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Agreed!
The mere fact that the Lakers get owned in the paint when he is not in the game is all you need to counter the claims he has nothing to offer.
Agreed!
-I never made any racist statements about Pakistanis though..I poked fun at Lakaluva for being ashamed of his roots, but I never made racist statements..try again..Let's see now....
First off I don't own a mobile. Wrong again.
And thank you for admitting that you lie and bull in feeble attempts to portray yourself as some moral saint while defaming others.
And of course, when you you get caught.... it's a bait job.
And low and behold, for someone who has posted ad naseum on Pau's racism because he squinted in a photo he said was making fun, it's suddenly OK to poke fun at the Pakistani people for your own agenda.
By your OWN standards.... You Harlem are a RACIST. And by anyone's standards, you are most definetly a liar.
As for the baiting.... you replied didn't ya?
-I never lie..this was one incident where I was clearly baiting..you're assuming I would lie and neglect the fact that you were obviously going to defend yourself and show proof that the gray Spurs fan attacked you first..as if I didn't realize this would happen..stop reaching, at least wait until I actually slip up and attack me, don't reach like this, even you're better than that(maybe)..
The whole point of bringing up your posts about the gray named Spur fan was to show that you're a racist though..you personally attacked him and his Hispanic roots..this is a fact..you're trying to ignore this and take attention away from your racism by reaching and trying to turn me into some kind of liar for making 1 joke/baiting..this isn't your first racist incident too IIRC..
And yet Pau NEVER made a racist statement either and explained the pic as poking fun just as you have. And yet you have called him a racist numerous times. I never said you or he is a racist. I said... BY YOUR OWN STANDARDS... you are a racist.
And you are.
lie 2 (l)-I never lie..this was one incident where I was clearly baiting..you're assuming I would lie and neglect the fact that you were obviously going to defend yourself and show proof that the gray Spurs fan attacked you first
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1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.
Regardless of your motivation or intention, you lied. There is no reaching there. You stated:
He never once mentioned anything about basketball in our bantar with each other. He did nothing but attack Laker fans. No basketball context in his post at all. It's a bold face lie followed by your "I was so appalled" morality clause to try to defame me. That you are so classless that you cannot admit it changes nothing.
You are a LIAR. It's FACT. That you also claim that you NEVER lie is just further proof that you are indeed a liar.
You are not too bright are you? I was clearly bantaring with gray Spur fan in the context that saying all LA fans are coke sniffing Hollywood wanna be's is like me calling all Spur fans Texas s. Get a grip.
Your double standards are off the charts Harlem. You constantly chastize our players for their moral standards as if you yourself are some saint. You call Pau a racist and when he commented and I argued that it was put out there as a joke you counter with the argument that you just don't joke about such things. Now all of a sudden, when you get caught going against your own ramblings, it's ok to joke about it. Go figure.
Read the posts you idiot. He attacked the Laker fanbase with hater generalizations, I replied that doing so in such a manner is akin to me calling all Spur fans Texas s. He then attacked me personally and I retorted. I never once attacked his Hispanic roots. I have no clue what his roots are. This is just another case of you trying to manipulate the facts to fit your agenda as usual.
So again, by your own standards which you have spewed constantly on this forum, YOU ARE A RACIST.
That you got caught in a bold face lie and excuse it as "baiting" changes nothing about the facts. YOU ARE A LIAR.
You HarlemHeat, by your own standards, are RACIST, and by definition, a LIAR.
It is what it is...
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OK, I will just respectfully disagree. We didn't have him in 08 and got beat down by the Celtics. We had him in our le run so you can't say we didn't need him because we had him. We have him now so you can't say that we don't need him. We didn't have him in game 4 and it was a repeat of the 08 finals when we were totally dominated in the paint. I agree that we don't need him against 90 percent of the league as proven in 08, but its the 10 percent that I'm concerned with. If we can beat all of the league except a couple of teams without Bynum, why even move him? We have time to see if he heals and becomes a good center. The Celtics would destroy a front line of Gasol and Bosh imo.
Lamar started his career with the lakers on the injured list for the first couple of years. He heeled and has not had a serious injury in 2 years. I look for the same thing with Bynum.
As far as beating the Celtics without Bynum, I'm not that confident but with Bynum, I'm very confident.
One more thing before I go. I would consider a Bosh for Odom and filler trade.
Alright on my way to the Playboy Jazz Festival. Have a great Day!
I think Odom & Artest are a package deal and it's understood by the two & Buss. Odom gave up some of his money to Artest in order to bring him to Los Angeles. Unless their is an event of some magnitude I don't see Odom going. And losing this Finals will not be that event.
In that case. Bosh!
Bynum only played in one of those games. Try harder.
Bynum '100 Percent Sure' He'll Play, but How Effective Will He Be?
