combined for 44 points. If long arms didn't play, they would exceed 50 points with help from temple/mason.

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    True...

    as painful as it is, RJ is the key for the Spurs success. The Big 3 no longer has what it takes to carry the team in a 7 games serie



    Oh and Ian would help too...
    Any contribution from RJ would be a bonus. However, let's face it. Does anyone think that he's capable of "ramping up" his play to give the Spurs the much needed lift they need? He's struggled all year and he's STILL struggling now. I'm sorry, but I don't have any faith that he's capable of doing that.

    I don't think RJ is a bad player, he's simply miscast on this offense and on this team.

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    Duncan need to guard Nowitzki, Nowitzki is not the quickest player so Duncan could guard him and he will bother him the most because of his length, but than you have to play Blair to help on the boards and also with his physical play he would force Nowitzki to make an effort on the defensive side, he could post up nowitzki. Duncan and Blair needs to play minutes together.
    dirk will be guarding whoever is playing small forward for the spurs... or at least on someone where he can hide on defense. why would the mavs waste nowitzi's energy when they have guys who can do the job?
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    I haven't read any of the posts in this thread so I may be rehashing somethings. I was disappointed with our lapses in judgement. The unforced turnovers were killers.. We will never get away from breathing on dirk and getting called for a foul but we sure as can stop turning the ball over. I have no fault with our effort but the unforced errors are deadly.

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    I haven't read any of the posts in this thread so I may be rehashing somethings. I was disappointed with our lapses in judgement. The unforced turnovers were killers.. We will never get away from breathing on dirk and getting called for a foul but we sure as can stop turning the ball over. I have no fault with our effort but the unforced errors are deadly.
    Duncan got stripped of the ball repeatedly on face ups, at least 5X he was forced into a turnover... he needs to stop facing up on the elbows and either go down on the block and post more or do P&R

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    I haven't read any of the posts in this thread so I may be rehashing somethings. I was disappointed with our lapses in judgement. The unforced turnovers were killers.. We will never get away from breathing on dirk and getting called for a foul but we sure as can stop turning the ball over. I have no fault with our effort but the unforced errors are deadly.
    Agreed. Here's what we need to do the next game to win...

    -NO Roger Mason Jr.
    -NO cute passes.
    -ALL fouls need to make sure the ball doesn't get to the rim, And 1's kill.

    The Spurs LOST, the Mavs didn't win other than the fact that they didn't try to get cute or have RMJ on their team.

    Now let's sack up and get to work!

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    I haven't read any of the posts in this thread so I may be rehashing somethings. I was disappointed with our lapses in judgement. The unforced turnovers were killers.. We will never get away from breathing on dirk and getting called for a foul but we sure as can stop turning the ball over. I have no fault with our effort but the unforced errors are deadly.
    The turnovers and careless ball-handling are an issue. However, they're certainly not new issues. This team has stuggled in this area all season.

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    -I thought Pop coached decently early on but then he reverted to his small ball tactic against the Mavs -- with predictable results. The Mavs outrebounded the Spurs 45-37 and seemed to have control the entire way. With Hill gimpy, Pop needs to put Parker back in the starting lineup and play him big minutes. More minutes for Blair would be nice, as would less minutes for Mason and Bogans. Even if it comes down to playing Temple, Mason and Bogans need to see pine. Overall, the Spurs still have a chance to avoid a third consecutive series loss to the Mavs but they need to play a smarter brand of basketball in Game 2. They have the talent, they need to prove they have the cohesion.
    Unfortunately we need more firepower vs. Mavs so we still will see more Mason. I think Bogans could have a good defensive impact so we also will see more of him.

    we really don't have anyone with balls out there besides Tim, Dice, Manu and Parker.

    The rest of the team is playing like a regular season game. wake up mother ers, it's the playoffs!!!

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    Agreed. Here's what we need to do the next game to win...

    -NO Roger Mason Jr.
    -NO cute passes.
    -ALL fouls need to make sure the ball doesn't get to the rim, And 1's kill.

    The Spurs LOST, the Mavs didn't win other than the fact that they didn't try to get cute or have RMJ on their team.

    Now let's sack up and get to work!
    I agree with no more Mason. Insert Garrett Temple instead.

    Less Bonner. more Blair. While I don't know if there is anything he and the team can do to slow down Dirk, perhaps they should make him work on the defensive end. At least Blair will make up for his lack of size by his effort, desire and glass cleaning.

    Perhaps it's even time to allow Ian to take a turn at Dirk. I know that will NEVER happen in the playoffs, but because of the severe matchup issues they have with the Mavs, Pop doesn't have a lot of options.

    If Pop was desparate enough to resort to the dreaded "Hack-a-Damp" strategy, he should be desparate enough to try some other personnel matchups. At this point, I don't believe Pop can afford to wait until Game 5 to shake things up. He needs to start now.

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    Unfortunately we need more firepower vs. Mavs so we still will see more Mason. I think Bogans could have a good defensive impact so we also will see more of him.

    we really don't have anyone with balls out there besides Tim, Dice, Manu and Parker.

    The rest of the team is playing like a regular season game. wake up mother ers, it's the playoffs!!!
    Oddly enough, and as bad as he has been playing, I agree with this... this team without a healthy George Hill needs to get some scoring off the bench and with RJ not getting many touches since Parker came back and Bonner curling up into a s and Temple being much too green for the intensity of a playoff game.. the spurs desperately need a boost from Roger Mason Jr. in order to have a chance in this series.

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    Nice write up, timvp. I agree with everything. Hopefully Temple will get some time on the court to prove whether or not he can contribute. Mason has already shown us what he contributes, although those fouls on Damp were the only use of him.
    Although the fouls being called for anyone near Dirk were irritating, it was also expected. The refs sure seemed to swallow their whistle every time the guys got near the basket, so hopefully that will swing to the Spurs favor is they get more aggressive.
    Over all, I agree with everyone that the Spurs just did not play as sharp offensively as they need to and should not leave Kidd alone on the 3 pt line. Manage the turnovers, get some contribution from the role players other than Masons, and there is a good chance at a win.
    I still like putting Bogans on Buttler when RJ is out. We lose on offense, but he bodies up on him well. Matt did about all he can do on Dirk, but unless he is going to hit those 3's, we might as well have Blair in there getting the fouls.

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