By Chris Tomasson
Andrew Bynum is "100 percent sure'' his knee injury won't keep him out of Sunday's Game 5 of the NBA Finals. Nobody has a percentage on how effective he might be.
The Lakers center, who has been playing in the postseason on a torn right meniscus, tweaked his knee in Game 3 last Tuesday against Boston and limped through Thursday's Game 4, managing just two points and three rebounds in 12 minutes. Now, Bynum is ready to give it the old college try even if he never did go to college.
"It will depend on how I feel when I get out there for the jump ball,'' Bynum said Saturday about how much he will be able to play in the pivotal Game 5 in which the teams enter tied 2-2. "(If feeling good), I should be able to play a heavy load of minutes. But (not) if I get out there and it buckles and it's crazy.''
Bynum, who said he has scheduled surgery on his knee for early July, had the knee drained after Thursday's 96-89 loss and had an MRI on Friday, with doctors determining he had suffered no additional structural damage. Bynum also had his knee drained at the start of the Finals, but said the swelling returned within a few days.
"I couldn't make a quad muscle,'' Bynum said of the swelling being so bad after Game 4. "It was either not play (Sunday) or just drain it (again).''
Bynum said it also helps that the Lakers have two days off between Games 4 and 5. They had only one day between Games 3 and 4.
"We're still optimistic that he's going to give it a shot and see how he does,'' Lakers coach Phil Jackson said Saturday. "We have a day to work with him. He's had a day of therapy, and he can start getting some movement and maybe start activating himself (Sunday).''
Bynum spoke to his doctor on Friday, and said he was told he should be OK for Game 5 "as long as the swelling doesn't come back like it has been.'' Bynum said he was doing fine Saturday but he hadn't been on the knee much since Game 4.
The 7-foot, 285-pound Bynum said he will have surgery on the knee in the first week of July, although the exact date has not been set. But he's expected to be fully ready by training camp.
"The rehab isn't that bad,'' Bynum said. "Between two and five weeks. (It will be) more in the five-week range because of my size.''
Still, there remain questions whether there's any chance Bynum could do further damage to his knee if he continues to play on it in the Finals. After all, Bynum is just 22, and is expected by many to later this decade be the NBA's second-best center after Orlando's Dwight Howard.
Bynum said he's also been told there's no additional risk on continuing to play. Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak feels confident about allowing Bynum to resume playing.
"There are no guarantees,'' said Kupchak, who suffered a torn left ACL as a player in the early 1980s and said his knee is so bad he eventually will need to have it replaced. "I think we know that anything can happen on a basketball court, but it is our understanding that this is something, providing it doesn't get worse, he can play with until it gets addressed during the offseason ... (Bynum's injury and his July surgery) should not impact training camp next year.''
But Lakers point guard Derek Fisher said he has expressed to Bynum the long-term aspects of his career are more important than anything short-term in these Finals.
"We don't have interest in Andrew doing anything that jeopardizes his future,'' Fisher said. "So there's not any pressure from us to do anything that would further damage his knee and limit his ability to have the great career he'll have for another 10 to 12 years. That would be my biggest message (to Bynum).''
Bynum is intent on making up for the 2008 Finals, when he was out with a knee injury and the Celtics took advantage of it in winning 4-2. Bynum had plenty of frustration watching Thursday as the Boston reserve big man Glen Davis scored 11 of his 18 points in the second half, helped by Bynum not being in the game.
"The layups that (Davis) got could have been altered,'' Bynum said of had he been out there, also saying the Lakers "so to speak, choked,'' in losing a five-point third-quarter lead Thursday.
The 6-foot-9, 289-pound Davis didn't agree Bynum would have made a noticeable difference against him, saying, "I still would have done what I'd done.'' But Boston center Kendrick Perkins doesn't deny his team has an advantage if Bynum continues to be noticeably limited.
"He brings shot blocking,'' Perkins said. "He makes them long, and they're not as long when he's in there. And with Lamar (Odom) at the four and (Pau) Gasol at the five, they kind of got like a small lineup a little bit. So it's to our advantage a little bit.''
It's hard to complain about the job done by the 7-foot Gasol, the starting power forward who slides to center when Bynum is out. He's averaging 20.5 points and 9.5 rebounds in the series.
Odom, a 6-10 power forward, has been another story. He's been mostly paranormal in the Finals, averaging 7.5 points and 5.3 rebounds.
"It's too late to even worry about that,'' the low-key Odom said of his slow start while not offering any particular declaration he will step it up.
Bynum, though, is hoping he will feel good enough to make a difference in Game 5. Despite still being very young, he doesn't mind all the focus on him and his knee.
"I embrace it,'' Bynum said. "I know what I need to do out on the court and I just want to go out there and be effective. If I do that, if I give us some good minutes out there, we'll just have a great shot of winning the game.''
But Bynum couldn't give a "100 percent'' guarantee that he will be effective Sunday.
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